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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPeggy Noonan: Why Can’t Obama Just Give Us What We Want?
You watch and wonder: Why does it always have to be cliffs with this president? Why is it always a high-stakes battle? Why doesnt he shrewdly re-enact Ronald Reagan, meeting, arguing and negotiating in good faith with Speaker Tip ONeill, who respected very little of what the president stood for and yet, at the end of the day and with the country in mind, could shake hands and get it done? Why is there never a sense with Mr. Obama that he understands the other guys real position?
Its not as if Mr. Boehner and the Republicans wouldnt deal. Theyve been weakened and they know it. A year ago they hoped winning the Senate and the presidency would break the stasis. They won neither. Mr. Obama not only was re-elected, it wasnt that close, it was a clean win. If the president was clear about anything throughout the campaign, it was that he wanted to raise taxes on those he calls the rich. So you might say that a majority of the American people just endorsed that move.
No one would know this better than Mr. Boehner, who has risen to where he is in part because hes good at seeing the lay of the land and admitting whats there.
So its Obamas fault for not just giving the GOP whatever it wants? How does that work? Oh yeah, I forgot! When Republicans win elections, they have unlimited political power and all must obey their dictates. When a Democrat wins, they really should just compromise with the losing minority. And by compromise they mean do everything the way we want or well bring the country to a screeching halt.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Can't think of her pompous ass any other way now.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)DreamGypsy
(2,252 posts)...a fine source of renewable energy. We have a seemingly infinite supply of such windbags.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Response to ashling (Original post)
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Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)not throwing him in the slammer, but instead he slanders him every chance he gets.
edbermac
(15,943 posts)Have a piece of cake, Peggy.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,502 posts)I just answered my own question.
whathehell
(29,086 posts)Joe Bacon
(5,165 posts)...What a snot...
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,502 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Put down the gin bottle, Peggy.
wilsonbooks
(972 posts)But she could just be an old drunk
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)once too often. She once looked down her nose at a fellow panel member and said he had a "little brain."
I haven't seen her on the show too much lately. Maybe they told her that she needed rehab before she could come back...
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)The GOP has either blocked or managed to get all of Obama's goals watered down to mere shadows of what he wanted. This has been the most obstructionist Congress in history
Now, because Obama feels he can break through that because of his huge election win, he's being inflexible now?
Give me a break
yardwork
(61,700 posts)They're pretty much left with holding their breath until they turn blue.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)..Ann ("Just stop it!" Romney.
Raine
(30,540 posts)struggle4progress
(118,332 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)You and your fellow assholes lost.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)... "want stuff" is now demanding that POTUS give them stuff?
Their hypocrisy is stunning, as usual.
tanyev
(42,601 posts)STFU.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)Cha
(297,552 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)high stakes battle with republicans? Why don't the republicans just shake hands and get it done? Why is there never a sense with the republicans that they understand the other guys' real postion?
Why can't Peggy Noonan just tell the truth?
Oh that's right, because she's a republican.
FreeBC
(403 posts)She apparently lives in a dreamland where facts don't enter.
riverbendviewgal
(4,253 posts)That Is Why they voted for him and he won..
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Volaris
(10,274 posts)that, all by his little self, he's smarter than most of the Republican Congress, that's why.
What an idiot, and thanks BTW for helping The President prove that truth, Peggy, I'm sure he appreciates it.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)ENJOY THE SCHADENFREUDE: http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2012/11/05/monday-morning/
But to the election. Who knows what to make of the weighting of the polls and the assumptions as to who will vote? Who knows the depth and breadth of each partys turnout efforts? Among the wisest words spoken this cycle were by John Dickerson of CBS News and Slate, who said, in a conversation the night before the last presidential debate, that he thought maybe the American people were quietly cooking something up, something we dont know about.
I think they are and I think its this: a Romney win.
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People are still laughing at their polling
spooky3
(34,467 posts)I wish pundits were held accountable.
Arby
(60 posts)and we should never forget...
