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Swede

(33,302 posts)
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 01:31 PM Apr 27

Adam Kinzinger on Kristi Noem.

When she came in she stood above most, measured and humble, open with her faith, close to family. At one point she even said she was doing less TV, because she wanted to be more serious.
Trump broke her. I am still amazed that the same Noem I knew has become what she has, “own the libs” “shoot my dog” “hang with Lewandowski” etc. never imagined this to be honest, and goes to show how good people get destroyed by fame and MAGA.



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Escurumbele

(3,407 posts)
18. I think you are correct. She put up an act to make people think she was not what she really is, which brings a point.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 04:02 PM
Apr 27

If people put up an act to make other people think they are not the evil disgusting human beings they are, they know they are a piece of crap, which is the reason why they need to pretend to be something else, and they are OK with that.

"I am a piece of crap, but I have to pretend I am a nice person, then later I can be my evil self, when the time is right."

How disgusting!

Wingus Dingus

(8,059 posts)
4. Sarah Palin was considered a serious and competent person in 2006.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 01:49 PM
Apr 27

They don't change, they're just revealed as frauds and jackasses, eventually.

Warpy

(111,410 posts)
5. "How you gonna keep 'em down on the farm/ Once they've see Paree?"
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 01:58 PM
Apr 27

That old WWI song still rings true. The truth is that she grew up in farming country, went to shitty rural schools, and took her education from itinerant preachers. It shows rather badly. I dobn't think she's an especially stupid woman, but she is prfoundly ignorant.

I disagree with Kinzinger on this one, I think she was always broken.

What TFG did was widen her horizons, giving her a taste of champagne instead of the chamoagne of beers. She attached all that glitz to the man instead of to finishing her term, getting on a plane, getting the fuck out of SD and getting a job as a farm lobbyist.

Maybe she'll do just that and the dazzle will be gone, especially as TFG continues to deflate as he sits in one courtroom after another.

She's not broken, she is what she always was and eventually she'll notice TFG is a demented old stoat and she'll ditch him.

erronis

(15,404 posts)
10. "I don't think she's an especially stupid woman, but she is profoundly ignorant."
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 03:00 PM
Apr 27

Great statements.

What TFG did was widen her horizons, giving her a taste of champagne instead of the chamoagne of beers

PatSeg

(47,695 posts)
16. In a sense she is similar to Sarah Palin
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 03:55 PM
Apr 27

who changed dramatically once she was exposed to a bigger world and became the center of attention for awhile. Obviously, it brought out parts of her that already existed and she became addicted to the attention.

patphil

(6,236 posts)
6. Sometimes what's behind the mask is really ugly.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 02:06 PM
Apr 27

Trump, by dropping his own mask, gave people permission to drop theirs, and revel in their ugliness.
Now ugly is status quo for mainstream Republicans.

yardwork

(61,741 posts)
7. As a Republican Kinzinger still buys into the false American myths.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 02:12 PM
Apr 27

The false myths are that America was built by strong, independent white Christian men who did it all by themselves, guided by their faith in God. The false myths are that strong, rugged individuals have to make difficult choices to keep their families safe, but they're always guided by decency and Christian values.

The truth about the U.S. is that Europeans wandered ashore seeking wealth and power, inadvertently bringing diseases that wiped out most of the original inhabitants, making it pretty easy to "conquer" the land. Then these lucky people relied on the labor of slaves and less powerful immigrants to "build" the country. Rounding out this shameful history, we made up heroic myths to cover up the truth, lying to ourselves by creating ridiculous fairy tales.

Noem is a victim of these myths, just as Kinzinger and rest of us are.

MontanaMama

(23,365 posts)
8. She willingly went along.
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 02:45 PM
Apr 27

I will not absolve her from responsibility. Noem is one of many psychopaths we're being subjected to right now.

erronis

(15,404 posts)
11. From Betty Bowers:
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 03:02 PM
Apr 27
I'm sorry, but if you repeatedly lie, shoot a puppy in the face, and cheat on your spouse with Cory Lewandowski, you were *never* a good person.

You were just better at concealing how bad a person you are.

kingvitamin

(24 posts)
13. No excuses!
Sat Apr 27, 2024, 03:10 PM
Apr 27

Trump couldn't have broken Noem, unless Noem was willing to be broken. She had a choice just like you Mr. Kinzinger.

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