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RandySF

(71,760 posts)
Sun Jun 23, 2024, 08:32 PM Jun 2024

NY-16: It's Not Just AIPAC: How Jamaal Bowman Alienated Voters Who Once Supported Him

If the polling is accurate, Rep. Jamaal Bowman is the heavy underdog in Tuesday’s Democratic primary for New York’s 16th Congressional District.

The topline story of the race is, understandably, pro-Israel groups’ record-breaking spending against Bowman, a passionate pro-Palestinian advocate who has dubbed Israel’s invasion of Gaza a “genocide.” Super PACs backing Bowman’s challenger, Westchester County Executive George Latimer, have outspent pro-Bowman super PACs on the airwaves by a 9-to-1 margin, helping make it the most expensive House primary in history. The independent spending arm of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee alone has spent $14.6 million on television, digital and direct-mail advertisements.

“They are so afraid of us — those who oppose the working class, multiracial, multieconomic, multicultural democracy that we are trying to build,” Bowman told volunteers getting ready to canvas the Bronx’s Co-Op City neighborhood on May 26. “They’re spending more money in this race than they have ever spent in the history of any race. That’s how afraid AIPAC is.”

It is impossible to predict the results of a counterfactual scenario where Bowman did not face this kind of spending. But while he would have undoubtedly fared better if he were not up against an avalanche of super PAC money, his problems predate the lopsided advertising blitz.



https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jamaal-bowman-not-just-aipac-money_n_6677291fe4b0fdfa60647614


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NY-16: It's Not Just AIPAC: How Jamaal Bowman Alienated Voters Who Once Supported Him (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2024 OP
At least the Dems won't lose a seat if Bowman loses. aeromanKC Jun 2024 #1
Do you live in NY-16? N/T lapucelle Jun 2024 #2
Just like 99% of people who bitch about Manchin don't live in West Virginia. aeromanKC Jun 2024 #3
It's going to be all hands on deck for the general election in NY-17. lapucelle Jun 2024 #4
Bowman's political future is toast Polybius Jun 2024 #38
That HuffPo story is devastating. lapucelle Jun 2024 #5
I finally saw Bowman on TV instead of reading articles, and Nixie Jun 2024 #6
Aloha Nixie.. Cha Jun 2024 #13
Aloha Cha! That is a great read and endorsement of Latimer. Nixie Jun 2024 #15
I htought you would Cha Jun 2024 #17
Excellent Cha! God, I knew this guy had voted against some of Biden's stuff... but really infrastructure? Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #39
You're So Welcome, Dems! Cha Jun 2024 #43
The rally wasn't in his district FBaggins Jun 2024 #26
AIPAC and its GOP allies tried the exact same strategy and playbook to defeat Deminpenn Jun 2024 #7
Yeah, that was then.. this is Now with George Latimer who Cha Jun 2024 #9
Irwin probably has a better progressive resume than Latimer, Deminpenn Jun 2024 #11
George Latimer is well known and very well liked Cha Jun 2024 #12
Where did you read that Latimer has "no real accomplishments"? lapucelle Jun 2024 #30
George Latimer is well liked in Westchester County where my family and friends still live. I don't like the word Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #40
"AIPAC and its GOP allies". Is that meant to scare somebody? AIPAC has "allies" on both sides of the aisle. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2024 #18
Same with the disdainful snark at "establishment Dems" Happy Hoosier Jun 2024 #35
Ain't it the truth... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2024 #37
That always pisses me off as well... Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #41
+1 betsuni Jun 2024 #45
Are you suggesting that George Latimer isn't a "real" Democrat? brooklynite Jun 2024 #23
Bowman has a much stronger primary opponent. RandySF Jun 2024 #36
"his problems predate the lopsided advertising blitz" Nixie Jun 2024 #8
Yes. I don't like the lopsided media blitz. But Bowman isn't doing himself Scrivener7 Jun 2024 #20
WEll Karma is a bitch Historic NY Jun 2024 #10
I'm sorry you lost SPM as Cha Jun 2024 #14
Two years after the disastrous 2022 election, everyone has moved on. Maloney now has a cushy gig in Paris as the U.S. Celerity Jun 2024 #22
My wife works with OECD for Treasury and I wouldn't describe working there as "cushy". brooklynite Jun 2024 #24
take it up with the author of the article that the other poster put up (post 10), that is where I took that excerpt from Celerity Jun 2024 #25
It's so weird that the Congressional Progressive Caucus rescinded its endorsement. lapucelle Jun 2024 #27
I really liked Sean Patrick Maloney when he was on the talk Nixie Jun 2024 #16
We lost two seats in Nassau County because of the perception that all Democrats lapucelle Jun 2024 #28
Your New York perspectives are always so valuable, lapucelle. Nixie Jun 2024 #29
K&R betsuni Jun 2024 #19
KnR Hekate Jun 2024 #21
If Saturday's rally is any indication of voter enthusiasm for Bowman, lapucelle Jun 2024 #31
Great article LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #32
Look at Bowman's voting record LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #33
TY for this! Cha Jun 2024 #34
Most if not all of that (his votes) is rather pathetic, not helpful electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #42
Fauxgressives is right. I would be livid if my rep voted like Nixie Jun 2024 #44
Latimer: "the Cher of Westchester County"! Over half of his donations from the district, Bowman 10%. betsuni Jun 2024 #46

