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kpete

(72,024 posts)
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 12:51 PM Apr 21

NYT scoop: "David Pecker...is set to go first" as prosecution witness.

NYT scoop: "David Pecker...is set to go first" as prosecution witness. ⬇️

Pecker could be key witness - in ways more devastating than Michael Cohen.

This also indicates DA is foregrounding unlawful election influence for jurors.




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NYT scoop: "David Pecker...is set to go first" as prosecution witness. (Original Post) kpete Apr 21 OP
I suspect if he lies under oath, the DA will go after him agingdem Apr 21 #1
Why at this point would he perjure himself? brooklynite Apr 21 #8
Why did Allen Weisselberg lie under oath?... agingdem Apr 21 #9
And Pecker saw the consequences of that. brooklynite Apr 21 #10
More than that InstantGratification Apr 21 #45
Pecker Jilly_in_VA Apr 21 #2
Will he rise to the occasion? Sneederbunk Apr 21 #22
Or just be a wimp like his 'shroomy friend? erronis Apr 21 #23
Pecker covering for a pecker because of who one's pecker pecked. MiHale Apr 21 #26
We couldn't make this stuff up! calimary Apr 21 #32
👍 MiHale Apr 21 #47
K&R for, how about all his treasure trove of killed stories! UTUSN Apr 21 #3
I can see where this testimony will make it loud and clear the reason for the... Hugin Apr 21 #5
Exactly. And it won't be Cohen saying it first. onecaliberal Apr 21 #35
And thank you Ronan Farrow Pinback Apr 21 #18
Agree! Ronan really got on the story and carried it. erronis Apr 21 #24
If he tells everything he knows it will be more devastating than Cohen. CrispyQ Apr 21 #4
Oh yeah PatSeg Apr 21 #19
So it is going to be chronological order. Irish_Dem Apr 21 #6
Telling the Karen McDougal story as precedent? What is the "foregrounding..." part about? underpants Apr 21 #12
She came forward in 2016. She wanted people to know, they paid her off too. onecaliberal Apr 21 #36
Wow, this trial hasn't even started and already so many opportunities for juvenile toilet humor. sop Apr 21 #7
Yes it's a target rich environment underpants Apr 21 #13
Fair criticism but, Disaffected Apr 21 #28
And so it begins... sop Apr 21 #29
Yes, it does. Disaffected Apr 21 #44
And don't forget the pecker jokes! calimary Apr 21 #33
t'ain't gonna be much distance between Pecker and Asshole next week underpants Apr 21 #42
Good one! calimary Apr 21 #60
RSO rso Apr 21 #11
Will Donnie turn up his gas dispenser to 11 in response to Pecker"s testimony? Ping Tung Apr 21 #14
Definitely looking forward to Pecker's testimony. It will be very damaging, all of Trump's sleazy behavior emulatorloo Apr 21 #15
This is 7th grade, locker room humor. It's as juvenile as the stuff when Rudi farted during his 3Hotdogs Apr 21 #16
Whoa, this should be interesting! PatSeg Apr 21 #17
So Pecker orangecrush Apr 21 #20
So when does TSF tweet about him and violate the gag order yet again? (I won't call his posts 'truths' cuz they ain't) Maeve Apr 21 #21
I suspect grandpa won't be snoozing tomorrow. Demobrat Apr 21 #25
I think pecker is really gonna stick it to Donnie. It will be painful and hard to take it all in. unblock Apr 21 #27
It's the FIRST narrative and facts on Trump's motive that win the jury, ancianita Apr 21 #30
Expect stiff resistance from the Defense Table. NBachers Apr 21 #31
OMG how I LOVE this thread!!! calimary Apr 21 #34
I assume Pecker isn't "cooperating" JoseBalow Apr 21 #37
Straight to Pecker - no foreplay lame54 Apr 21 #38
And Rachel Maddow Deep State Witch Apr 21 #39
I thought defense was told not to say Tree Lady Apr 21 #40
No one, but especially not the defense, is supposed to publicly naming the witnwsses soldierant Apr 21 #59
Remember, Mr. Pecker flipped on his old friend Donald. blogslug Apr 21 #41
Some of the tighty whitey decorum police are at it again here on DU. NoMoreRepugs Apr 21 #43
I quit watching The Apprentice when Carolyn left. Backseat Driver Apr 21 #46
One of my all-time favorite headlines..... Happy Hoosier Apr 21 #48
I can't wait for the judge to rubber-stamp "GUILTY!" NBachers Apr 21 #49
Who leaked? WarGamer Apr 21 #50
Maybe nobody! Who is this joker anyway? getagrip_already Apr 21 #52
so, in tv attorney fashion, is this an attempt to indicate motive for the crime? Model35mech Apr 21 #51
No, the crime has two components.... getagrip_already Apr 21 #53
Thanks. I really needed to get onto the correct track Model35mech Apr 21 #54
I actually didn't get that from the linked article... Mr.WeRP Apr 21 #55
Warning: The double entendre generator is showing signs of overheating. nt Buns_of_Fire Apr 21 #56
I thought this was supposed to be a secret? ecstatic Apr 21 #57
That Pecker is really going to give it to that Asshole. DontBelieveEastisEas Apr 21 #58
My own last name is the 4 letters that come after... 3catwoman3 Apr 21 #61
45. More than that
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 03:56 PM
Apr 21

