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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:30 PM Jan 2012

My review of "Iron Lady" from a political as well as artistic viewpoint.

I confess at the outset that I haven't been a student of Margaret Thatcher's politics, except to generally (as a liberal) to be in opposition of them.

However, I saw "The Iron Lady" today and I have learned a dimension about her I did not have before.

Let me explain. Meryl Streep gives the greatest acting of her life so far in this film, IMO. She is magnificent. Yes,she has the look, the slightly gap-toothed overbite, but also so mannerism and walk of the elderly woman she has become and whose existence she is living out (even as we speak), with great insight and tenderness. This is Streep's ultimate performance, IMO. She is superb. She portrays a woman whose present existence is not something any of us would want, a constant going back and forth from reality and delusion (if not outright hallucination).

That said, she is portrayed (in flashback from her present, dementia-dogged existence) in her feisty, most full throated conservative best. She wins because she believes with whole heart that you have to act, not just feel, you have to have a thoughtful roadmap of where you are going and what you are going to do. She succeeds because of her willingness to go all out, with a "can do" and not a defeatist dogma. And though I can and do question the validity of those beliefs, they are presented here as honest ones (as she sees public service).

The film takes us (through flashback) through her several campaigns and the issues that beset her. Here is presented the interesting idea that the poor should pay taxes as well as the better off, which was an idea badly presented by Michele Bachman in her campaign, but tidily wrapped up by Thatcher. Who knew is was hers first? The audience is left to decide the justice of such a regressive policy, but the resulting footage of outrage and violence in the street is vividly presented also.

The film's climax is her scene, later in her political career, with her cabinet, where she totally loses it and starts going over the edge with her rhetoric and descends into meanness and vindictiveness with one of her heretofore strong supporters on her cabinet (humiliating him to the point where he resigns). Former political allies in her own party united to defeat her. You see her go into a rant which becomes a complete character attack, full of spite and pettiness. No wonder her party decided it was time for her to go.

What is so great about Streep is her ability to portray this woman in her dotage as a complex, interesting human being. Streep does what every great actor does: she makes you care about her character. You are deeply involved in her character's fate.

I must add that I loved the scene with Al Haig where she gives him all kinds of sh*t about his complaint of the the Falklands war. Not a defense of him, just the way she took him down, because I never could stand Al Haig!

"Iron Lady" is movie gold but also a really interesting revisiting of the Thatcher era. Go to see it. The acting, script and directing is so impressive you will love it.



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Tikki

(14,557 posts)
5. I am sorry and thanks for the review...We had an experience...
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:53 PM
Jan 2012

during the thatcher years with many young brit men who
came to the So Cal coastal cities to get away from
what maggie had brought upon that Country.

In the movie, if they didn't touch upon the despair and fear that young ones
faced in the UK at that time, well then..

Our friends brought a lot of fun ideas with them here and lots
of great slang.


The Tikkis

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. You should see the movie. It does not spare the footage of outrage in the cities among the
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 09:02 PM
Jan 2012

populace over her ideas!

I don't mean to portray her as entirely sympathetic. Politically, the movie does not spare her. So you won't be disappointed in that regard.

It is Streep's personification of Thatcher that is the core of the artistry of this movie, quite apart from the politics. You have to be able to separate the two when you are watching it. In Streep's hands, Thatcher is somebody else, someone we see as a person who could be "us" in our dotage. She is utterly human and her being is so well developed that you immediately respond to her presence on the screen in a very human way.

I put the political in a separate category when I discuss this movie. It is also an artistic triumph for Streep and for the director (also a woman). This is a work of art that is incredibly impressive.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
4. Good art is, unlike propaganda, for its own sake, no matter what.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:45 PM
Jan 2012

Loved your review. Maggie is a blight on the 20th Century, but an interesting character, anyway.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
8. If anyone is a goddess, it is Meryl...I am convinced of that!
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 09:07 PM
Jan 2012

If she doesn't get an Oscar for this then something is seriously wrong with the whole Oscar thing.
And the director. What a job that was!

I find it interesting that the director is also a woman...

niyad

(113,370 posts)
11. she did receive a golden globe. we shall have to see how bright the members of the academy are.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 09:57 PM
Jan 2012
 

Remember Me

(1,532 posts)
9. I think she's quite possibly the best actress
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 09:39 PM
Jan 2012

of all time so far.

Even if I don't always like her, the roles she chooses, or her performance. I just have to admit they are ALWAYS stunning.

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
10. Streep is my favorite actor!
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 09:52 PM
Jan 2012

We weren't sure if we were going to see it as we hadn't read any raving reviews. However, I think we may have to reconsider.

UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
12. R#7 & K for great review, but probably will just stick to my "general liberal opposition" & not see
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 10:12 PM
Jan 2012

it and probably whenever I do see it years hence will criticize myself for not doing it.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
16. Ouch. The Thatcher and Reagan era of hopelessness and despair.
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 12:26 PM
Jan 2012

I totally love Meryl Streep, she is a phenomenal master artist, and I would love to see her work in this film. Thanks for your eloquent review.

But, honestly, from my perspective as a lifetime progressive activist, I already know that I will not be able to stomach revisiting the awful nightmare of the hopelessness and despair of that era. It was like some insidious propaganda kicked in all at once, and numbed the hearts and minds of most of the western world.

Conservatives took it upon themselves to use wealth, deceit, and corruption to make a concerted sociopathic effort to retard collective human kindness and compassion, evolution and progress, environmental sanity, and basically every endeavor rooted in sincere human decency.

They succeeded. We would be light years ahead of where we are now in terms of truly human progress if it were not for conservatives taking love and squeezing it until it bled in their greedy fascist fists.

Just thinking about it makes me sad, and actually slightly nauseous. I hope the film does not glorify this era in any way.

In 1980, humanity came to a fork in the road, and chose the path to a dead end.


We are just now, 30+ years later, beginning to find the way home again.

Occupy.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
17. Thanks for the review
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 01:32 PM
Jan 2012

Streep is a great actress but there no way I ever pay for conservative crap, even fictionalized stuff like this move. So I won't be seeing this one.
here's Elvis Costello's "Tramp the Dirt Down".


CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
18. I can't blame you but the movie doesn't really pretty her up!
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:42 PM
Jan 2012

We see some outcomes of her policies that are not so good.

The film also brought something out I didn't know: among her massive budget cuts was taking the British navy out of the south Atlantic and thus giving the Falklands the idea that Great Britain was no longer interested in ruling that colony. So Maggie got that war and the subsequent deaths of British soldiers due to her own actions.

She is also shown pretty much blowing up her own country. There are many, many instances shown in the film that relate directly to her mismanagement. And when she is shown literally coming apart with her cabinet officers, it is not pretty but godawful. This is what comes of hubris.

I think the film can be viewed as instructive as to the use of power for destructive ends. It doesn't let her off the hook. Quite the contrary...

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