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Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
Sat May 4, 2024, 02:55 PM May 2024

What if Trump passes on before the election?

It might be due to any natural cause: A heart attack; A stroke; A lightening bolt; Choking on a cheeseburger; -- Hell, the possibilities are endless.

But if any of this happens, the wingnut response is totally predictable:

"HE WAS ASSASSINATED!" And he will become an instant martyr.

Marjory Taylor Greene will shriek that, "They used Jewish space lasers."

Putin will find "secret information" that McDonald's poisoned him.

FOX "news": "His murder by Dems was the only way he could lose.'

The NY Times will waffle: "Either side may have been involved."

So who will then become the Republican presidential nominee?

Donald Trump Jr. will claim he's the natural successor.

Nikki Haley will state she was "The last one standing."

And every Republican in the country will insist that they are "The One."

Seems that TSF's possible end could cause more chaos than his presence.

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What if Trump passes on before the election? (Original Post) Cyrano May 2024 OP
I have a suspicious feeling illness is in his near future... FarPoint May 2024 #1
Please just let him meet with his demise,... magicarpet May 2024 #2
Interesting possibility Vogon_Glory May 2024 #5
Somehow we can deal (let's contain our glee out of respect for his former office). NO ARLINGTON BURIAL! dutch777 May 2024 #33
Yes Cosmocat May 2024 #46
Plant him on Conjuay May 2024 #53
Came hear to say this Captain Zero May 2024 #88
I would cry NJCher May 2024 #56
After I cried NJCher May 2024 #57
Exactly MFM008 May 2024 #44
Probably won't happen this year Tree Lady May 2024 #3
Rachel showed a clip of him 8 years ago NJCher May 2024 #59
They will find me drunk and passed out Ocelot II May 2024 #4
You and me both NotASurfer May 2024 #13
Me too and I rarely drink SallyHemmings May 2024 #22
Lol MFM008 May 2024 #45
Heh. betsuni May 2024 #48
Well if all bdamomma May 2024 #54
Yeah right budkin May 2024 #6
Posts like the OP's will be posted newdayneeded May 2024 #9
So he's 78 NJCher May 2024 #61
Why not? Polybius May 2024 #66
his father had Alzheimer's NJCher May 2024 #68
He certainly could have Alzheimer's, but sleeping in court isn't proof Polybius May 2024 #69
so you concede that he could have Alzheimer's NJCher May 2024 #73
I keep saying to my wife that evil lives forever while the good die young neverforget May 2024 #24
There's a reason for that. NJCher May 2024 #62
Mass celebrations in the streets liberalmediaaddict May 2024 #7
Not so sure about that. Cyrano May 2024 #11
They can blame me CanonRay May 2024 #8
Does Trump have EndlessWire May 2024 #10
My friends and I will have the happiest of celebrations. niyad May 2024 #12
My answer too. FalloutShelter May 2024 #17
It will be like NJCher May 2024 #63
It would be especially awesome if he took the GOP to hell with him Blue Owl May 2024 #14
I can see it now NJCher May 2024 #64
The title of this post gave me a stiffy. IjustDontlikeRepugs May 2024 #15
I will be down one very good bottle of bubbles..... bahboo May 2024 #16
1st thing would be bluestarone May 2024 #18
I had omitted to consider the effect upon the ketchup supply chain... GopherGal May 2024 #27
