Gallup Editor-In-Chief: Romney Support 'Collapsing' Nationally (TPM)

[RandySF]

Gallup’s Editor-in-chief Frank Newport appeared on MSNBC to talk about the polling organization’s national tracking poll of the GOP primary race, which is changing rapidly in the last few days of the campaign for South Carolina. Newport said when their new data comes out at 1 pm eastern, “…we’ll see this gap closing more. Romney was up 23 points over Newt Gingrich. Now it will be down about ten points, so clearly things are collapsing.”

The Gallup tracking poll showed a huge lead for Romney after winning the New Hampshire primary and it seemed that he was on the way to locking down the nomination. Now that Newt Gingrich has resurged in South Carolina, and taken the media narrative along with him, Romney is faltering nationally.

“We have seen more movement, more roller coaster kind of effect this year than any other Republican primary in our history of tracking,” Newport said. “I think anything is possible. It wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibility if Romney recovers. We’ll wait and see.”

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/4378?ref=fpa

[Proud Liberal Dem]

1. The GOP establishment better hope Romney recovers

otherwise they know that they'll be royally screwed if they have to put up with Gingrich as their nominee in November. Not that I care.

[Arugula Latte]

2. They've got nothin' but a big bucket o' suck.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

6. Hey GOP: embrace the suck!!!

and have a nice day!

[roguevalley]

39. I love that. :-D The longer Newt lasts the more Romney will die out.

I can't tell you how much I enjoy this.

[Cali_Democrat]

3. They're going to do everything they can to prop up Willard

Things just got mighty interesting....

[Proud Liberal Dem]

10. Oh yeah!!!

Enjoy the show!

[Liberal_in_LA]

30. agreed.

[wtmusic]

4. Gingrich will be the nominee, and he will put up a serious challenge

despite all of his liabilities. His resilience, political savvy, and determination are amazing.

Obama could take a lesson.

[WI_DEM]

7. Obama has pretty good political skills himself and ultimately if Gingrich were the nominee

(and he won't be) he will be a very weak general election candidate.

[wtmusic]

8. All part of the plan.

He is talking tough to establish his base. Then he will move center for the general election.

Mark my words, and don't underestimate him.

[Zalatix]

12. It'll be up to Obama and all of us to remind America of Gingrich's positions as they are now.

And then compare them to his flip-flops later.

[wtmusic]

15. With the collective memory of 300 million goldfish

the American public isn't seriously distracted by flip-flops.

In Newt they see leadership, and it will be a serious asset regardless of the fact he's a complete imbecile.

[Inuca]

21. Your commenst are not very consistent

For one thing, Gingrich is many things, most of them unpleasant to the extreme, but he most definitely is not an imbecile. You yourself were mentioning some of his qualities a few posts upthread.

[wtmusic]

22. From a policy standpoint, yes he's an imbecile.

So was Dubya - who we were burdened with for two successive terms.

[AlbertCat]

44. who we were burdened with for two successive terms.

Neither of which he actually won.

[Zalatix]

24. I didn't see the inconsistency you saw

Being a policy imbecile is one thing, being able to bullshit the American people is another issue altogether.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

18. I make it a point to never underestimate the power of the dark side

I think we all learned that painful lesson with GWB but Newt has so much baggage, not to mention insane ideas (think his idea of having children clean bathrooms in order to get rid of "overpaid" janitors is going to be popular with a lot of people) that I can't imagine- absent a national lobotomy- a majority electing him POTUS. He'll be guaranteed southern states, sure, but not much else. He could (and would likely be) this century's Goldwater. Him moving back to the "center" for the GE is not going to be as easy for Newt as it will be for, say, Romney, whom most people know as the "moderate" ex-governor of deep-blue Massachusetts. Newt's history in Congress should disavow anybody of the idea that he is close to being moderate or "centrist" enough for the general electorate. Let's just say, that, it would be more LIKELY for him to crash and burn in the GE than not.

[wtmusic]

20. Hope you're right. nt

[roguevalley]

40. women won't vote for him. Gays won't. Minorities won't.

he will get McCain's demographic. Angry white men and dipshit faux libertarian adolescent white boys.

[muriel_volestrangler]

42. Even McCain had demographic advantages over him

McCain could get the "vote for a military veteran" vote, especially with his time as a PoW (and his refusal to get special treatment, which was genuinely admirable). Gingrich is open to chickenhawk attacks.

[AlbertCat]

45. Even McCain had demographic advantages over him

Yes. Even janitors would vote for McCain.

[RZM]

48. That's only part of the story

Obama won women overall, but actually lost white women by about 7 points. A better description of McCain's voters would simply be 'white people.' He won over 50 percent of white men and women and 55 percent of the total white vote.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1083335/Breakdown-demographics-reveals-black-voters-swept-Obama-White-House.html

[Proud Liberal Dem]

9. He's too wild and unpredictable

not too mention plain nasty in the style of Rush Limbaugh. IMHO the moderates and indies will quickly get turned off to him (if they aren't already). He is, however, as somebody here at DU mentioned the other day, the perfect representation of the "modern" GOP.

