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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy skepticism is fueled by the fact...
That with Trump, you can never take appearances for granted. He is entire political existence has been built upon distorted reality and perceived martyrdom.
I do expect him to do everything to monetize and politically exploit this incident.
From every perspective, none of this was good for anyone.
Self Esteem
(837 posts)I don't think it's all that surprising he'd take something like this and quickly manipulate it for his image. That's just how his brain works. He was shot at, realized he was fine, but bleeding, and used it as an opportunity to show a 'tough guy' persona. THAT was his first thought. Not the concerns for others.
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Self Esteem
(837 posts)ZZenith
(4,273 posts)Trump genuinely looked shaken at first.
sop
(11,078 posts)Trump's fevered brain immediately saw an opportunity to exploit the incident. That shot of his bloodied cheek, clenched fist in the air, surrounded protectively by his Secret Service detail, will be on all campaign posters and in every fundraising email.
AZ8theist
(6,044 posts)....That's all you need to know about what 's to come.............
Self Esteem
(837 posts)Nixie
(17,300 posts)to be exploited. Send money!
EX500rider
(11,192 posts)And then the shooter has no escape plan and gets killed?
Seems unlikely to me, YMMV
ZZenith
(4,273 posts)StClone
(11,835 posts)That may be one result of today's tactical weaponry inflicted upon the populace.
ZZenith
(4,273 posts)Squaredeal
(483 posts)from his teleprompter.
Lulu KC
(3,002 posts)I posted it but took it down because I couldn't find the place where I'd read it. That would make sense.
TommyT139
(333 posts)Was it you who posted the Twitter post(s) of the person who heard it from Secret Service?
I screen capped it, but cannot for the life of me figure out how to post it here. The Twitter handle is [at]wingsandp
TommyT139
(333 posts)Lulu KC
(3,002 posts)Now I regret taking my post down, but at least know I didn't dream it.
TommyT139
(333 posts)Now to figure out how to get ethical journalists to investigate this. It's bizarre that all of a sudden Trump is assumed to be telling the truth about...anything. Instead, it's the campaign version of stolen valor, and an affront to the people who actually were shot.
StClone
(11,835 posts)StClone
(11,835 posts)TommyT139
(333 posts)It's Trump who is saying that.
wnylib
(23,501 posts)NBC has a video that shows the whole thing, from first shots to removing Trump.
A person behind Trump was hit in the head and died instantly. NBC interviewed another attendee who was standing next to the guy that was shot. Other people were wounded.
It was a real shooting and to deny it sounds like the way that MAGAs talk.
Trump will no doubt capitalize on this, but it did happen.
summer_in_TX
(3,019 posts)Where did that come from, the teleprompter?
Doodley
(9,785 posts)onenote
(43,813 posts)SlimJimmy
(3,246 posts)SS Counter Sniper Team is highly trained and never miss. The shooter never had a chance.
58Sunliner
(4,932 posts)SlimJimmy
(3,246 posts)He fired once and hit his target. But feel free to play word games.
58Sunliner
(4,932 posts)CBS says he fired 6-8 rounds.
SlimJimmy
(3,246 posts)He fired once and hit his target. But feel free to play word games.
Iwasthere
(3,271 posts)EX500rider
(11,192 posts)JustAnotherGen
(32,953 posts)Since I gave up Twitter. Thank you for weighing in.
RandomNumbers
(18,047 posts)(not meaning the shooter)
Also someone was seriously injured.
This is all very, very bad.
One could hope that some good might come, like some minds changing about gun control. Not holding my breath on that one.
a kennedy
(31,274 posts)DAMN GUNS.
JoseBalow
(4,255 posts)JustAnotherGen
(32,953 posts)The people flipping off the camera? They won't change.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,764 posts)CrispyQ
(37,503 posts)CoopersDad
(2,670 posts)If as many shots as were heard were aimed at him, somebody behind him would likely have been hit.
Thanks in advance for any additional info.
Self Esteem
(837 posts)emulatorloo
(45,448 posts)Link to tweet
Tweeter is WAPO
bluestarone
(17,823 posts)He WILL lie, cheat, and take full advantage of this type of an event. He will be on MSM everyday until after the Nov. election. THIS will be huge for him and his cultists. We will have to work a million times harder, while being VERY CAREFUL ourselves.Please watch what you do shopping and be ready for anything. THEY ARE CRAZY.
Codifer
(691 posts)Reichstag Fire?
SomedayKindaLove
(810 posts)Seems almost unbelievable as it is just so happens to be framed by an upside down American flag.
calimary
(83,367 posts)How could ANY OF US help thinking that?
I'm already wondering how much of a sympathetic character this will turn trump into?
DAngelo136
(296 posts)Let's all take it on face value. Some knucklehead decided to take matters in his own hands and do something extremely stupid.
If he isn't dead already, he'll have the library, not the book thrown at him and rightfully so.
Of course, Trump will wave the bloody shirt and this will excite the base. But the fact remains that all he has is his base.
Nothing has changed; he still wants to be a dictator, he still is a liar, a convicted felon and an adjudicated rapist. And Project 2025 is still his. While I wouldn't cry tears over his demise, I would want it to come while he is broke, bankrupted and incarcerated.
