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MLAA

(18,728 posts)
1. I think that kicks in only after appeal process is over.
Thu May 30, 2024, 04:30 PM
May 2024

Hopefully the appeal process is exhausted before election.

NutmegYankee

(16,352 posts)
7. I don't see where appeals apply.
Thu May 30, 2024, 04:35 PM
May 2024

Unless he wins an appeal and the case is tossed, his restriction starts now. And I think it applies for the duration of probation, which is probably going to be a year.

onenote

(44,863 posts)
9. Under New York and Florida law he can vote if he isn't imprisoned..
Thu May 30, 2024, 04:36 PM
May 2024

In New York, one can vote with a criminal record if he/she:

was convicted of a misdemeanor; or is on parole; or is on probation; or was not sentenced to prison or had the prison sentence suspended; or
served the maximum prison sentence; or was pardoned.

And, according to a summary of Florida voting rights prepared by the ACLU, the Florida voting rights of a person convicted of a felony outside Florida are governed by the state where the person was convicted.

https://www.aclufl.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/florida_voting_rights_amendment_4_one_pager_august_2022_final.pdf

It is far from clear that he'll be sentenced to prison and even if he is, it is likely that sentence will be stayed while he appeals. Thus, it is more likely than not that he'll be able to vote.

questionseverything

(10,313 posts)
4. Abc news said since it's the lowest level felony he could still vote in New York
Thu May 30, 2024, 04:33 PM
May 2024

But I thought he lived in Florida so it seems unclear

Lars39

(26,272 posts)
5. Per abc person,
Thu May 30, 2024, 04:34 PM
May 2024

since he’s a resident of Florida, Florida law defers to state where the trial was. Some convicted felons can vote, depends on what state of New York decides, iirc.

obamanut2012

(27,961 posts)
11. DeSantis will make a special law for him in Florida
Thu May 30, 2024, 04:39 PM
May 2024

Probably let him mail in a ballot.

I am serious.

onenote

(44,863 posts)
13. Florida law says he can vote if he could vote in New York. And New York law suggests he can vote
Thu May 30, 2024, 04:44 PM
May 2024

at least until such time as he begins serving a prison sentence, which almost certainly won't happen any time soon, if ever.

onenote

(44,863 posts)
15. Let me clarify.
Thu May 30, 2024, 05:08 PM
May 2024

Whether someone domiciled and registered to vote in Florida is entitled to vote after being convicted out of state depends on whether, had he been a resident of that state, he would be allowed to vote.

Put another way:the Florida voting rights of a person convicted of a felony outside Florida are governed by the state where the person was convicted.

https://www.aclufl.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/florida_voting_rights_amendment_4_one_pager_august_2022_final.pdf

magicarpet

(17,235 posts)
12. trDUMP as a convicted felon now needs to turn in all his machine guns, AR-15s, AK-47s, sawed off shot guns, and,...
Thu May 30, 2024, 04:39 PM
May 2024

.... various assorted hand guns ?

Correct ?

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
18. NO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT
Thu May 30, 2024, 07:04 PM
May 2024

Good grief, try--TRY--to learn what the facts are.

Namely, that Florida allows felons with out-of-state convictions to vote IF THEIR CONVICTING STATE ALLOWS THEM TO VOTE, AND NY ALLOWS FELONS TO VOTE IF THEY ARE NOT IN PRISON. That means someone on probation, or who received a suspended sentence, can vote.

You are over your skis to a mortifying degree if you think probation is a long shot for him, when it's the most likely case.

Autumn

(46,827 posts)
19. I try--TRY--to be nice when I respond or ask a question. I am not a lawyer, nor do I pretend to be one.
Thu May 30, 2024, 07:26 PM
May 2024

I simply asked if he is a convicted felon can he still vote. Don't get too upset. Others were kind and politely informed me of the legal details.

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