Jeezus, They Aren't Asking For Your Hand In Marriage..

[._.]

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

1. "Biden is old", "Kamala cackles"

[Hekate]

33. Every woman who gets close to the presidency is !!!suddenly!!! revealed to be a cackler....

It’s astonishing to me — must be something in the air of DC that attacks female vocal cords.

[xmas74]

45. I proudly cackle when deeply amused.

I never understood why they feel the need to insult a woman when she's amused.
It's absolute nonsense.

[Hekate]

46. It's part of the impossible standards for mature women. Teen girls giggle. Witches cackle....

That’s the slur of saying Kamala or Hillary “cackle” — by implication they become old, ugly, and users of evil magic. Not wise elders possessed of intelligence and deep understanding.

Postscript: I have friends are of the Wiccan persuasion and they call themselves witches. But all of us raised in this culture understand when the name is used as a slur.

[betsuni]

47. And the fictional "shrill" thing. Both Hillary and Kamala have low voices.

[Hekate]

48. That, too. I forgot about the "shrill" thing. Tsk -- those harpies.

[wnylib]

2. Too many people treat voting for presidents

and representatives in government like they were voting in a popularity contest for the king and queen of their middle or high school prom.

I heard people say that they voted for Bush the Younger because they felt like they could have a beer with him. Really? What about his economic programs that would leave you with too tight of a budget to buy a beer?

[karynnj]

8. In interviews on her book, Jen Psaki speaking of Obama. Biden and Kerry,

Spoke of how the media image of Kerry was not the extroverted, nice man she knew. I remember the woman, Jodi Wilgoen, the NYT had covering Kerry, who is now with the Forward editor in chief, wrote he was a social loner. When that was questioned, she spoke of having spoken to 20 of his friends since college. Somehow, I would think having 20 friends in college, even more still being connected to them in his 50s, makes this a strange comment.

In contrast, Elizabeth Bumiller often sounded like a GWB groupie.

The praise the NYT gave Bush's second "spreading democracy" inaugural speech might explain that difference. Judith Miller, who spread Cheney's lies was not acting alone in furtherance of a neocon experiment.

[3Hotdogs]

12. Thank heaven, we have Maggie Haberman to explain Trump to us.

[karynnj]

16. True, and in 2016, the NYT had Patrick Healy to (negatively) explain the Clintons

[magicarpet]

26. If you ain't a top ratings star of a Reality Television Show,...

... I am sorry, but it would be impossible for me to vote for you for US President.

Say What?

[2naSalit]

3. Ayuh.

[Behind the Aegis]

4. But Israel....

[RandiFan1290]

5. Yep, these so called 'centrists' are strange. nt

[liberal N proud]

6. They are just hiding their conservative side

From themselves and others.
My sister fell for the Hillary is corrupt shit in 2016.

[karynnj]

10. The Hillary is corrupt meme ignored two things

One, Trump was FAR FAR more corrupt and serious reporters had exposed corrupt business practices. He claimed his taxes for many many years could not be revealed as they were under audit. He was also associated with corrupt people, from Roy Cohn to Roger Stone to Paul Manaford.

Two, there were no examples of corruption - even with the posting of all her emails and the earlier, Chelsea Manning leak of State Dept cables when she was SoS. Her life for decades was an open book.

[liberal N proud]

21. None of that stopped the MAGA from slandering her

And building him up.
We knew it was bulshit then.

[elocs]

7. Our presidential elections are binary with the winner either being the Democratic candidate or the Republican one.

That's it.
I make this simple because in over 50 years of voting I always vote for the Democratic candidate in every general election.
Here in Wisconsin in '16, Jill Stein of the Green Party received more votes that Trump's margin of victory and overwhelmingly most of those votes came from Democrats and the Left, not Republicans. How did this help to elect Hillary Clinton? Clearly, it didn't. The same goes for choosing not to vote at all.
Sadly, this year it is very likely that there will be Democrats and those on the left will do the thing. Don't we ever learn?

[FakeNoose]

31. Our job is to get out and convince those Dems and Indies to vote

It's the most important thing they'll do all year - or all decade. Maybe even in their lifetime.

Everyone you know and talk to between now and November 5th needs to hear it.

[BSdetect]

9. Al Gore was robbed by scotus, Kerry by the msm, HRC by misogynist fucks

[oasis]

15. +1

[eppur_se_muova]

20. and the personal enmity of Vladimir Putin. nt

[Skittles]

22. CORRECT

yes INDEED

[sop]

11. To be expected when "journalists" covering elections focus almost exclusively on personality, not policy.

[brooklynite]

14. See #13.

[central scrutinizer]

23. The Republicans had no platform in 2020

Other than Dear Leader. You’d think that would have been a big deal.

[sop]

24. They don't call the GOP "a personality cult" for nothing.

[brooklynite]

13. Translation: voters don't gravitate toward policy-focused technocrats.

Complain all you want about "who would you rather have a beer with"; voters select Presidents emotionally, not based on a resume.