aeromanKC

(3,540 posts)
1. At least the Dems won't lose a seat if Bowman loses.
Sun Jun 23, 2024, 08:41 PM
Jun 2024

This race stinks. Gonna have to hold my nose on this one it seems. AND if the Biden wins, there will be a 2026 to try again. So there is that. Bowman 2026!!

aeromanKC

(3,540 posts)
3. Just like 99% of people who bitch about Manchin don't live in West Virginia.
Sun Jun 23, 2024, 09:02 PM
Jun 2024

I've always been pro Manchin though due to possession of the gavel. Not that it matters.

lapucelle

(19,700 posts)
4. It's going to be all hands on deck for the general election in NY-17.
Sun Jun 23, 2024, 09:10 PM
Jun 2024

I'll be working to flip NY-04 back to blue.

lapucelle

(19,700 posts)
5. That HuffPo story is devastating.
Sun Jun 23, 2024, 09:13 PM
Jun 2024

Bowman kept referencing the "South Bronx" during his rally on Saturday. It's not even in his district.

Nixie

(17,518 posts)
6. I finally saw Bowman on TV instead of reading articles, and
Sun Jun 23, 2024, 10:14 PM
Jun 2024

he seems unhinged. I would not want that demeanor as my rep.

Latimer looks much better suited to actually serve constituents instead of stoking hate and violence against other New York residents like Bowman was doing.

Nixie

(17,518 posts)
15. Aloha Cha! That is a great read and endorsement of Latimer.
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 12:59 AM
Jun 2024

It's particularly pathetic that it points out that Bowman's votes align with Marjorie Taylor Green. How ridiculous is that for Bowman's constituents to put up with.

Enough of his empty showboating. Time for Latimer to contribute to our party and cut the ego trippers loose.

Thanks for the link, Cha. 👍

Cha

(306,979 posts)
17. I htought you would
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 01:12 AM
Jun 2024

appreciate it, Nixie.. I really did.

Itt's like the Editorial Board of the Yonkers Times has been paying close attention George Latimer and Jamal Bowman!

You're Welcome!

Demsrule86

(71,038 posts)
39. Excellent Cha! God, I knew this guy had voted against some of Biden's stuff... but really infrastructure?
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 07:50 PM
Jun 2024

And not condemning Hamas for the attack. Also, I had no idea that his record mirrored MTG...good lord thanks for the link.

FBaggins

(27,970 posts)
26. The rally wasn't in his district
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 05:57 AM
Jun 2024

Not a great sign for the weekend if the primary

But I’m sure he’ll be back tomorrow… probably pulling fire alarms in Jewish neighborhoods

Deminpenn

(16,477 posts)
7. AIPAC and its GOP allies tried the exact same strategy and playbook to defeat
Sun Jun 23, 2024, 10:20 PM
Jun 2024

Summer Lee in her primary two years ago, running a "Democrat" Steve Irwin against her. They failed.