Yes perjury charges could be on the table, but that is not the most serious consequence. He has a deal for immunity in exchange for his testimony. If he is found to be lying or holds back information, the immunity deal can be revoked and he could find himself a defendant instead of witness.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,008 posts)
2. Pecker
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 12:58 PM
Apr 21

could hardly be a more appropriate name for the guy. He's not only a distasteful person, he's a real dick.

calimary

(81,523 posts)
32. We couldn't make this stuff up!
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 02:56 PM
Apr 21

I think it’s SOOOOOOOOO beautiful that a guy name Pecker is standing up for the donald.

UTUSN

(70,755 posts)
3. K&R for, how about all his treasure trove of killed stories!
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:04 PM
Apr 21

Apart from this case, holy Mark BURNETT and spouse are sitting on Apprentice files.

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
5. I can see where this testimony will make it loud and clear the reason for the...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:10 PM
Apr 21

“catch and kill” of these stories was election interference and I guarantee it wasn’t to spare Mellie’s feelies, because, Trump could give a shit less about those.

CrispyQ

(36,533 posts)
4. If he tells everything he knows it will be more devastating than Cohen.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:05 PM
Apr 21

Trump thought last week was bad.

PatSeg

(47,625 posts)
19. Oh yeah
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 02:26 PM
Apr 21

I don't think Pecker is going to lie for Donald. He's not worth risking perjury.

Poor, poor Donald.

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
6. So it is going to be chronological order.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:14 PM
Apr 21

Going back to the very beginning of how the obstruction occurred,
the beginning and back story to the crimes.

underpants

(182,925 posts)
12. Telling the Karen McDougal story as precedent? What is the "foregrounding..." part about?
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:41 PM
Apr 21

McDougal was with Trump 2006-2007

sop

(10,274 posts)
7. Wow, this trial hasn't even started and already so many opportunities for juvenile toilet humor.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:18 PM
Apr 21

So far we've had a ton of fart jokes, now it'll be pecker jokes. And when Stormy Daniels gets up on the stand we'll be making jokes about spankings using a rolled-up Forbes magazine with Trump and two of his children on the cover, and mushroom-shaped dicks. It's like the courtroom's being run by a bunch of twelve-year-olds.

emulatorloo

(44,192 posts)
15. Definitely looking forward to Pecker's testimony. It will be very damaging, all of Trump's sleazy behavior
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:52 PM
Apr 21

on display.

3Hotdogs

(12,435 posts)
16. This is 7th grade, locker room humor. It's as juvenile as the stuff when Rudi farted during his
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 02:21 PM
Apr 21

congressional testimony.

I'm embarrassed to be a part of D.U.

Carry on.

Maeve

(42,290 posts)
21. So when does TSF tweet about him and violate the gag order yet again? (I won't call his posts 'truths' cuz they ain't)
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 02:32 PM
Apr 21

ancianita

(36,146 posts)
30. It's the FIRST narrative and facts on Trump's motive that win the jury,
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 02:52 PM
Apr 21

over any defense version of Trump's motive.

Pecker is as important, if not more important, than Cohen in laying out the actual reason for trump using Cohen as cover for the money trail, and Weisselberg as cover for the bookkeeping cheating -- all for blocking public voter knowledge of more than one affair while married.
Daniels, later, will explain all the sordid reasons why the prosecution is right.