[wtmusic]

13. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=191719

[Arugula Latte]

16. Gingrich is one of the least likable Republicans out there, and that is saying something.

[phleshdef]

14. BS. Barack Obama has taken on way bigger machines than any Newt Gingrich could put together.

He doesn't need any "lessons" from anyone on campaigning.

[stockholmer]

34. Obama may not need 'lessons' on campaigning, but he surely does on governing as a progressive.

Which IS what he campaigned as, not the bankster-corporate enabler he has so far shown that he unfortunately is.

His second term (which only a major economic downturn can prevent, IMHO) will either be where he finally starts acting in the majority of Americans' interests (I truly hope this is the case, but most assuredly I am not holding my breath), or one where he truly, unabashedly lets loose the systemic tyranny via left-cover, leaving behind the wailing and gnashing of teeth of dupes on the left twice-fooled by his false fronts and half-measures.

It is truly a shame (as well as a scathing indictment of the sham 2-party system that America suffers under) that a nation of 310 million people cannot come up with better men or women to choose from as chief executive of the nation than these 5 left standing.

[phleshdef]

36. LOL. I love the arrogance. Pretending as if you are fit to give or suggest a lesson for Obama on...

...anything.

I'm a progressive. But I'm not in denial and I'm not naive. This is not a dominantly progressive country. This is a centrist country. We have a mostly centrist government and have for some time. Its a mixture of progressives, moderates and conservatives. When one is President, they have to govern along the lines of the government the American people give them to work with. Thats just reality, whether you or I like it or not.

Barack Obama is a liberal person governing as a left of center moderate. Because thats the way it has to be. If you don't like it, go elect 60 Bernie Sanders clones to the Senate. Though you know all too well thats not happening. You would be better off to open your eyes and admit that there are many Americans that do not see things the progressive way and whether you like it or not, their voices are just as powerful and valuable as yours. Thats the world as it is, not the world as you want it to be in your deepest fantasies.

[stockholmer]

38. your attitude is so disempowering it takes my breath away. I truly am grateful we do not think this

way here in Sweden. Also, btw, how come when it is a Republican, many times with a hostile congress, not only do they make massive lurches to the right in terms of agenda, but are accorded a penumbra of Machiavellian evilness and power by those on your so-called left for doing so. YET when a Democrat fails to govern from the left and instead enables a corporatist agenda with a few 'progressive trinkets' tossed on top for appeasement, people such as yourself drone on about either 'it's centrist country' OR 'its the fucking Republicans in congress' (even when the Dems are in charge of both houses)? You cannot have it both ways, no matter how much you jump up and down for the pony.

Bottom line:

The world would be a far better place with 60 Bernie Sanders clones in the US Senate than 60 Barack Obama clones. Same goes for POTUS.

Life is too short to stop being idealistic, and true leaders can shape and change a nation for the better, not just resign themselves to limited, ineffectual change due to an inherent, predetermined admission that they are handcuffed by their perceptions of systemic projections of the powerful.

[phleshdef]

41. Bwahahaha "Machiavellian evilness".

Sorry, I stopped taking you remotely serious after that line. I just can't read such pretentious keyboard warriordom with a straight face.

America is nothing like Sweden. And its not going to be anytime soon.

And the fact is, the vast majority of self identified Democrats and self identified liberals highly approve of Barack Obama. Thats reflected in every single poll where they gauge ideology. Thats the political culture. By modern American standards, Barack Obama is delivering in the view of most liberal voters here. And since we live here and vote here, what we think matters a whole lot more than what you think.

[stockholmer]

54. Have a good meal from the agenda that is delivered, I fear it won't be too tasty. So far it reeks of

many promises broken and an underlying corporatist control paradigm on the march. There is nothing 'pretentious' in what I write, it just so happens that you disagree with it.

The mass media there has so skewed perceptions and ideologies that (as you put it) "Barack Obama is delivering in the view of most liberal voters here" is sadly a punchline to a bad joke.

[JackRiddler]

43. I love what you've written and of course it deserves responses of...

far higher caliber, especially if one is to disagree, than what you're getting.

It's "always win, never back down, by any means" argumentation, also known as sophistry. (Also, you must remember this site is open to age 13 and up. And that even a lot of 60-year-olds haven't achieved that as a mental age.)

[AlbertCat]

47. We have a mostly centrist government and have for some time

I take it you weren't born until the 80's.


This is NOT centrist! Believe me.

[phleshdef]

53. By modern standards of American ideology, it most certainly is.

What "centrist" meant 30 years ago or 80 years ago is irrelevant. Ideology is somewhat subjective in that regard.