The "bottom" will drop Conjuay May 2024 #55
In the spirit of ultimate Democratic kindness, please vote BLUE and bite your tongue! Backseat Driver May 2024 #19
Dancing in the streets!!! spanone May 2024 #20
So who will then become the Republican presidential nominee? DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #21
My money is on RFK jr ColinC May 2024 #29
Heh! Ok, fair enough... DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #31
Putin probably would be responsible. Kid Berwyn May 2024 #23
Chaos for them, not for us. marked50 May 2024 #25
Don't tease me MOMFUDSKI May 2024 #26
How mean ColinC May 2024 #28
He can kick off the day after Election Day. Dulcinea May 2024 #30
Perfect. leftieNanner May 2024 #82
Somebody should set these DU responses to music--they'd make a happy dance tune with lyrics that make you smile! Timeflyer May 2024 #32
Obituary of Donald J. Trump MrWowWow May 2024 #34
I will celebrate! RainCaster May 2024 #35
But only after a decade in prison! LuckyLib May 2024 #90
He always finds a way to end up on top people keep helping them out Tribetime May 2024 #36
I don't drink... TSExile May 2024 #37
One can hope! pandr32 May 2024 #38
My concern would be the VP pick. Whoever that turns out to be, may just be worse than alwaysinasnit May 2024 #39
You mean after edhopper May 2024 #40
"What if Trump passes on before the election?" LudwigPastorius May 2024 #41
How close before the election? Silent3 May 2024 #42
That depends on when he's passes sakabatou May 2024 #43
This article explains it all. Thank you! JoseBalow May 2024 #91
It won't matter. So he'll be an embalmed Republican DFW May 2024 #47
Won't happen, but if it did everyone would quickly move on to the next freakish Republican thing. betsuni May 2024 #49
Would be funny is he was required to be in court during either party's convention Simeon Salus May 2024 #50
Stop teasing us with hope. Traildogbob May 2024 #51
He lives in a fantasy world inside his head, yet the public humiliation of this trial NoMoreRepugs May 2024 #52
I expect the hardcore MAGAts would still vote for him Emrys May 2024 #58
What if he just drops out malaise May 2024 #60
He's not dropping out Polybius May 2024 #67
I can only kacekwl May 2024 #65
If Don goes to his reward his heir to the nomination will certainly be a MAGA. Ping Tung May 2024 #70
No such luck Hekate May 2024 #71
I do not want him to die before the election. Xavier Breath May 2024 #72
Best scenario that I can see is if Trump dies a day or two after wnylib May 2024 #75
Many of his supporters will deny it and vote for him anyway........ NowsTheTime May 2024 #74
We know for a fact that that Trump will pass before the election Bucky May 2024 #76
We rejoice. OAITW r.2.0 May 2024 #77
IF ... the party's at my house. I won't grave dance on DU - that's a violation of ToS, but it will be a hard resist. marble falls May 2024 #78
Party time!!! greatauntoftriplets May 2024 #79
it will be a beautiful day jcgoldie May 2024 #80
And a dream come true! calimary May 2024 #83
They'll just pretend he's still alive Diraven May 2024 #81
National week of celebration. Silent Type May 2024 #84
I'll tell you what will happen jmowreader May 2024 #85
Happy Dance....! Sogo May 2024 #86
Oh please!.... sdfernando May 2024 #87
I see many posts here about sdfernando May 2024 #89