So, let's keep our heads while others around us are losing theirs. Keep our eyes on the prize and keep hammering away at him despite the pity party he's going to attempt to throw and the blame he's going to try to put on Joe and the Democrats.
dflprincess
(28,339 posts)Not to mention the dictators he likes to pal around with.
My friend commented the whole thing makes her think of the movie "The Shooter", only the patsy didn't get away today.
yorkster
(2,125 posts)Don't get me wrong. This is terrible news.
But watching the replay for the first time was surreal. It all seemed like a Stephen King scenario.
BonnieJW
(2,437 posts)He'll cut into pieces an sell them, like the suit.
Nululu
(911 posts)CNN reports shots outside venue from height. Shooter possibly killed by counter-snipers.
Hieronymus Phact
(466 posts)This wipes away the self immolation of the Democrats from the news. That's the last thing they wanted. trump was doing good laying low as Democrats did his work for him. Now Biden's age is last weeks news, the conversation is on gun violence or political extremism or whatever. That doesn't help them.
dflprincess
(28,339 posts)allegorical oracle
(2,706 posts)Hieronymus Phact
(466 posts)But the new Story of the Cycle is not good ground for them either. and can be tied to their own violent rhetoric including that project 2025 video where that guy's threatening "the left" with violence.
Frank D. Lincoln
(264 posts)...after a respectful pause, of course.
Something that occurs to me is that the apparent assassination attempt on Trump might make him even more dangerous if he does regain power. One of Trump's most defining characteristics is vindictiveness. This incident might fuel his rage against everyone on the political left.
I want to learn what motivated the shooter. What set him off.
paleotn
(18,684 posts)Writing about Biden's age at this point would be a dead give away that many of the reporters are actually AI bots that haven't yet had the shooting programmed.
Brodog
(2 posts)I have several things that need to be answered,
I want the medical report revealed and not by ronnie johnson.
Between three to seven shots were reported fired, was anyone else shot. Hard to believe no one else was shot in such an enclosed are with that many shots fired.
Find the bullets that were supposedly fire. No problem for CSI in such a small area.
I just don't trust or believe trump. When I see the above information then a decision will be made.
allegorical oracle
(2,706 posts)wnylib
(23,501 posts)and died instantly. He was in the direct line between the shooter and Trump according to a witness who was next to the guy who died. NBC interviewed the witness. If not for the guy who was killed, that bullet would have been a direct hit to Trump's head.
People in crowds move around. Quite possibly the guy who died had just shifted his position when the shooter fired. Also, Trump had turned his head to the right. If not, he might have been hit in the back of the head instead of the ear.
The witness who was interviewed said that he is a doctor and offered to help with the wounded people, but there was a doctor on hand for the rally, so the witness helped carry away the dead body. Said the dead man's family was there and hysterical, in shock. A woman nearby was hit in the hand and arm.
CaptainTruth
(7,067 posts)StClone
(11,835 posts)Hekate
(93,378 posts)Warpy
(112,684 posts)because the GOP loves their guns and loonies are his people.
moondust
(20,282 posts)Beware of retribution.
luvtheGWN
(1,343 posts)And certainly not nearly as much as it appeared to be on trumps ear, according to video shown on cnn.
Hmmmm
StClone
(11,835 posts)...vote Trump vote more madness.
dawn5651
(633 posts)teleprompter was hit and it was a piece of glass that hit the ear.
littlemissmartypants
(23,644 posts)Also, I read a comment by someone who was there saying that he was hit by shards of glass from one of the teleprompters. Plus, one spectator is deceased and two were injured with no medical disposition mentioned.
There were multiple shots from the S.S. and it was one of the members from the uniformed support troops that traveled with the entourage who "neutralized" the shooter.
That's all I'm aware of, time marches on.
Thanks for the thread, Mr. Scorpio.
MrWowWow
(244 posts)or even try to sell cast reproductions of his "shot" ear?
misanthrope
(7,877 posts)is go get a truckload of dirt-cheap, second-hand suits and cut them all into fragments to then all be sold to his cult members who are gullible enough to believe they own a piece of history.
raising2moredems
(690 posts)We'll likely never know the details - 3D gun or not. Unexpected shard hitting the TFOT which scared the living shit out of him. Secret Service agents who didn't a) cover him or b) drag his sorry corpulent body away so fast he had no time for his photo ops.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,814 posts)Trump does not have any and his supporters have very little makes, it very hard to give them the benefit of this doubt in this situation.
What is this "Fight" garbage, we need an accounting from SS people about that and his photo op, why is he having a photo op w/flag during his take down time. also he was EXPOSED multiple times during this scene and we have press just running around shooting photo's. Tons of people including his deluded fans didn't act at ALL like this was an emergency and that is a HUGE PROBLEM !!!
*** I watched the interview of the man who alerted police to the shooter on the roof and he was blown off by them or not taken seriously and this was several minutes before the shooting started ?????
My sympathy goes out to the family of the rally person killed.
****Trump has been inciting violence at his rallies for years, you got to wonder when KARMA would come for him...
Lastly we only have one president, it is Joe Biden, Dipshit is the Former President needs to always be referred to as such at all times by all media (fox included ) so as not to confuse the public...