I dont want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub. Grover Norquist
Norquist immediately replied: We will make it so that a Democrat cannot govern as a Democrat.
GROVER NORQUIST, 2003, speech at his 25th college reunion
DinahMoeHum
(21,806 posts)Whiny fool.
Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)She's an inside-the-Beltway joke, channeling the late David Broder.
union_maid
(3,502 posts)Peggy Noonan's world would be a better place. For her.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)and move on?
WTF is the matter with these people? It seems that they don't want to compromise, it's their way, or the highway with them!
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)This stupid transparency has ruined most of everything and led to gridlock
It is hilarious how the tea party has sabatoged the way senate work was always done
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS
The founding fathers never thought of 24/7/365 media, and Fox TV
(in fact, a foreinger buying media as vanity stations for his own ulterior angles was not suppose to happen.)
In fact, the founding fathers never thought of TV either
Take away the god-damned transparency of 24/7/365 media and then people could hammer out agreements like was the way it was for 200 years plus before The Drudge and Fox came to town.
When one thinks about it, one has to feel bad for the pressure all politicians in congress face every single day of the year.
Left/right/center/extremists/etc.
because it rains down on them 24/7/365
But now that the genie is out of the box, I fear we shall never have that.
IMHO of course, and you all are welcome to yours, though I don't have to agree or disagree with it.
catchnrelease
(1,945 posts)with extra palm.....
elfin
(6,262 posts)Her persona was marketable to panels and Faux in the Reagan aftermath, but she is skidding into irrelevance along with Brooks and any other leftovers from Bush Redux.
Good riddance. Cannot abide her to the extent that whenever I see her, I change the channel.
malaise
(269,157 posts)You lost big time - now STFU!
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)The problem is that Mr. Boehner is not Tip O'Neill. Tip could put partisanship aside for the good of the country, as President Obama has demonstrated time and again during his first term, only to be met with raging ideology from the other side of the aisle.
So Peggy, if you're yearning for the days of old, perhaps you should talk to the members of your own party.
NICO9000
(970 posts)Utterly, utterly delusional.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)Am I remembering that right?
ladym55
(2,577 posts)How can I miss you if you won't go away?
If I were wrong in public as often and as regularly as you are WRONG in public, I would be unemployed. But then again I'm not a Republican pundit. Apparently as a Republican pundit, you can have your head up your a$$ so far you can't see daylight, and you'll STILL be sought for an opinion.
Iggy
(1,418 posts)Please step away from the bottle of Stoli...
the GOP just got crushed in the election. that means most people want the wealthy class to pay more taxes.
end of story.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Always think they can get what they want.Reminds me of Ann Romney during election .."It's our turn "
GeorgeGist
(25,322 posts)Boehner is a lush?
Arkana
(24,347 posts)anything through Congress.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)... got this idea from:
"When Republicans win elections, they have unlimited political power and all must obey their dictates. When a Democrat wins, they really should just compromise with the losing minority. And by compromise they mean do everything the way we want or well bring the country to a screeching halt.??????
Did it come from listening to us "professional lefties" that have spoken out repeatedly about what happens when you capitulate to these assholes?
AnnieBW
(10,450 posts)We gave the Repukes what they wanted, and the economy collapsed.
BeyondGeography
(39,377 posts)Bipartisanship is date rape, remember dear?
JohnnyRingo
(18,640 posts)...they should have elected Mitt Romney.
All those Republicans want are gifts. They just want free stuff from the govt.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)or that congress is still in control by the GOP...just remind them Obama clearly won the popular vote, no supreme court had to stop the count and appoint him. I remember being told to shut up, sit down...for the good of the country, fall in line, we have our President...
well:
SHUT UP, SIT DOWN, FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY.
Resonance_Chamber
(142 posts)time to give the GOP the finger and tell them to F-Off once and for all.
The the GOP don't like it they are free to leave.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Carolina
(6,960 posts)speech writer for demon Reagan give us what we want and go the fuck away!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)the Dems are.
Suck it up, Peggy. You lost, you miserable loser. Wallow in it.