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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:33 AM Nov 2012

To answer your question, Allen, it's because you're an asshole.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-29/why-did-florida-fire-allen-west

Why Did Florida Fire Allen West?

By Michael C. Bender on November 29, 2012

Allen West is still surprised that Florida’s voters have kicked him out of Congress after only two years. “Why would anyone want to get rid of a person that is born and raised in the inner city, third of four generations in the military—just an American success story?” asks West, from the living room of his Palm Beach Gardens home overlooking a pool and golf course. “I’m not some guy that came from a rich political family or anything like that,” he says. “I’m just an everyday guy, but I have a passion for my country.”
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Really?

You call 80 of your colleagues Communists, you tell key Democrats to "get the hell out of America", you go off on an email rant against a colleague by calling her "vile, despicable and not a lady," you say that Obama voters are "a threat to the gene pool", you say that the sole Muslim member of Congress whom you've never even met "represents the antithesis of the principles upon which this nation was founded," you claim that people with "Coexist" bumper stickers want to give the country away, and you failed to offer a single meaningful piece of legislation in your two years of office.

I'm so glad my state removed this cancer to its legislative delegation. You have no idea.

Does. Not. Play. Well. With. Others.
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To answer your question, Allen, it's because you're an asshole. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 OP
What a psychopath. sadbear Nov 2012 #1
Wasn't even his district that rejected him. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #2
He's classic "get a free pension with health care" disorder, he did'nt want a second term. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #50
He is an ass... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #55
Totally removed from reality tularetom Nov 2012 #3
It could have been as simple as voter confusion Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #4
Good one Heather MC Nov 2012 #45
Why was that election even close? bahrbearian Nov 2012 #5
Martin County FL Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #9
If you follow West's logic about being born and in the inner city, military stint, just a regular Tutonic Nov 2012 #6
Yikes! Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #7
Don't worry, he's renting. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #8
Georgia Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #10
Not Enough Room GatorLarry Nov 2012 #12
I despise the ground he walks on! aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #11
blacks and Hispanic Republican are almost guaranteed certifiable leftlibdem420 Dec 2012 #52
I'm heaven05 Nov 2012 #13
We Floridians are a bi-polar bunch. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #16
ummm hummph heaven05 Nov 2012 #24
Ugh. secondvariety Nov 2012 #47
If by "ridiculous" you mean ridiculously awesome, I concur! Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #53
I understand the point you are trying to make.... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #18
just heaven05 Nov 2012 #20
What a douchebag LynneSin Nov 2012 #14
How long will we have to put up with stories about Allen's progress Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #15
He was fired because he is a teahadist. blackspade Nov 2012 #17
Asshole is right Eponymous Nov 2012 #19
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #22
i missed heaven05 Nov 2012 #25
A true one termer. loyalkydem Nov 2012 #21
“I’m just an everyday guy, ablamj Nov 2012 #23
Yep. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #38
Sweet catch. ChaoticTrilby Nov 2012 #48
Not just an Asshole libodem Nov 2012 #26
KNR...I think you should cut and paste your rant as a letter to Business Week joeybee12 Nov 2012 #27
I'm tempted. nt Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #39
Nice post, but one minor quibble KamaAina Nov 2012 #28
Ah, okay. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #29
He keeps a relatively low profile KamaAina Nov 2012 #32
Perhaps he should be provided with video of the things he said during his term, and then he hrmjustin Nov 2012 #30
Every Repugnant shown video of their comments and asked to explain rustydog Nov 2012 #49
Sadly yes, but he might be the kind of guy that would say there is nothing wrong with what i said. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #51
And don't forget West is an unrepentant military torturer... FailureToCommunicate Nov 2012 #31
I have thought on this a lot. jonthebru Nov 2012 #33
His problem is that he thinks everyone who votes is a teabagger. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #34
You left out the bit where vlyons Nov 2012 #35
Absolutely. Unfortunately.... Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #36
Whatever he accomplished is CANCELLED by being Cha Nov 2012 #37
And didn't he start his campaign by saying he had a higher security clearance than the president? rocktivity Nov 2012 #40
Yep, Tommy. Simple answers are often the best. hifiguy Nov 2012 #41
AMEN. I read that piece today earlier rivegauche Nov 2012 #42
Yup, but don't worry, next time ReThuglicans captures the WH they will make him UN Ambassador Up2Late Nov 2012 #43
GOOD RIDDANCE Iggy Nov 2012 #44
Florida is lucky to be rid of such an embarrassment. UtahLib Nov 2012 #46
haaaaaa....from the comments: Gabi Hayes Dec 2012 #54
Allen West vs Michelle Martin on NPR ninjanurse Dec 2012 #56
I'll have to check those out. Thanks. nt Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #58
Well, apparently he went ahead and compared himself to Abraham Lincoln. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #59
If I was a priest/doctor I would make the same recommendation Fr. Karras did... 47of74 Dec 2012 #57
Well said. Rec'd - nt Ohio Joe Dec 2012 #60

