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LONDON -- Two military horses that bolted and ran miles through the streets of London after being spooked by construction noise and tossing their riders were in serious condition after undergoing operations, a U.K. government official said Thursday.
The animals were among a group of four horses that broke free during routine exercises Wednesday near Buckingham Palace and caused chaos as they galloped loose through central London during morning rush hour. A fifth horse that tried to bolt hadn't been able to break free.
Two of the horses underwent operations and one was transferred to an equine hospital, the British Army posted on X.
Three of them are fine, two of them are unfortunately in a relatively serious condition and obviously we will be monitoring that condition, defense minister James Cartlidge told Sky News. They are in a serious condition, but as I understand, still alive.
Three soldiers thrown from their steeds were hospitalized with injuries, but were expected to fully recover and return to duty.
The loose horses from the Household Cavalry, the ceremonial guard of the monarch and a feature of state functions in London, were named as Vida, Quaker, Trojan and Tennyson.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/2-military-horses-broke-free-ran-loose-london-109615585
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Using horses for "ceremonial" purposes is not valid!
Especially when you cannot keep them safe!
Stop using horses for human vanity!!!
Johnny2X2X
(19,118 posts)These beautiful animals don't exist merely for human pleasure. This activity puts them in danger, it's not the first time either.
Emile
(22,937 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,143 posts)Even the most docile, well-trained, desensitized horse will have a moment every now and again.
hlthe2b
(102,378 posts)what the monarchy does routinely (and I'm NOT suggesting they do not try to anticipate and provide excellent care to these horses--just that they may need to move the risk-benefit toward procedures that avoid such unexpected--but those which can be anticipated--exposures). That can include moving or retiming/rescheduling the event/venue and as I stated prior... horses CAN be desensitized to noise, crowd, and technological factors. Having had some professional interactions with those who oversee/train/care for the Budweiser Clydesdales, I can assure you that there is evidence that these measures can help.
mopinko
(70,235 posts)if a horse doesnt want to pull a carriage, it wont. u can train it, using threats or bribes, but in the end, they serve us at their own pleasure, not ours.
hlthe2b
(102,378 posts)startling events and incidents that can result in unsafe reactions. THAT CAN be addressed. As I stated, I got to learn firsthand how it is done (from birth) with the Clydesdales--which is an extension of that used for the highest-level equestrian competitive driving events--dating back from ancient times but updated to our much more technologically chaotic times. It likewise involves assessing the temperament and suitability for these horses.
my eldest drove a carriage in downtown chgo for a couple yrs.
she got so tired of ppl crying that she was abusing the horses. they were all amish washouts. too placid for the pace the farmers kept. had. a much cushier life than they were raised for. they usually were fine, but every now and then 1 wd freak out. she was working the day 1 walked up the front of a car, and got half the carriage up there, too. same thing- jackhammers.
she loved it, but such shit pay. so much unpaid labor. they took care of the horses and had to buy their own tack. everyone wd say- oh wait til valentines day. then every nag that walked and every carriage that rolled was out, so they got no more rides that a nice summer saturday.
it was girls w horse crushes and polish guys who had been farmers back home.
EndlessWire
(6,569 posts)I saw a YouTube video showing the aftercare of these horses post parade. I was so impressed! Each one had their own team of handlers and they were treated like Gods. All horses should be treated like that.
I have long watched YouTube videos of the mounted guards, and have always thought that their horses are well treated. The mounted guards will certainly scream at you if you touch the horses in some wrong way. They are protective of both the public as well as their mounts.
The other thing I look at is when some farm horse allows a cat to climb aboard and take a ride. If the horse didn't like that, they wouldn't move over so the cat could get on. They have a choice. They form relationships and mutual enjoyment.
It is very unfortunate that this accident occurred. It was not the fault of the riders, nor the horses. All animals need mental stimulation and action. No doubt that activity was enjoyable until the accident happened.
Sky Jewels
(7,143 posts)Horses have a very strong fright/flight instinct. When I was a kid/teen, I was obsessed with horses. I had a sweet but spooky horse and survived a few major incidents (spooked lunges, almost into traffic; bucked off; run away with, etc.) I finally realized I was playing with fire and gave up riding. As an adult, I began to see things entirely from the horses' point of view --- the years of confinement and boredom, the uncomfortable bits in the mouths (that inexperienced riders yank on), the saddles strapped tightly around their bellies, the jumps that are too high, the humans commanding them where to go and when and how fast. It's all very distasteful to me now. I strongly believe rodeo and horse racing and Central Park carriage rides other exploitative events should be outlawed. And, yes, fuck pomp and circumstance and don't make horses live in the middle of a huge city.
Butterflylady
(3,549 posts)My only concern is what will happen if they can't be helped. Is there a place for retired horses to live out their life?
TheBlackAdder
(28,220 posts)You know, things like gunfire and artillery shell noises.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)and it happened right behind the group. It was a loud and prolonged noise and that is what was unusual for these animals and that's what spooked them. They were on a regular exercise walk that contributes to their training and helps them get used to the sounds of the city. It happens all the time.
The spokesperson in the video below is a Jeanette Allen. She states that incidents like this are so extraordinarily rare that no Londoner could possibly recall it ever happening before.
She is Chief Executive of the "Horse Trust" a charity that looks after retired horses from the various guards. Her interview starts at the 3:00 mark.
Caution, this video does have footage of the bloodied horse running through the streets of the city.