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We need unity now, Biden is OUR candidate that WE voted for.
We need to fight fascism/trump, not ourselves.
Doc Sportello
(7,892 posts)Or shut his fucking mouth.
kacekwl
(7,300 posts)I just saw Elizabeth Warren on the View. This is what EVERY democratic should be doing. Show me what you are doing to win the presidency and congress not doom and gloom behind closed doors.
Emile
(27,611 posts)Johonny
(21,592 posts)A lot of us wouldn't have voted for him if we knew he wasn't going to support Biden.
Zilli
(240 posts)I voted for Katie and if this is true I will write in Katie Porter for Senator from California. Presenting a false front and behind the scenes talking trash, not an admirable trait, if true.
Polly Hennessey
(7,192 posts)Response to Zilli (Reply #19)
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58Sunliner
(4,933 posts)Otherwise it's a vote for republicans. Revenge voting will not get us a majority.
I agree...He's the last person I thought would turn against our Joe. I'm pretty disgusted... I'll vote for him just to get senate majority, but I'm not donating to his campaign..
we can do it
(12,690 posts)We must all hang together, or we will certainly hang separately.
JohnSJ
(94,774 posts)fmdaddio
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Calling
will call.
quaint
(3,209 posts)Trueblue Texan
(2,713 posts)I found myself envying the fact that you guys have a Democratic senator you can call and complain to. I just have that sorry assed Ted Cruz and John Cornyn who I stopped writing and calling years ago because its just a complete waste of time and effort. Then it occurred to me that this is why Dems so often are shooting themselves in the footbecause we stand up for what we believe in a put our money where our mouth is. But how else are we going to take our country back if we dont put pressure on our elected leaders and teach them not to take our support for granted. Its classic Catch-22. One that Republicans never have to wrestle with.
Takket
(22,356 posts)People will believe whatever you tell him. Just come out and say Biden is our guy and hes fine and were all behind him. Thats all. But its awfully hard for voters to be confident in a candidate if WE are not confident in that candidate.
somaticexperiencing
(521 posts)who think he is a brainiac. Mind you, he is plenty smart. That doesn't mean you have all the answers. That doesn't mean you can brainiac your way out of everything.
Joe Biden is the nominee. To even get someone else in there you need to convince him or create a messy fight and hostile extraction. Good luck with that one. Talk about de-motivating even the base.
The base is with Joe Biden. The people who voted for him are with Joe Biden. Anyone with a lick of sense should be for Joe Biden. So many people are aligned against Trump and what he stands for and who he is. Kamala Harris is the excellent person who would take charge if and when necessary. Joe Biden has made a series of formidable excellent appearances, including the rally last week in Detroit which spells out blueprints and formulas and positive schticks to win.
What is the problem?
Polls and media and public opinion skewed by the media. Do you even realize how firmly the media is not centered on truth these days but only that which gets them ratings. And that means Trump. The media truly is not our friend.
Those of us who are true Democrats will long remember those who fought alongside us and those who stab us in the back.
Tread very carefully, Mr. Schiiff and those like you.
Messaging and unity are the things Democrats should be concentrating on. Not even Trump or any other dumpster fire of suspicious origin.
SomedayKindaLove
(832 posts)Dude is tougher than some are giving him credit.
LakeArenal
(29,537 posts)No one should comment on looks however.
Thanks.
Sogo
(5,537 posts)if they come out against Biden.
Walleye
(33,891 posts)DFW
(55,908 posts)He wasnt called the poorest Senator for decades for nothing. When he was in the Senate, if he wasnt commuting back and forth from Wilmington to DC, he would often sleep on a couch in his office. Biden was NEVER in this for himself. He sure didnt own any fancy properties which profited from hundreds of thousands per month in taxpayer-funded travel expense money flowing into their cash registers, like a certain immediate predecessor of his that I could name.
Walleye
(33,891 posts)And if I recall correctly, he never even owned stock the whole time he was in the Senate. People who are portraying him as power-hungry dont know the first thing about him.
Zilli
(240 posts)GoreWon2000
(752 posts)The rest of us have everything to lose and we're standing with Joe because he understands that.
jmbar2
(5,831 posts)Tertullian
(62 posts)It's infuriating.