It's First points that frame the rest -- a major psychology rule of winning argument and debate
-- and that first narrative of the facts will be the filter through which the jury 'impartially' hears the defense and cross examinations.

soldierant

(6,937 posts)
59. No one, but especially not the defense, is supposed to publicly naming the witnwsses
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 07:45 PM
Apr 21

or the members of the jury. By the rukes of Discovery, the prosecution is rewuired to notify the defense of the witnesses (so they can make plans for cross-examination.)

However, Judge Merchan has indicated that the first witnesses are a test. If the names get out, no more prior notice to defense. I don't know whether Pecker is included in that - since he is a public figure he may not be.

blogslug

(38,019 posts)
41. Remember, Mr. Pecker flipped on his old friend Donald.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 03:30 PM
Apr 21
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/donald-trump-national-enquirer-allies-defect-david-pecker-michael-cohen

archive link: https://archive.ph/7pky1

Trump is – or had been – close pals with AMI chief David Pecker, who’d pushed Trump for years to run for the White House, and then used the Enquirer to promote his candidacy.

To avoid being charged with campaign-law violations, Pecker flipped three months ago and began cooperating with the feds. He corroborated detailed information offered by former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, now bound for prison.

According to the “non-prosecution” agreement signed by AMI, Pecker met with Cohen “and at least one other member of the [Trump] campaign” in August 2015.


According to multiple news sources, that other person in the room was the candidate himself...


NoMoreRepugs

(9,475 posts)
43. Some of the tighty whitey decorum police are at it again here on DU.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 03:39 PM
Apr 21

If you find it offensive or below you try to ignore it versus letting it rankle you is my suggestion.

Backseat Driver

(4,399 posts)
46. I quit watching The Apprentice when Carolyn left.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 04:17 PM
Apr 21

She seemed smart and savy and a fair judge of the challenged teams. I recall her leaving was controversial. How has she managed few, if any, comments for or against THAT organization in the MSM and/or by a myriad of attorneys, from back in the day before Ivanka, et al, took over her spot?

WarGamer

(12,485 posts)
50. Who leaked?
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:06 PM
Apr 21

AG office said they weren't telling Trump until Sunday...

So WHO leaked? Judge was pretty concerned about a leak.

getagrip_already

(14,864 posts)
52. Maybe nobody! Who is this joker anyway?
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:13 PM
Apr 21

How does he know? Does he know?

Or is this just another lie flosted to the media?

Model35mech

(1,561 posts)
51. so, in tv attorney fashion, is this an attempt to indicate motive for the crime?
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:07 PM
Apr 21

I'm not a professional court watcher, even as a couch bound legal commentator.

The crime is supposed to be lying about his business records. I'm assuming the records will demonstrate a twisted explanation of how the money was spent.

I have the feeling Trump -never- has told the whole truth in the records of his businesses. Beyond the lying accounting, must the prosecutor demonstrate how this example demands indictment and conviction above all the others?

getagrip_already

(14,864 posts)
53. No, the crime has two components....
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:19 PM
Apr 21

One is fraud. That is lying about the source and destination of funds.

The other is election interference. That is the crime that elevates the first crime from a misdemeanor to a felony. To do that, they need to demonstrate that he likely committed the second crime in furtherance of the first, even though they aren't charging him with it.

So they need to build a case showing his history of affairs, of catch and kill, and why he paid off stormy when and how he did.

It's all related. But they have to tell the whole story as one big sordid story book.

It isn't just a simple fraud case.

Model35mech

(1,561 posts)
54. Thanks. I really needed to get onto the correct track
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:23 PM
Apr 21

to be able understand the significant presented when it turns into newsbytes on the tv.

Mr.WeRP

(96 posts)
55. I actually didn't get that from the linked article...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 05:42 PM
Apr 21

If it is true, the press is doing a disservice to justice by publishing that. It makes sense that Pecker is the first as the story somewhat starts with him.

3catwoman3

(24,055 posts)
61. My own last name is the 4 letters that come after...
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 08:33 PM
Apr 21

...soccer-, base-, tennis-, foot-, etc. It was bad enough growing up.

I'm very glad my last name is not Pecker. I'll bet the journalists are tired of saying it.

A good friend of mine while I was in the Air Force had the most unfortunate last name of Penix.

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