Had a further donor call today with the Biden campaign's Deputy Campaign Manager (Quentin Fulks)

[brooklynite]

Debate performance disastrous
Problem with Democratic officials – has metasticized
Debate night reinforced people’s baseline assessment. Need to get him out and show he’s capable.,

Have to keep party unity
Have to have financial resources. What donors think about this race is important
I need grassroots donor money and large donor money

Maybe we should have put the President out quicker.
Missed opportunity to rebrand Trump.
Making concerted effort to push people to be aware of Project 2025.
Need to get aware from notion he’s too scripted. More town halls Less teleprompter,

What data shows President Biden best situated to beat Trump
Bloomberg/ABC polls show race virtually tied.
Post debate poll shift didn’t go to Trump (sent to 3rd party)

Impact of French election – “it’s all online” Most googled thing. “just telling people” doesn’t have impact. Send people to our project 2025 website.

Addressing third party challengers? – we knew early on that RFK was most undefined – could have impact in Minnesota.

Plans for second debate – town halls? – President will debate for second time.

[TwilightZone]

1. "What data shows President Trump" should say President Biden, of course.

Please edit, thanks.

[SocialDemocrat61]

7. We all have harmless slip ups from time to time

Only when Biden has one do people freak out.

[TwilightZone]

8. Of course.

On both counts.

[Mme. Defarge]

18. Also,

show, not “shows”.

[madaboutharry]

2. They're ok with you posting this on DU?

[sheshe2]

23. Good question.

Was all this taken down in shorthand or recorded and then transcribed? I thought this was a private communication. Why would they permit this to be made public. I don't get it.

[TwilightZone]

3. Not arguing any of those points, but I don't really understand the quick bail by Dem officials.

I feel like they had concerns previously, and this is just an excuse to air them, but that's just a guess. Whatever the reason, it's only making things worse.

I also can't recall a single one of them providing an alternative.

[dchill]

11. Because there is no alternative.

[edisdead]

4. Why would arFK have impact in MN?

Lived here 95% of my life. Nobody here is talking about RFK.

[TwilightZone]

10. Internal polling might show RFK Jr. drawing more from Biden than Trump.

The most recent public poll (Emerson) was a few weeks ago and had Biden ahead in a head-to-head matchup (51/49) but Trump ahead if RFK Jr was considered (41/42/6). Both are within the MOE.

[Autumn]

5. Does this Quentin Fulks know who is president?

They didn't put Biden out sooner so tough shit.

[gab13by13]

14. Missed opportunity to rebrand TSF is also on Fulks.

Yeah, let's have another debate just like the last one.

I hate to say this to Mr. Fulks but even with a non-sick president that debate format is set up for failure. Allowing TSF to spew uninterrupted non-stop lies and then when it's Joe's turn and he must spend his time refuting those lies is a losing proposition.

[Autumn]

20. Any debate with trump is a losing situation. Trump doesn't fucking debate, he lies.

It's really a fucking ignorant idea to set up a second debate. It pisses me off as much and branding Biden's press confine a "big boy press conference". Who is coming up with this stuff.

[spooky3]

21. I agree. The Arizona governor refused to debate Krazi Kari

And it was a good call.

[mzmolly]

6. Where are the commercials showing Trump's 'leadership' in his

time in office?

The shove a light up your ass and inject bleach. The failed messaging on the pandemic - ripping off his mask like an idiot. Tearing migrant babies/children away from their families, huge deficit so we can pay taxes for billionaires and so on...

[quaint]

9. We need President Biden but it may be a few party officials are counterproductive.

[Happy Hoosier]

12. Thanks for the report.

I think Biden needs to debate Trump again and it's make or break. He can either put the issue to bed (mostly), or he can scupper the campaign.

He's clearly capable of doing the job, but the narrative has to be managed.

[gab13by13]

16. How does one debate a serial liar?

TSF is like the drunk at the local bar, none of us wanted to sit beside him or even talk to him because he always caught the biggest fish, shot the biggest buck, had the coldest temperature at his house. We knew better than to waste our time debating with a serial liar.

How is it a winning strategy to let TSF spew lies, uninterrupted and then have Joe spend his time refuting those lies? Joe is always on the defensive.

That drunk at the bar wanted attention, wanted someone to debate with him, he wanted someone to call him a fucking liar to get attention.

Debating TSF under that format was a hug mistake that is on Fulks.

[Happy Hoosier]

19. By calling out his lies.

It's not all that hard. Trump whithers under ridicule so Biden should mercileslly ridicule him. It's not a debate, really. It's a contest of wills, and Dark Brandon has to shine through. Biden has to be scrappy. Talk policy, sure, but he has to verbally smack Trump every chance he gets. Trump's followers LOVE that he's an asshole. They need to see him cut down to size in real time. It's that simple.

[TwilightZone]

22. "It's not all that hard" - yeah, right.

If Biden had responded to all 50'ish lies Trump told during the debate, he'd have had no time for anything else.

It's cute that people still think it would have made any difference to Trump. He would have just blathered on like he always does, giving the same tired stump speech everyone has seen a million times by now.

If you really think it would make any difference to his supporters, you haven't been paying attention the past 10 or so years. Fact-checking has never made one iota of difference to them.

[flamingdem]

13. Did anyone float the name of a possible replacement?

The MSM seems to be implying that is still in play.

[GusBob]

15. RFK anecdotal from Wisconsin

Was at a recent music festival in Wisconsin. Bluegrass so mostly 30-60 y/o caucasian crowd. The only political things I witnessed were several folks wearing Kennedy shirts and bumper stickers. Last year same festival, the SCOTUS abortion ruling came out and everyone, performers in all, were up in arms about it

Side note: this was the week to weekend of the debate and I was offline. I asked around about the debate and the reviews, well not good for our team.

[Baggies]

17. Lots of quacking ducks listed

We’ll see.

Thanks for the insight.