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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIF SCOTUS declares Trump king, if we - as a nation - do not take to the streets in a general strike
Then we deserve him.
Unbelievable!!!!!
What world am I living in!?!?!?
Irish_Dem
(47,436 posts)They want to try a fascist dictator/king as ruler.
They will have a steep learning curve.
peppertree
(21,672 posts)And now, amid 300% inflation and a deep depression, democracy doesn't sound so bad anymore.
Irish_Dem
(47,436 posts)Selling autocracy across the globe. Weakening democracies.
Which must happen for the autocrats to rise to superpower status.
peppertree
(21,672 posts)Which, sadly, has a long and sordid history down there.
And the main reason they can't seem to leave it behind (and despite disastrous results)? Because their own elites - and their media mouthpieces - still support it!
Not unlike the radicalized rut our GOP has gotten into: because their big donors like it too.
Irish_Dem
(47,436 posts)The US GOP/oligarchs are all too willing because they want what the autocrats have,
permanent power and access to all financial assets.
peppertree
(21,672 posts)And as you know, they no longer try to veil or couch it.
What's more - they've brainwashed their mouth-breathers into howling for autocracy, day in and day out.
"Cause it'll own the libs!"
Irish_Dem
(47,436 posts)The MAGAs align with Russia too.
They like the idea of a dictatorship.
we going to stop this madness??????? We all need to vote.
We won't have any rights or freedom or laws we see that now???? Do we want to be like Russia, or China....etc.? Just venting.
Irish_Dem
(47,436 posts)But it appears many do not.
That is why I said if Trump is in the WH again, there will be a steep leaning curve for many Americans.
They take so much for granted and it will be lost.
Yep we have to vote and then see what happens.
If they declare Trump a kind, Biden is in the chair right now making HIM king.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)And the republicans will figure a way to to give the election to Trump and immediately after rule that a president has immunity.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,657 posts)I dont know why people think this court is going grant Trump blanket immunity rather than just help him delay his trial.
BlueKota
(1,785 posts)be trusted to stand for the law or the people, they stand for Trump and their rich donors.
Frankly I am tired of hearing "he won't," or "they won't." We were told, "he won't win in 2016." He won. We were told he was joking about wanting to become a dictator. Then came the fake elector scheme, and January 6. Then we heard the SC will uphold the DC Circuit Court and not even agree to hear the immunity case
Guess what they did.
It really is like Charlie Brown and the football. He keeps trusting Lucy not to pull it away right before he kicks it, and yet she does it every fucking time, yet Charlie keeps falling for it.
If we want to avoid the future white male supremacist government the Republicans are openly calling for Democrats have to quit being Charlie Brown and beat the Magats at their own game. I don't watch football but I have heard it said, there is a time when you have to quit playing defense and start playing offense. It may already be too late, but right now I feel like we're lambs being led to the slaughter and we have too many shepherds trusting the wolves to eat the lambs.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,657 posts)Because Biden could order Seal Team Six to slaughter all of them without consequence.
He could order the assassinations, pardon Seal Team Six, pardon himself, resign, and let President Harris appoint six new justices.
Thats why they arent going to grant Trump blanket immunity.
Theyre going to fuck around and give Trump more options to delay his trial, but they arent going to give him immunity.
BlueKota
(1,785 posts)being too honorable to his oath to the Constitution to break it, and committed to his religion to do that.
I really wish, however, that one of the liberal justices would have asked them about whether based on the comments they were making does that mean President Biden should take that as their permission to do whatever he wants now with full immunity?
At the very least that might have put them on the spot, and their answers could have totally exposed them as the hypocritical asses they really are.
Turbineguy
(37,370 posts)A number of Tzars were assassinated.
mucifer
(23,569 posts)DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,926 posts)Regardless of what's going on government wise. As long as the power stays on, foods available, and the internet/tv shows keep on going on then everything is fine. If they aren't personally inconvenienced then they will just keep on as if nothing is happening.
bdamomma
(63,923 posts)that will be censored, with many other things. You think we will have access to sites like DU???? No way.
Wednesdays
(17,412 posts)and Fox News on TV, so to them all is well.
sillylittleworm
(4 posts)Look at past ones. It's not as easy as calling for one. Are you organizing in your own community?
marble falls
(57,246 posts)johnnyfins
(830 posts)TSF king, they know the USA is OVER. If they take that step, they have to realize that they, at some point will be in the king's crosshairs.
ZonkerHarris
(24,256 posts)Kaleva
(36,352 posts)ecstatic
(32,733 posts)At a certain point, we have to say no.
B.See
(1,292 posts)Bizarro World.
NanaCat
(1,251 posts)Does nothing to change anything. Hasn't for decades now.
We'll be in a very different place that will require new thinking, new tactics, and new strategy, and not the same old boring, failed antics of yesteryear.
But if you want martial law declared and to be mowed down in the streets, well, that can be the hill you die on. The rest of us will find more effective ways to get things done.
JohnSJ
(92,411 posts)the ballot Democratic will
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)in this scenario.
I will say that just seriously having this conversation is a strong indicator that those against reforming the court are hopelessly hidebound, batshit crazy, or with the facsists.
We have to win elections and then be very aggressive in securing the Republic.
No more paddy cake.