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madokie

(51,076 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:16 AM Nov 2012

Twilight of the old white guys, Mark Morford

This doesn’t mean it’s going to be easy. This doesn’t mean it’s going to be smooth or fun or make any sort of cohesive sense. Not by a long shot. And not for a long, long time.

But across the board and down the line, the take on Obama’s astonishing, historic re-election is the same: America is more wildly, unexpectedly diverse than ever, and those diverse voices – Latino, gay, black, immigrant, female, et al – somehow coalesced into a potent, vociferous, albeit hotly unstable coalition to vote more powerfully and more passionately than any time in our short history, mostly because they never really existed as a functioning coalition in our short history, until now.

This is what the Republican punditry and even many old-timer Dems are coming to terms with: America is no longer a nifty, sepia-toned melting pot kept anodyne and marginal by the rich, starchy bleach of the white ruling class.

Is it not the most astonishing thing? The country is not getting any whiter, older white bigoted people are helpfully dying off, and we now have a messy and nearly incomprehensible Catherine wheel of assorted nonwhite minorities (and women) all spinning, dancing and surging into the limelight – not to mention the cross-breeds, the already mixed, the racially unidentifiable who are, say, a quarter black, a quarter Chinese, a quarter Indian, a third polyamorous and a tenth Cuban kinky hipster lesbian schoolteacher, with a no-religious-affiliation kicker. Sweet.

The rest: http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2012/11/13/old-white-guys/

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Twilight of the old white guys, Mark Morford (Original Post) madokie Nov 2012 OP
Better tell the Republican leadership in the House. Tennessee Gal Nov 2012 #1
+1,000 malaise Nov 2012 #2
That was a delicious read lunatica Nov 2012 #3
"the times they are a -changin' " madrchsod Nov 2012 #4
"older white bigoted people are helpfully dying off" This is true NNN0LHI Nov 2012 #5
I think there is more to it than that BlueStreak Nov 2012 #9
comment to read later. ewagner Nov 2012 #6
K&R txwhitedove Nov 2012 #7
A few thoughts occur Jester Messiah Nov 2012 #8
In a multi-anything mix, YOU are part of the mix. bemildred Nov 2012 #10
Thanks. Feels good to belong! [nt] Jester Messiah Nov 2012 #13
You're included brush Nov 2012 #11
Happy to be a part of it. Jester Messiah Nov 2012 #14
Not to mention that a lot of the old white guys . . . MrModerate Nov 2012 #12
Keep at it, good sir. Jester Messiah Nov 2012 #15
I expect to be voting (at least) until 2032 . . . MrModerate Nov 2012 #16
Bullshit. Old white guys will always be with us. Bucky Nov 2012 #17
citation Bucky Nov 2012 #18

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
1. Better tell the Republican leadership in the House.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:25 AM
Nov 2012

Every single committee is going to be headed by white men. No women. No minorities.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
3. That was a delicious read
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:38 AM
Nov 2012

I liked every word. And I agree with Mark Morford. This is real change happening right now.

Frankly I'm delighted.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
5. "older white bigoted people are helpfully dying off" This is true
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:50 AM
Nov 2012

Problem is we still have almost a complete generation of bigoted Reaganites from 30 years ago among us to replace them with.

They made up most of the 47% of idiots who voted for Romney. Soon as they kick we will be in high cotton. Problem is some of them were indoctrinated with Reaganism when they were only kids. So it might be a little while.

Don

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
9. I think there is more to it than that
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:28 AM
Nov 2012

We have to educate people to not be bigoted. For 30 years, liberals sat back without any organized voice (other than Labor) while the right wing took over virtually all of radio and virtually all of the teevee news channels. Even PBS has bone significantly right of center the past 15 years or so.

We cannot stand on the sidelines and bemoan the fact that Republicans seem to have a lot of stupid people and racists in their midst. Of course they do. They CULTIVATE them. And it will not fundamentally change unless we commit to advancing our ideas from the grass roots up.

Otherwise we will be here 15 years from now complaining about how the Latino population or the African-American population is buying into the Republican crap.

It won't just come to us. We have to go out and make it happen. This election cycle was a very good start, but only a start.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
8. A few thoughts occur
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:11 AM
Nov 2012

First off, it must be nice to live in San Fran. If all the US were like San Fran, I'd be hopeful and happy too. Sadly, there is still a thing called the bible belt, where they indoctrinate children like nobody's business.

Secondly, I love that the non-majority people are finding their voice and making their impact felt. I, however, am not "minority" in any way except that I'm an atheist. I look and sound exactly like the enemy. It sucks. I can only say "not all white guys are like that" so many times before it starts to feel futile. Is there no love for a penitent cracker?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
10. In a multi-anything mix, YOU are part of the mix.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:39 AM
Nov 2012

So yes, penitent crackers are welcome and more than welcome.

brush

(53,871 posts)
11. You're included
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:54 AM
Nov 2012

The president could not have won without the progressive white vote, which is a part of our amazing coalition. Now let's keep it together and gear up for 2014. But first let's relax and bask in the glow of this huge victory for a little while longer.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
14. Happy to be a part of it.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:02 PM
Nov 2012

And basking is nice, but I say we keep 'em on the ropes until they go down for the count!

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
12. Not to mention that a lot of the old white guys . . .
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:59 AM
Nov 2012

Are Democrats.

And while we're dying off too, we're going to keep voting Democratic (for the most part) until we do.

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
17. Bullshit. Old white guys will always be with us.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:56 PM
Nov 2012

It's the twilight of exclusivity, certainly. But old white guys are still a majority of the House, the Senate, the Scotus, and the Cabinet. In 11 years, I'll be an OWG too. I fully intend to lord it over each of you.

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
18. citation
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:01 PM
Nov 2012

I was a little hesitant to write "and the Cabinet" so I checked. The head count is 11 OWGs to 12 non-Ws and non-Gs among the cabinet officers and cabinet level officials. Throw in the Prexy and it's 11 to 13. 10 to 14 if you count Joe Biden as a honey badger like I do. So not a majority. But still the largest bi-demographic subset. I mean, this is all assuming we're counting the Jews and the Irish as white. They didn't use to, ya know.

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