[yellowcanine]

17. Resilience and determination, yes. Political savvy, not so sure. Gingrich clearly has a lot of

political skills, but he is vulnerable to making major blunders and miscalculations. These then tend to dominate the news for several days - weeks and his message gets stepped on. Pluse there is the baggage. Someone with that baggage and who can barely go a week without stepping in dung is not going to seriously challenge a cool cucumber and incumbent President like Obama.

[Mojorabbit]

23. I agree. It would be a big mistake to discount Gingrich. nt

[WI_DEM]

5. Romney is the glass ceiling, glass jaw, trojan horse candidate

[Cali_Democrat]

26. He's definitely a trojan horse....a "gift" from the banksters. n/t

[Scuba]

11. Poor timing for Mitt. Just not the year to run on the "I'm the 1%" platform.

[MACARD]

51. mit isn't just on the 1% platform he is on the .1% platform

his speaking fees alone put him in the 1% no the 1% not in the .1% to him are Poor waifs, that are holding out cups hoping to get some cash, and mitt Romney will look down on them and Cringe, consider giving them a penny to help, then take all the money they have left, and clothes and run off with them.

Romney is in that group that the Sociologist so Aptly named the Owning class which is that top .1% who have their own secret club play poker waging businesses, and pass the seat of CEO between each other. the Owning Class is an exclusive group that only Old money is allowed in, and you have to be one of the 100,000 richest men in America, or the child of such.

[Motown_Johnny]

19. argh, this is happening about 8 months early

oh well, ROBME or Gingrich I don't think itis going to matter

They are both unelectable

[Dirty Socialist]

25. Anyone Like Spike Jones?

And the winner of the 2012 GOP nomination for President is...

BEETLEBOMB

[louis-t]

27. I really, really, really hope Gingooch wins.

He is the perfect example of what repugs stand for. The world will see what a mean, unpresidential, undiplomatic, ornery, self-centered, egotist son of a bitch he really is.

I forgot to add 'un-American'.

[cpwm17]

37. And I'll add: smug, arrogant, pseudo intellectual, hypocritical, corrupt, evil, and dumb

One can keep going on this stuff.

[MACARD]

52. add Racist, Sexist, Elitist, Fascist, Bigot, self-righteous, Bible Thumping, Ego-maniacal, Ignorant

your right one can go on. but note the fact that Gingrich believes he is of the superior race, no beyond that he believes he is of a different breed, HOMO SAPIENS GINGRICHIUS. and he of this breed was ordained by god to be ruler of the world. Starting with the United States Imperial Order of Gingrich, shall he lead the nation to defeat the corrupting influences of Black people, Islam, and disobedient Women.

[wilt the stilt]

28. We could have a first mistress

How's that for family values?

[AlbertCat]

49. We could have a first mistress

More like a third mistress




This election (which is all-repug so far) is such an embarrassing joke, I can't talk about it seriously.

[bowens43]

29. I am stunned by this

I have had no doubt that Romney....I thought it was predetermined.

who would be easier for obama to beat mitt or newt?

I used to think it would be newt but after the crowd reactions in sc , I'm not so sure

[Iliyah]

31. Mittens will be

the nominee for the goppers, no doubt on that, and Newt will probably be one of the attack dogs against Pres O for the party. Newt is just plain mean and doesn't care about how he is perceived because he believes in his sick mind that he is right.

When a person or group of persons truly believe in what they believe to be right, nothing will sway them. For the tea brats they truly believe that their "God" gives them permission to be utterly evil because in their minds its ok. History repeats itself. Several groups I shall name (1) KKK; (2) Nazis.

[AlbertCat]

50. Several groups I shall name (1) KKK; (2) Nazis.

(3) US Government in Iraq/ Vietnam

[bullwinkle428]

32. He really thought he could get away with the arrogant "Richie Rich" routine

all the way to Inauguration Day!

He might have, too, if it wasn't for those meddling kids!

[Dawson Leery]

33. Could a brokered convention happen for the GOP this summer?

[stockholmer]

35. If Gingrich trounces Romney in SC and Romney barely eeks out Florida, that possibilty increases

So many of the GOP primaries are not 'winner-take-all', they are proportional in delegate allotment. Gingrich is unelectable in all but a few nightmare scenarios ('black swan' US economic collapse in Q2 or Q3, massive false-flag terror attacks inside the US, assassination(s), huge, brand-new scandal of instantly clear guilt on Obama's or Biden's part, etc).

Romney, in a protracted primarily battle may become so utterly damaged that even the GOP establishment gives up on him, especially given his tepid support from the right, and his Mormon background (his ultimate, mostly heretofore unspoken of Achille's heel to the traditional Christian bigots on all side of the US political spectrum). At that point, a brokered convention rears it BushCo-driven head, and Jeb, Christie, or General Petraeus come to the fore. If there is an ongoing Iran war, and it is going badly on a multitude of fronts, Petraeus's stock surges.

[Thrill]

46. Not surprised. He reeked of pompous prick

last night during that debate. pompous prick