Cha

(306,979 posts)
9. Yeah, that was then.. this is Now with George Latimer who
Sun Jun 23, 2024, 10:36 PM
Jun 2024

is the Best Candidate for NY 16.

He got a Great review from the Yonkers Times... Bowman not so much.

Deminpenn

(16,477 posts)
11. Irwin probably has a better progressive resume than Latimer,
Sun Jun 23, 2024, 11:27 PM
Jun 2024

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Irwin_(attorney) ) yet he still lost.

AIPAC and its GOP allies supported him because he'd be a solid supporter of AIPACs foreign policy agenda of unwavering support for Isreal and the GOP chipped in because Summer Lee is opposed to the GOP's agenda of tax cuts for the rich and all that goes along with that.

Latimer is as establishment as it gets, seems to have no real accomplishments to his name and is 71 years old! No wonder he's picked up the endorsements of the establishment Dems.

Cha

(306,979 posts)
12. George Latimer is well known and very well liked
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 12:19 AM
Jun 2024

in District 16.. he has wonderful Endorsements.. and like I said from the Yonkers Times in Bowman's hometown where he had his Kickoff.

DEMOCRATS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF BOWMAN, EMBRACE LATIMER

https://yonkerstimes.com/democrats-have-had-enough-of-bowman-embrace-latimer/

lapucelle

(19,700 posts)
30. Where did you read that Latimer has "no real accomplishments"?
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 09:28 AM
Jun 2024

Latimer managed to flip the county executive office blue in 2018 and has delivered real results for real people in his county. ever since.

He knows his county, he knows the district, and he has real accomplishments as county executive.

It's hard to say the same for Jamaal Bowman, who inexplicably shouted stuff about the power of the South Bronx at his campaign rally on Saturday, even though he the rally was in Mott Haven (not part of the South Bronx and not part of Bowman's district) and even though the South Bronx is NY-15, Ritchie Torres's district.

------------------------------------------------------------

Westchester County Executive George Latimer delivered his 7th annual State of the County address on March 14, in which he outlined the county initiatives and programs under his leadership “for all families.”

Latimer touted the creation of 6,000 new units of affordable housing, the expansion of the Child Care Scholarship, $20M for electric vehicle charging infrastructure, $1M for the Black Maternal Child Health Initiative, $1.5M for tobacco prevention and cessation program, and the seasonal suspension of the Bee-Line Bus fares.

On the environment, Latimer applauded the Board of Legislators for passing the single use food ware law as well as the Lead Free Parks Act, the Addressing Asthma in Communities of Color Amendment, the Renewable Energy Database Act and the Equity in Environmental Legislation Act. Latimer pointed out that the County has made a substantial investment of $20 million to expand electric vehicle charging infrastructure at County parking facilities, adding that “These efforts underscore our commitment to sustainability and community well-being.”

Latimer affirmed his commitment to support the uninsured and underinsured residents of Westchester, bolstering our Federally Qualified Health Centers with $3 million in funding while also setting aside more than $1 million for the County’s Black Maternal Child Health Initiative, and $1.5-million-dollars to promote tobacco prevention and cessation programs.

https://yonkerstimes.com/latimer-touts-achievements-for-all-families-in-7th-annual-state-of-the-county-address-with-protests-against-congressional-run-outside/

Demsrule86

(71,038 posts)
40. George Latimer is well liked in Westchester County where my family and friends still live. I don't like the word
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 07:53 PM
Jun 2024

establishment used in this manner which is a smear in regards to an upstanding Democrat- George Latimer. I am progressive and I would not vote for Bowman in a primary because he didn't support a number of Democratic victories...including but not limited to infrastructure. NO Democrat should have a similar voting record to Margorie Tayler Green.

Happy Hoosier

(8,727 posts)
35. Same with the disdainful snark at "establishment Dems"
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 01:31 PM
Jun 2024

And the "Squad" types wonder why they are not convincing much of the party to support them. They don't like most of the party.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
23. Are you suggesting that George Latimer isn't a "real" Democrat?
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 05:33 AM
Jun 2024

(Hint: he’s the elected Democratic County executive).

