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Local Pittsburgh News WPXI: Crooks motive is still unclear. Records show he is a registered Republican and neighbors today told us that theyve actually seen Trump signs outside of the home over the last few years
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dalton99a
(87,741 posts)intrepidity
(8,219 posts)And maybe that waa part of the motive?
sinkingfeeling
(54,823 posts)MagickMuffin
(17,523 posts)And Im not talking about his kids!
soandso
(1,631 posts)it's obvious he didn't share their opinion!
JHB
(37,613 posts)Still all guesswork at this point.
Deminpenn
(16,678 posts)Mom reportedly a Dem.
SCantiGOP
(14,418 posts)That only means that you cant vote in other partys primaries.
Deminpenn
(16,678 posts)Allegheny county. You probably have to be a true believer to register as an L. While I think Americans all have a latent libertarian streak, few subscribe to the entire libertarian belief system.
Warpy
(113,132 posts)What we know specifically about the kid is that he was a shy kid, an outsider, and heavily bullied and thought guns were the answer. We know he died wearing a t-shirt from one of the more pernicious gun & bomb sites on YouTube.
I'm seeing this more as suicide by cop. I have no idea what his attitude toward TFG was, or if he thought about him, at all, except as a means to go out in glory and a hail of bullets.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)the biggest bully in the country!
i see motive there, if no one else does...
onlyadream
(2,233 posts)this may have been a school shooting instead.
Rhiannon12866
(231,276 posts)
Orrex
(64,940 posts)BannonsLiver
(19,025 posts)There is a small strain of far right loonies who think Trump is too soft or may have supported him at one point but now feel betrayed because the wall wasnt built, fill in the blank. We could probably sit here all night and come up with hundreds of potential motives, though.
Think. Again.
(22,330 posts)Bengus81
(8,532 posts)Think. Again.
(22,330 posts)rubbersole
(9,616 posts)Just a few people knew this and he had to save the world.
🤪
Scrivener7
(54,997 posts)subsequently shot by SS. And the convicted felon sustains a minor injury, poses for a photo op, and no medical report is forthcoming. On the eve of the convention.
Suggests something smelly, no?
Kaleva
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Kaleva
(39,102 posts)I bet you don't.
He might have been but I haven't seen anything that proves he was.
IbogaProject
(4,195 posts)That is all we really have, along with he registered R at a general election, no primary votes.
JoseBalow
(7,117 posts)PatrickforB
(15,195 posts)Ocelot II
(123,950 posts)So often these shooters are young, messed-up guys who have some imaginary or unknown personal grudge or want to do something that will ensure they will be noticed and remembered. It appears that Crooks intended to shoot a lot of people and not just Trump, but shooting Trump as part of the show would ensure he got even more attention than all those school shooters put together (since obviously shooting 30 kids isn't as big a deal as putting a scratch on Trump's ear). The fact that there were Trump signs on his front lawn indicated that one or both parents were supporters; maybe he wanted to shoot Trump just to piss off his parents. Since he didn't have a social media presence that we know of, we might never know (unless his parents know and eventually talk about it).
allegorical oracle
(4,456 posts)be doing social media. Parent/s wouldn't allow? Truly feel sorry for his family.
rubbersole
(9,616 posts)Sogo
(6,153 posts)This thread from yesterday caught my attention, and I've been waiting to see if anything comes out to indicate the social media post is real. I think it tells a lot if it is....
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19152216
LisaM
(29,086 posts)Don Quixote complex.
I'm sorry, but look at all the movies and video games that play in to this "quest" nonsense. I am sick of it.
Think. Again.
(22,330 posts)senseandsensibility
(21,543 posts)either? Gosh, things aren't looking good for the blame the left crowd.
MustLoveBeagles
(13,157 posts)BoRaGard
(4,721 posts)as is all violence.
Tickle
(3,791 posts)a job and he got pissed. Then wondered how he could get back at his father.... 🧐
Wingus Dingus
(8,892 posts)Apparently he was a good employee. But no mention of college for what was a very smart young man--kind of strange.
senseandsensibility
(21,543 posts)from a local community college. I can't remember the exact subject, but I think it was Math related.
Wingus Dingus
(8,892 posts)Lulu KC
(7,643 posts)It was engineering-related. He was supposed to transfer to four-year college in the fall.
ffr
(23,161 posts)Patsy.
Lucky Luciano
(11,597 posts)He might have tried this if it were Biden doing a stump speech and it could be that the bottom line is that he wanted to be a famous shooter doing something epic.
He does fit the school shooter profile.
PatrickforB
(15,195 posts)they said he was bullied really badly all through High School.
RockRaven
(17,109 posts)shootings are not about academics/education. IOW, maybe this shooting at a political rally was about shooting rather than politics.
PatrickforB
(15,195 posts)So, the guy is a registered Republican, and had Trump signs, but then forms a half baked, insane plan to assassinate Trump. Why?
And why did that police sniper seem to have the guy in his sights, and yet let him squeeze off at least one shot before taking him out?
And why in the heck didn't the Secret Service have their own sniper on that very same roof?
I doubt we will ever know this guy's actual motive.
Kaleva
(39,102 posts)He might have been a supporter of Trump. He might have been a supporter of Nikki Haley or some other Republican. Or he could be someone like my wife who is registered to vote but cares little for politics
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Doodley
(10,652 posts)bucolic_frolic
(49,516 posts)mn9driver
(4,691 posts)I imagine the shooter didnt put the signs up, but signs and guns would certainly indicate a Trumpy household.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,867 posts)ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)No way he keeps them after one of his purchases was used this way.
maxsolomon
(36,182 posts)We don't.
Kaleva
(39,102 posts)Because that's interesting info! Thanks in advance!
mn9driver
(4,691 posts)It looks like the articles that stated that have been modified to say more than a dozen guns.
Kaleva
(39,102 posts)ForgedCrank
(2,592 posts)would TOTALLY explain why he tried to murder him. He was a supporter.
?
geez
Kaleva
(39,102 posts)JI7
(91,655 posts)ecstatic
(34,703 posts)Theory 1: Beginning or full blown psychosis -- hearing voices that instruct him on what to do.
Theory 2: His mom or sister expressed concern over the threat that trump poses so he did what he did to defend his mom and the country.
ColinC
(11,098 posts)Kaleva
(39,102 posts)Article doesn't say it was the shooter himself that had put Trump signs in the yard of his parents who he lived with
Linda ladeewolf
(814 posts)The Epstein report and saw how many times trumps name was mentioned. If he knew someone whod been abused maybe he was getting revenge on their behalf?
wishstar
(5,671 posts)SpankMe
(3,425 posts)"Neighbors say". Plus, others lived in the house. No photo evidence.
Not sure we should be making hay out of this factoid.