FarPoint

(14,103 posts)
1. I have a suspicious feeling illness is in his near future...
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:01 PM
May 2024

Over the summer into the fall.... I still think he will be on the ballot in November..

magicarpet

(18,455 posts)
2. Please just let him meet with his demise,...
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:04 PM
May 2024

.... then we can eagerly sort things out once he is gone bye bye.

Vogon_Glory

(9,974 posts)
5. Interesting possibility
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:13 PM
May 2024

We may find out. I wouldn’t cry many tears if he flatlines after mid-September.

dutch777

(4,623 posts)
33. Somehow we can deal (let's contain our glee out of respect for his former office). NO ARLINGTON BURIAL!
Sat May 4, 2024, 09:20 PM
May 2024

Do all the MAGA heads then become zombies wandering around searching for new red meat tossed from the ramparts of the rich and infamous ?

Cosmocat

(15,200 posts)
46. Yes
Sun May 5, 2024, 04:32 AM
May 2024

There are countless completely immoral and hateful people who would throw themselves at the possibility of taking the whip.

MFM008

(20,041 posts)
44. Exactly
Sun May 5, 2024, 04:16 AM
May 2024

Kill them and let God sort them out.
... The thing about a martyr is that they're dead... It all works for me.

Tree Lady

(12,534 posts)
3. Probably won't happen this year
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:09 PM
May 2024

but he is aging fast. I was watching a video from 2016 and he had more energy, talked crazy still but much clearer. He can barely follow a thought now.

NJCher

(40,673 posts)
59. Rachel showed a clip of him 8 years ago
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:42 AM
May 2024

And then a clip of him now. Both were public speaking clips. It was remarkable. He looks like he should be limping around the nursing home, except none would have him.

I think it was Lawrence who observed him from the back and remarked how even though he is 6’2” or 6’3”, he is the shortest guy seated at the court table.From his viewpoint, he looked like a little old man with a shrinking spine.

Let this be a lesson to any similar fool who thinks he can evade accountability. It adds up and slaps you upside the head all at once. Even if he evaded prison, old age has got him.

Most of us will face old age, but many studies show that it is the most enjoyable phase of life, presumably because it is a time where we can do what we want. He did what he wanted all of his life and now he can’t do diddly because he has to sit in a cold court room and hustle to pay lawyers.



Ocelot II

(125,905 posts)
4. They will find me drunk and passed out
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:12 PM
May 2024

in my front yard surrounded by champagne bottles. Beyond that I don’t know what will happen.

NotASurfer

(2,349 posts)
13. You and me both
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:33 PM
May 2024

Champagne on constant standby for one of two contingencies: either a guilty verdict for one of the felonies, or an obituary I will read with somewhat unseemly pleasure 🥂

bdamomma

(68,786 posts)
54. Well if all
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:15 AM
May 2024

think hard enough maybe he will be with his Roy Cohn. They deserve each other.

NJCher

(40,673 posts)
61. So he's 78
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:47 AM
May 2024

You’d have him kicking around until 93?

Not even the most negative thinker would go with that.

NJCher

(40,673 posts)
68. his father had Alzheimer's
Sun May 5, 2024, 01:57 PM
May 2024

trump is already showing signs. With dementia, the brain cells die off and this is often how the person dies--there are not enough brain cells to tell them they are hungry, for example, and so they refuse to eat. the following refers to his inability to stay awake in court:

snip

Dr. Gartner believes Trump’s sleep issues stem from dementia-related brain deterioration, suggesting Trump’s inability to control his sleep-wake cycle is a sign of advanced stages.

snip

Polybius

(20,495 posts)
69. He certainly could have Alzheimer's, but sleeping in court isn't proof
Sun May 5, 2024, 02:45 PM
May 2024

Court is early and incredibly boring. It would be tiring on most soon-to-be 78 year olds. I fall asleep on the express bus from Manhattan quite often, and I'm Gen X. Even 15 years ago I did lol.

NJCher

(40,673 posts)
73. so you concede that he could have Alzheimer's
Sun May 5, 2024, 08:02 PM
May 2024

Have you read articles about the other symptoms he has displayed? We're not looking at just one symptom. There is the word slurring, for example. The absurd reference to Obama as the current president. His many remarks showing that he doesn't comprehend the basics of American history.

Are you aware of the other medical opinions, because this is far from the only one. Have you read those articles?

neverforget

(9,501 posts)
24. I keep saying to my wife that evil lives forever while the good die young
Sat May 4, 2024, 06:18 PM
May 2024

I'm going to drink a lot the day he passes on.

liberalmediaaddict

(988 posts)
7. Mass celebrations in the streets
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:20 PM
May 2024

Similar to November 7th, 2020 when Biden was declared the winner.

Unfortunately Trump's probably going to live to be 90. He's too damn mean to die. His hatred, ego and a lust for revenge gives him reason to live.

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
11. Not so sure about that.
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:31 PM
May 2024

Any human filled with bile, hatred, and a lust for revenge, is well along the road to self-destruction.

My guess is that most people who live to ninety tend to have a tranquil nature.

Trump is many things, but I doubt if anyone has ever applied the term "tranquil" to him.