Cha

(306,979 posts)
14. I'm sorry you lost SPM as
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 12:50 AM
Jun 2024

your Congresman, HNY.

What's he doing now.. is he out of politics?

TY.. I tried to read all that.. it's so complicate, though.

Celerity

(47,826 posts)
22. Two years after the disastrous 2022 election, everyone has moved on. Maloney now has a cushy gig in Paris as the U.S.
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 05:21 AM
Jun 2024
ambassador to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development. Jones has moved back to the suburbs and is once again running to represent NY-17. He has rebranded himself as “pragmatic” instead of “progressive” in hopes of winning enough suburban support to unseat Lawler. The Republican congressman has attempted to paint Jones as a close ally of Bowman, who himself faces a strong primary challenge from Westchester County Executive George Latimer in NY-16. [

When Jones was asked a year ago whether he would endorse Bowman, he gave an evasive answer. “As Jamaal Bowman has shown time and time again, he does not need my endorsement to defeat his primary opponents,” Jones wrote in a text message at the time. “The suggestion that he does is offensive.”

On Tuesday, Jones took his strongest step yet to distance himself from Bowman, endorsing Latimer and harshly criticizing Bowman, who has been an outspoken critic of Israel’s war in Gaza, for sowing “pain and anxiety” among Jewish New Yorkers. Aligning himself closely with Latimer, who has received more than $10 million from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee’s super PAC, may give Jones a boost in NY-17.

While there are still plenty of pictures of him and Bowman on the campaign trail together, Jones has now officially renounced any perceived allyship to the Squad – which has infuriated his erstwhile progressive allies. The Congressional Progressive Caucus PAC, which had endorsed both Bowman and Jones, rescinded its endorsement of the latter. The state WFP, which has endorsed both Bowman and Jones, announced that it would pull all support from Jones’ campaign.
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
24. My wife works with OECD for Treasury and I wouldn't describe working there as "cushy".
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 05:37 AM
Jun 2024

It’s essentially the financial equivalent of thee G20.

lapucelle

(19,700 posts)
27. It's so weird that the Congressional Progressive Caucus rescinded its endorsement.
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 06:18 AM
Jun 2024

As for the WFP, given the number of votes they need to keep their ballot line in NY, withdrawing the endorsement seems pretty short-sighted.

Nixie

(17,518 posts)
16. I really liked Sean Patrick Maloney when he was on the talk
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 01:08 AM
Jun 2024

shows. He is a great asset to our party.

That redistricting put him in a bedroom community of police and firefighters who didn't like the Defund the Police that Maloney had nothing to do with, but it was enough to defeat him. I'm not in New York, but that's what I read about his race results. Sounds like he's doing well now, though.

lapucelle

(19,700 posts)
28. We lost two seats in Nassau County because of the perception that all Democrats
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 06:43 AM
Jun 2024

endorsed that policy. And this cycle, I'm sure that there will be ads tying Democrats to the anti-Semitic activity on NYC campuses and the pro-Hamas lunacy happening at the NYC marches.



Nixie

(17,518 posts)
29. Your New York perspectives are always so valuable, lapucelle.
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 08:02 AM
Jun 2024

Two seats are a huge loss for something that is such an obvious political loser like Defund the Police. Who couldn't see how that would be used against all Democrats. Just another completely unnecessary gift for the GOP.

I think you're right about the campus "protests," too.

lapucelle

(19,700 posts)
31. If Saturday's rally is any indication of voter enthusiasm for Bowman,
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 09:47 AM
Jun 2024

then things aren't looking good.

Even though Bernie Sanders and AOC were headlining the well-publicized rally, attendance was sparse.

AOC takes the stage:

Nixie

(17,518 posts)
44. Fauxgressives is right. I would be livid if my rep voted like
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 11:07 PM
Jun 2024

Marjorie Taylor Greene, one of the GOP's dumbest freaks. His votes are inexcusable.

Thanks for posting this, LMPV!

betsuni

(27,438 posts)
46. Latimer: "the Cher of Westchester County"! Over half of his donations from the district, Bowman 10%.
Mon Jun 24, 2024, 11:27 PM
Jun 2024

So Latimer is the winner when it comes to grassroots support.

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