[karynnj]

18. Agreed, but it is very hard to correct a media definition that is not true

[sop]

19. Voters select presidents emotionally because it's how they've been conditioned by corporate media.

I remember when working class Americans voted their pocketbooks; economic self interest was more important than how voters felt emotionally about a candidate. There was a time when big city newspapers in the industrial states all had Labor Sections and those in the agricultural heartland carried Farm Reports, covering policy issues in detail that affected their working class readers. Those days are long gone.

Voters focused on granular policy issues because they were exposed to them, and were made aware that such things affected them. Now it's all about Hunter's dick pics, Trump's porn star payoffs or some other inconsequential bullshit. Voters gravitate towards personality because that's what they're being offered by corporate media.

[Maru Kitteh]

32. The farm reports are still there, but their targets are now corporate farms and

those who toil on their behalf loyally.

[sop]

34. They've moved them to the financial pages.

[Norbert]

17. My personal favotite

Unemployment has been 4% or lower for about 3 years.

Yeah, but the labor participation rate is really high.

[TheKentuckian]

25. I can't grasp why anyone would rather have a beer with Smelvis over Biden either.

I cannot justify a Chump vote even as joke or for any reason.

[Arne]

27. Obama gave us all at least a period of sanity.

[Hekate]

35. Yes, but the complaints at DU were so all-pervasive that my friends & I spent 8 years in the BOG

It was only at the very end that DUers started waxing nostalgic about how good he was. And how good Hillary never could be.

[Arne]

38. I had stepped away and never saw that.

Just recently started posting.

[betsuni]

42. Constant Both Sides whining. Barack "third way" Obama, Hillary "establishment" Clinton, Joe "centrist" Biden.

[magicarpet]

28. I was bored silly on election day so I figured I'd vote for someone different and exciting..

Besides his name had a nice flare to it. It caught my eye as I scanned the election ballot. I never realized how voting for such a stupid person could be so harmful and detrimental.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

29. Yeah I don't get it.

I don't need a drinking buddy (GWB's appeal) or an alpha male role model (Trump's supposed appeal).

Of course those of us who really know Trump are aware he's a whiney man-child who inherited his wealth. But a lie is an easy thing to believe if it's what you want to hear.

Joe Biden is competent and that's all I need.

[AllaN01Bear]

30. jimmy who?

was the so called wise cracks . or that old peanut farmer.

[Hekate]

36. Excellent meme & reminder

[PeaceWave]

37. I had Sanders supporters tell me they couldn't vote for Hillary due to "criminal investigations."

Back in 2016, these folks came to my house and said that to my face. I was aghast. This was a Trump talking point being parroted by Bernie Sanders supporters. I said "But, you'll vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination, right?" The answer was "No. It's time for the wealthy to pay their fair share of taxes and she doesn't support our vision." That's the first time I realized there was something seriously wrong going on within the Party. The willingness to throw an election because you aren't going to get every damn thing you want appears to be an exclusively Democratic trait. Republicans are a lot of horrible things. But, at least they know when to fall in line.

[Arne]

39. at least they know when to fall in line

I don't think they do.

[oldmanlynn]

40. That's propaganda nfm

[RazorbackExpat]

41. I remember Maureen What's-her-name ragging on Al Gore in the NYT

because of his "earth tone" clothes

[4lbs]

43. I'm not asking for the most likeable person. I want the person most capable of

doing the f*cking job.

Would you give the job to your local drunk at the bar?

If your answer is yes, then go the f*ck away and let the adults do things, because you are an idiot.

[Blue Owl]

44. The Susan Sarandon School of Candidate Selection

[betsuni]

49. Passionate surrogate for John Edwards whose Iraq war vote same as Hillary, Kerry and

other Democrats BUT THAT WAS DIFFERENT. Hillary more dangerous than Trump. Great judgement as always!

[Model35mech]

50. True. They are asking for our precious vote.

Now I know that will bother people who don't think a vote is worth a kopeck.

BUT those damned votes are why a million or so Americans died across many wars thinking they were defending our democracy.

Please don't blame voters for voting their choice. It REALLY -IS- THEIR CHOICE. Even though we may hate that choice on DU.

Blame assholes like corporate loving political advisors such as republican wife loving, James Carville who can't come up with popular issues to campaign on that garner the votes that guarantee a win.

I really find blaming voters exercising their legal choice for political losses tiresome. That's just bullsh*t identity politics, begging for loyalty, that regularly, but certainly not always, means nothing to the pols.

VOTERS NEED TO BLAME THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THIER CAMPAIGNS GO UP THE WRONG CUL DE SAC.

[Freddie]

51. I still haven't forgiven my BIL

For voting for Ralph Nader. Idiot. I suppose here in Pennsylvania it didn’t make much difference but it sure did in New Hampshire.