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
2. Wasn't even his district that rejected him.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:37 AM
Nov 2012

It was the district he fled to because he was too chickenshit to run for re-election in the district that originally elected him.

He's a classic case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Him self proclaiming himself an "American Success Story" is evident of that.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. Totally removed from reality
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:44 AM
Nov 2012

"born and raised in the inner city" but yet "third of four generations in the military"?

This POS has no idea what is really taking place in the world. He's spent his life in a government funded cocoon.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
4. It could have been as simple as voter confusion
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:13 AM
Nov 2012

the republicans did tell their people to vote against the black man

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
9. Martin County FL
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:30 AM
Nov 2012

is a Republican stronghold...like most of the state. Only the counties with the largest concentrations of former 'Yankees" are Blue....That they are also the largest population centers helps in presidential elections. 17 of Florida's 27 Representatives are Republicans, however.

The new district West ran in takes in a section of Palm Beach County that is very white, very wealthy and very worried about those capital gains tax rates...he won there by just 190 votes which says a lot about how disliked he is....

Tutonic

(2,522 posts)
6. If you follow West's logic about being born and in the inner city, military stint, just a regular
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:16 AM
Nov 2012

guy, you could vote to elect Hitler or Stalin. Unfortunately, the circumstances of one's birth and economic status do not always ensure moral integrity. In the case of this POS, he got lost in his circumstances of his birth and economic status.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
7. Yikes!
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:22 AM
Nov 2012

I lived in Palm Beach Gardens until 1 year ago...in the same subdivision West now graces with his charming personality (disorder).

Before mailing in his absentee ballot, my diehard republican ex-hubby called to ask about the ballot measures. I went over them with him and then we began discussing candidates. For the first time ever he split his vote. I couldn't move him off of Romney, but I persuaded him to vote for Bill Nelson and Patrick Murphy. Originally he said, "I can't vote for that screaming asshole West, so I'm writing in your name" I countered with "That is equivalent to a half vote for West, vote for Murphy so you can be rid of him." He did and is.

What is still so depressing is that West won his slice of Palm Beach County by 190 votes. St. Lucie County came through for Murphy. I hope he proves to be an excellent representative, I hate these close run elections.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
8. Don't worry, he's renting.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:24 AM
Nov 2012

He'll be taking his carpet somewhere else soon. Most likely the Fox News studios for the time being until he can find some other congressional district to curse.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
10. Georgia
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:32 AM
Nov 2012

has already made him an offer. Renting on one of the golf courses at PGA National...hmmmm. Wonder if he's been dipping into the campaign till.

GatorLarry

(55 posts)
12. Not Enough Room
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:49 AM
Nov 2012

Faux Noise doesn't have enough room for all the losers that will be angling for their place on the GOPropaganda Channel.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
11. I despise the ground he walks on!
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:36 AM
Nov 2012

Allen West and Michelle Bachman are proof that the GOP isn't filled with looney white men, but is filled with looney people of all colors, genders and backgound.