EndlessWire

(7,974 posts)
10. Does Trump have
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:30 PM
May 2024

that ambulance that is supposed to follow him everywhere? Maybe it'll get a flat. You never know.

niyad

(125,164 posts)
12. My friends and I will have the happiest of celebrations.
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:33 PM
May 2024

Then we will start to clean up the mess he leaves behind.

NJCher

(40,673 posts)
63. It will be like
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:52 AM
May 2024

Building back Ukraine. That’s how much damage he’s done. His Covid death toll probably supersedes many wars.

NJCher

(40,673 posts)
64. I can see it now
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:56 AM
May 2024

Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Graetz, and Lauren Boebert—like a piece of toilet paper stuck to his shoe while he exits the room.

GopherGal

(2,529 posts)
27. I had omitted to consider the effect upon the ketchup supply chain...
Sat May 4, 2024, 09:04 PM
May 2024

in my concern for the expected run upon champagne and other sparkling wine supplies.

Probably it would result in some disruptions in the markets for orange foundation and hair shellac, as well as ketchup. But I'd be more personally concerned with the potential champagne shortages.

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
19. In the spirit of ultimate Democratic kindness, please vote BLUE and bite your tongue!
Sat May 4, 2024, 04:26 PM
May 2024

IDK, the others (GOP/GQP, etc...already seem quite pleased with their chaos stipends by our global enemies; the future is already quite anxiety-provoking. It's amazing that group so full of hubris can't see that their "masters" won't throw them under the bus given half a chance. SMH

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
21. So who will then become the Republican presidential nominee?
Sat May 4, 2024, 04:37 PM
May 2024

My bet is that the Trump convention delegates would mostly favor Ron DeSatan if it happened before the convention,
and if Trump died after the convention, the RNC members would also likely choose DeSantis as the replacement nominee.

Neither group are very likely to favor Haley...

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
31. Heh! Ok, fair enough...
Sat May 4, 2024, 09:12 PM
May 2024

Although some of the base may kind of like him, I don't see Trump delegates or RNC members voting much for him.

Dulcinea

(8,739 posts)
30. He can kick off the day after Election Day.
Sat May 4, 2024, 09:10 PM
May 2024

The shock of LOSING again just might do the trick.

leftieNanner

(16,008 posts)
82. Perfect.
Sun May 5, 2024, 10:43 PM
May 2024

We don't want them to have the chance to slip another candidate in there at the last minute.

Timeflyer

(3,267 posts)
32. Somebody should set these DU responses to music--they'd make a happy dance tune with lyrics that make you smile!
Sat May 4, 2024, 09:19 PM
May 2024

MrWowWow

(575 posts)
34. Obituary of Donald J. Trump
Sat May 4, 2024, 10:16 PM
May 2024

Convicted career criminal, Russian asset, and reputed mobster, Donald "StinkyDollHands" Trump (P01135809), the Worst President in United States History, surprisingly died of an abrupt guilty conscience and terminal moral bankruptcy on [Date] at the age of [Age]. Trump's normally bloated, morbidly obese, lifeless body, found by his then, male odor wife, Malaria, was slumped over his fabled Gold-plated toilet, and dressed in what appeared to be WWII-era German Lederhosen. His hands were still desperately clutching a first edition, autographed copy of Mein Kampf. . Trump's death truly marked the end of a criminalized, tumultuous and polarizing era/error in American politics.
.
Donald J. Trump's Epitaph:
.
There was a crooked man, and he walked a crooked mile,
.
He found a crooked sixpence against a crooked stile;
.
He wed a pornstar cat that caught a crooked rat,
.
And they all lived together in a little crooked shack.
.
-Pass it On. The Power of Nonthreatening Positive Thinking Never Ceases to Amaze! Visualize and you will realize. Live the Dream Baby!

😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

Tribetime

(6,707 posts)
36. He always finds a way to end up on top people keep helping them out
Sat May 4, 2024, 10:21 PM
May 2024

I just don't see him dying.He's on a mission to kill america

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
37. I don't drink...
Sat May 4, 2024, 10:21 PM
May 2024

...but if it happens I might just get completely blotto. Unfortunately, I don't think he's human. I am not unconvinced that TSF is not Satan incarnate. He's too evil to go away. 💔

alwaysinasnit

(5,454 posts)
39. My concern would be the VP pick. Whoever that turns out to be, may just be worse than
Sat May 4, 2024, 11:20 PM
May 2024

the orange Caligula.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
42. How close before the election?
Sun May 5, 2024, 01:20 AM
May 2024

If before the Republican convention, it would be up to the Republican convention to suddenly become a real convention, not just a showpiece. God knows who the Republican delegates would eventually chose to replace Trump. It would probably be worse chaos than Republicans have had choosing a Speaker of the House.

If Trump keeled over after being chosen by the Republican convention (as well as if Trump died after the election in November, but before December 17th) that's where the Electoral College would kick in.

What you're really voting for when you vote for President is a slate of electors committed to voting for that person for President in the Electoral College. People who (God knows why!) want Trump to be President, but who will also settle for any Republican at all over Biden, would continue to cast their votes for Trump even if Trump were dead.

Then it would be up to the Electors who had committed themselves to Trump, each individually, to choose someone else to vote for when the Electoral College meets on December 17th. Chances are, again, we'd have another Republicans-in-disarray mess and Republican electors would fail to agree on a single candidate.

That's all a moot point if Biden had won the electoral vote. If Biden hadn't won, and no one, not Biden nor any single Republican, can get a majority of Electoral votes, the election has to be decided by the House... leading to yet another shit show unless, by time the House had to vote, the November elections had given Democrats a majority of state delegations (not necessarily the same as having a majority of Representatives), in which case Biden becomes President.

I've got no idea what happens if a Presidential candidate dies after the Electoral College meets. I'd guess either the elected VP goes on to be President, or there's another situation where the House decides the election. Not sure!

DFW

(58,480 posts)
47. It won't matter. So he'll be an embalmed Republican
Sun May 5, 2024, 04:38 AM
May 2024

They'll run his remains as their candidate, and he'll still get 45% of the vote. Why so high? Because he won't be making so many stupid statements in front of the cameras any more.

betsuni

(28,108 posts)
49. Won't happen, but if it did everyone would quickly move on to the next freakish Republican thing.
Sun May 5, 2024, 05:26 AM
May 2024

Simeon Salus

(1,508 posts)
50. Would be funny is he was required to be in court during either party's convention
Sun May 5, 2024, 08:55 AM
May 2024

Seeing him in the courtroom, he looks just bad. Posing as beaten. The day after day must be bad for a fellow used to someone else flushing his golden toilet.

The camera schtick might not be working out as well as TSF thinks it is either. SNL should have a great time with that.

NoMoreRepugs

(11,479 posts)
52. He lives in a fantasy world inside his head, yet the public humiliation of this trial
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:07 AM
May 2024

has to be affecting him greatly. He’s not a vibrant healthy specimen to start out with, this level of stress is taking a daily toll. His taking the dirtnap relatively soon is not far fetched IMO.

Emrys

(8,665 posts)
58. I expect the hardcore MAGAts would still vote for him
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:37 AM
May 2024

Some might even top themselves in solidarity.

malaise

(286,475 posts)
60. What if he just drops out
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:46 AM
May 2024

He knows the writing is on the wall and the bluster no longer works

I maintain that he will not be on their ticket. I don’t care if he croaks

kacekwl

(8,461 posts)
65. I can only
Sun May 5, 2024, 11:00 AM
May 2024

hope. Don't care what his cult says. Many in his party will silently rejoice I'm sure. There will be another fascist to replace him but not with the cult like following he has.

Ping Tung

(3,005 posts)
70. If Don goes to his reward his heir to the nomination will certainly be a MAGA.
Sun May 5, 2024, 03:04 PM
May 2024

Maybe a "not as bad" one that could draw some "not as bad" voters.