Crazy and ignorance doesn't know race and gender and circumstance, but it apparently does "know" political party.

 

leftlibdem420

(256 posts)
52. blacks and Hispanic Republican are almost guaranteed certifiable
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 12:17 AM
Dec 2012

Racism has been so endemic in the GOP since the 1970s that it takes an extremist to be more disgusted by Republican racism than Democratic liberalism. That's why so many moderate-to-conservative non-whites vote Democratic (whereas their White counterparts may vote GOP) and why the few sane Black people still in the GOP endorse Obama. Ted Cruz, Alan Keyes, Allen West, J. C. Watts, Mia Love, and Herman Cain are all as nutty as Bachmann or Demint.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
13. I'm
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:53 AM
Nov 2012

Last edited Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:59 PM - Edit history (1)

glad you got rid of that McCarthyite virus also. Now about these shootings of unarmed teenagers who just happen to be african-american. What's going on in your state there? Black confidence got some people worried? Just thinking and wondering about florida social culture. My friend almost had me ready to move, with the photos of beaches, her in her swimsuit, the fauna and flora, but naw. People seem pretty uptight there.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
16. We Floridians are a bi-polar bunch.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:15 PM
Nov 2012

We're part laid back, part uptight. Part open-minded, part bigoted. Part old, part young. (Two of the biggest out of state stereotypes of Florida are either old people in a retirement home, or young college kids partying on spring break) You can't seem to figure us out, and that's what makes us so fun. And it's not a Northern transplant versus Old Southern thing either. Some of the biggest bigots down here come straight from New York and New Jersey, and some of the most open minded people are native Floridians.

But on the whole, we're looking a lot better. We went for Obama twice, sent two Republican incumbents packing and picked up two new districts as well, knocked out the presumptive Republican speaker of the house. But thanks to the miracle of gerrymandering, our legislature is still bright red, and we still have a medicare fraud of a governor.

As Michael Scott of The Office once said, Florida is a lovely, colorful lawless swamp. I love the beauty of the state and the weather. Hate some of the politics, but it makes for great Carl Hiaasen novels. In the end wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the country (well strike that, maybe Hawaii).

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
24. ummm hummph
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:09 PM
Nov 2012

maybe I'll head west. But wait! What you described as being Florida sounds suspiciously like most of the other states of our union. Oh well I'll stay in cold michigan.

secondvariety

(1,245 posts)
47. Ugh.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:11 PM
Nov 2012

After 45 years in Florida, I'm counting the days until I leave. Ridiculous weather, the most corrupt legislature in the nation, endless sprawl.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
53. If by "ridiculous" you mean ridiculously awesome, I concur!
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 12:20 AM
Dec 2012

The legislature and the sprawl do suck royally, but are evened out by some of the more promising political developments lately and Florida's many beautiful untouched natural areas.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,362 posts)
18. I understand the point you are trying to make....
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:20 PM
Nov 2012

But does including the letters "KKK" inside the words "African American" really serve that point?

ablamj

(333 posts)
23. “I’m just an everyday guy,
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:09 PM
Nov 2012
but I have a passion for my country.”

Is he implying that the rest of the "average guys" do not have a passion for their country?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
38. Yep.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 05:08 PM
Nov 2012

One must be a self-proclamed "war hero" or the "Modern Day Harriet Tubman" to have a passion for their country, apparently.

ChaoticTrilby

(211 posts)
48. Sweet catch.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:17 PM
Nov 2012

I sensed something funny about that sentence, but you spelled it out a lot better than I would have. What an scum-bag West is. He thinks he's just a billion times better than every one of us, doesn't he?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
28. Nice post, but one minor quibble
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:19 PM
Nov 2012

Keith Ellison is not the sole Muslim member of Congress. Andre Carson (D-IN07) also professes Islam.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
32. He keeps a relatively low profile
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:27 PM
Nov 2012

so Faux never got around to attacking him. Hence, West was blissfully unaware of his existence.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
30. Perhaps he should be provided with video of the things he said during his term, and then he
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:21 PM
Nov 2012

might understand. I doubt it but you never know.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
49. Every Repugnant shown video of their comments and asked to explain
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:27 PM
Nov 2012

have claimed: The comment was taken out of context!
West would do the same.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
51. Sadly yes, but he might be the kind of guy that would say there is nothing wrong with what i said.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:36 PM
Nov 2012

He just would not get it. Fortunately the people of his district got it.

jonthebru

(1,034 posts)
33. I have thought on this a lot.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 01:27 PM
Nov 2012

You know a Republican area is, frankly, free to elect a Republican. But Allen West was probably one of the worst Representatives elected from anywhere, anytime.
There are others and it comes down to candidates that play to the teabagger and right wing tycoon constituancy, now there is diversity. No tycoon would ever put themselves in a position to be close to a teabagger. And no teabagger ever practices critical thinking in their expressions and beliefs.
Others who were reelected were Michelle Bachmann, Eric Cantor, and of course Paul Ryan, I have a feeling we will be hearing less noisy rhetoric from these clowns this session.
We really need to fix the campaign financing debacle as soon as possible.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
34. His problem is that he thinks everyone who votes is a teabagger.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 02:50 PM
Nov 2012

He was surrounded by a small but incredibly devout group of teabaggers who thought him an American hero, a great truth teller, and seriously thought he was presidential material (some even encouranging him to run in 2012).

All he heard was that praise from this small group, and it warped his deluded little mind that everyone must like him. Never mind the liberals and Democrats who he constantly insulted. Never mind independents. Never mind even more reasonably minded Republicans who knew that one of their own acting like a fool was not helpful to their party. None of these people even existed in the mind of Brave Sir Allen, at least in terms of actual human beings who vote and not just strawman caricatures.

It was the ultimate group think amongst Allen and his band of merry men.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
35. You left out the bit where
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:39 PM
Nov 2012

he put a gun next to someone's head during interrogation. That alone would disqualify him. It's not nice to torture people, and it's illegal. He should have been court marshalled, but he resigned his commission to avoid prosecution.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
36. Absolutely. Unfortunately....
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:53 PM
Nov 2012

....it was not a disqualifier for enough of the voting public when West was initially elected, although it certainly should have been without a doubt.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
40. And didn't he start his campaign by saying he had a higher security clearance than the president?
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:29 PM
Nov 2012

Worst case of battle fatigue EVER.


rocktivity

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
41. Yep, Tommy. Simple answers are often the best.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:46 PM
Nov 2012

You hit the nail squarely on the head. The guy is a raving loon.

rivegauche

(601 posts)
42. AMEN. I read that piece today earlier
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 06:58 PM
Nov 2012

and I thought the exact same thnig -- he is a total asshole, the voters understood this and said NO. He really needs to get a self-reality check some day.

Up2Late

(17,797 posts)
43. Yup, but don't worry, next time ReThuglicans captures the WH they will make him UN Ambassador
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:06 PM
Nov 2012

Crazy? Remember our never confirmed UN "ambassador" Bolton?

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
46. Florida is lucky to be rid of such an embarrassment.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:07 PM
Nov 2012

Hopefully, Floridians have had enough of these teabaggers and will be wise enough to get rid of Scott too.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
54. haaaaaa....from the comments:
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:26 AM
Dec 2012

Allen West: One part Jack Bauer...one part Clarence Thomas...one part Dave Chappelle's "Black Klansman"; not such a great political cocktail. 

ninjanurse

(93 posts)
56. Allen West vs Michelle Martin on NPR
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:03 AM
Dec 2012

During his term, Michelle Martin interviewed Allen West at least a couple of times on her radio show, 'Tell Me More'. He tried to bully her and attack her patriotism, she was very calm and never lost her cool or took the bait. I admire how she stood up.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
57. If I was a priest/doctor I would make the same recommendation Fr. Karras did...
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:32 AM
Dec 2012

Six months observation in a hospital.

Maybe an exorcism too.

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