As it is now, Trump himself is Biden's best aide in getting Biden votes. Biden knows this and has made Trump THE #1 issue followed by abortion rights. A winning combination. Add in Kristi's dog for the icing.

Xavier Breath

(5,828 posts)
72. I do not want him to die before the election.
Sun May 5, 2024, 04:07 PM
May 2024

Firstly because I want him to be convicted and serve at least some of his sentence. We've come too far for him to escape justice by slipping out the back door. Besides, the idea of him being behind bars and watching his cult losing their ever loving shit on the news every day would be absolute bliss. Then, after 12-18 months of said ecstasy, he can kick the bucket as far as I'm concerned.

Secondly, it introduces an X factor to the election. We know what Trump is and we know how much he is reviled. The last thing we need is for some younger, actually coherent candidate who might appeal more to moderates to emerge from the shadows. That's just too unpredictable for my liking.

wnylib

(25,310 posts)
75. Best scenario that I can see is if Trump dies a day or two after
Sun May 5, 2024, 10:12 PM
May 2024

Biden is declared the winner. No more Trump to file endless nuisance court cases about a rigged election. No Trump to call for a violent overthrow of the results.

MAGA Party leaders will still insist that it was rigged, but might not have the money to pursue it in court. MAGA voters will still create sporadic violence and claim that, not only was the election rigged, but Trump was murdered before he could prove it.

But none of them will have the BS gaslighting skill that Trump perfected over his lifetime. The party will be in as much chaos as when the House couldn't decide on a Speaker.


Bucky

(55,334 posts)
76. We know for a fact that that Trump will pass before the election
Sun May 5, 2024, 10:17 PM
May 2024

Hell, he's been "passing" nonstop every day in court for the last 2 weeks!

And the Republicans will nominate whoever Putin tells them to.

marble falls

(66,989 posts)
78. IF ... the party's at my house. I won't grave dance on DU - that's a violation of ToS, but it will be a hard resist.
Sun May 5, 2024, 10:29 PM
May 2024

Diraven

(1,446 posts)
81. They'll just pretend he's still alive
Sun May 5, 2024, 10:40 PM
May 2024

Last edited Sun May 5, 2024, 11:14 PM - Edit history (1)

They can easily make an AI that can spit out random all-caps rants mixed with MAGA lies mixed with QAnon conspiracy theories on Truth Social every day. In fact it would probably be more intelligent sounding than Trump does now. Then they'll reject all the debates because "the polls say he's winning by a landslide". The hardest problem will be what to do when he's required to be in court for his criminal trials. But since he's already expected to sleep the whole time they could probably get by with a Weekend at Bernie's situation.

jmowreader

(52,527 posts)
85. I'll tell you what will happen
Sun May 5, 2024, 11:09 PM
May 2024

1. The Trump camp will petition the Justice Department to suspend the trials as he is "in the hospital." They will do that. They will choose someone who's just as bad as he is, if not worse, to run as vice-president. I'm thinking MTG.

2. AI-generated campaign videos will be produced.

3. They will hire Vincent d'Onofrio to portray Trump at rallies for the rest of the campaign. Since Mr. d'Onofrio really likes to do roles that require a ton of makeup, he will not mind. Reporters will marvel at how coherent he sounds.

4. They will refuse to participate in debates because "Trump" feels it is beneath him to be on the same stage as Joe Biden.

5. If he wins the election, about a week after that they'll announce that Trump died in his sleep and MTG will become president.

sdfernando

(5,800 posts)
89. I see many posts here about
Sun May 5, 2024, 11:44 PM
May 2024

how the good die young and evil lives a long time….. this is a fallacy. I give you as a prime example…

….one named James Earl Carter….. who is now 99 years old and over a year in hospice care.

Good people DO live long and prosper. 🖖

Same as evil. But for different reasons.

I’m glad Jimmy is still with us and it will be a sad dark day when he passes.

The sick fuck???…. not so much…. Couldn’t happen soon enough for me!

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