GoreWon2000
(752 posts)and remind them that we the people run the Democratic party and not a few wealthy, mostly privileged white anglo men. I think I've contacted most of the anti democracy Congressional dems and reminded them of this. I've also told them that they're copying the 5 GOP SCOTUS judges who took our votes away in 2000. Now SCOTUS judge Samuel Alito is exhibit A of that disaster.
we can do it
(12,690 posts)I thought him smashing fellow dems in the primary was supposed to prevent this.
More fucking stupidity.
Walleye
(33,891 posts)He is being worse than not helpful here
sdfernando
(5,237 posts)and I will let them know that I stopped sending funds to Sen. Feinstein, whom he is replacing, because of her votes to support the Iraq war....so it was quite a long time she didn't get money from me. He needs to support our ticket 100% or he will make me regret supporting him in the primary.
wryter2000
(47,100 posts)Did you call his congressional office or his campaign?
Emile
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Done.
Tarzanrock
(312 posts)and told the person answering the phone to tell Schiff that one of his constitutients called and left this message: Support President Biden or I will never give him another dime. I was told that my message would be delivered to the Congressman.
LoisB
(7,974 posts)support President Biden. We need to defeat donald trump, not ourselves."
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)Adam Schiff is one of the best, if not THE best, Democrats in this country. He's earned his input. It's your money and it's OK if you don't wish to donate to him, but what are you gaining here by trying to hurt hm?
And to top it all off, he just might prove correct.
we can do it
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I dont care how smart he thinks he is.
The devisive shit needs to stop.
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)That's a non-starter for me.
Suppose our beloved Joe, whom I really admire and respect, would have had a stroke on stage. Would we have still been bound by the "will of the voters"?
I am 100% confident that Adam Schiff wants what's best for the Democratic Party and for the future of this country. It doesn't help us to try to hurt him.
we can do it
(12,690 posts)Fetterman had a stroke, Bernie had a heart attack and NONE of this shit was spewed.
I am sick of it.
relayerbob
(6,880 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,144 posts)wnylib
(23,613 posts)Sounds like fear mongering. Anything could happen to anyone.
Since it didn't happen, the will of the voters still holds.
ucrdem
(15,700 posts)Dan
(3,910 posts)
stroke on stage
.
And even in the event that he were do die
. Thinking about it.
Regardless of when the if event were to occur
. You support the ticket. Do you think that getting someone else on the ballot for the Democratic Party would be easy at this stage? Think of the confusion, the disarray.
All the psych-ops people need are a few non-voters because of indecision or confusion, as someone said elections are won on the margins.
Im with Joe until the last vote is counted and then some.
The idea of the chaos that result from a Trump presidency damn near makes me crap in my pants.
wryter2000
(47,100 posts)Trying to get him to STOP.
we can do it
(12,690 posts)we can do it
(12,690 posts)Goodheart
(5,760 posts)As for myself I see it as a highly intelligent, highly loyal, highly respected Democrat voicing an opinion on what should be the future of this Party.
Doc Sportello
(7,892 posts)Stabbing Biden in the back is not loyalty. Pulling that shit on Porter did not demonstrate loyalty to another Democrat. He can voice any opinion he wants but when he does it in public and it ends up in the NYT it only hurts Biden. And as for respect, well he has lost a lot of it.
i like katie and i'm not in cali~
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)Not to any particular person.
Doc Sportello
(7,892 posts)Biden's the candidate. To say he is loyal to an agenda is ridiculous when he undermines candidates. But he is loyal to one particular person: himself.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Adam Shiff is NOT THE ISSUE. FUCK ADAM SHIFF...
TRUMP vs BIDEN...THAT IS THE ISSUE.
we can do it
(12,690 posts)travelingthrulife
(275 posts)You knew Biden was old then.
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)who are itching to expel.
Emile
(27,611 posts)Goodheart
(5,760 posts)Emile
(27,611 posts)relayerbob
(6,880 posts)Meanwhile, if Biden steps away, the odds we lose INCREASES dramatically. Do you think the press will just give it a pass? We'll have four months of "Democrats in crisis" and "Democrats in disarray" and MUCH worse on the person who replaces him ... and it could only be Kamala. Stick a white man in there and you lose the black vote and a good chunk of the women's vote.
we can do it
(12,690 posts)relayerbob
(6,880 posts)Or, maybe SChiff should accept that he hasn't read history and isn't competent and drop out for Katie Porter.
Meanwhile, I'm giving the dollars that would be going to the coward caucus to Biden and those who support him (AOC, Frost, etc.)
we can do it
(12,690 posts)Skittles
(156,940 posts)yup
obamanut2012
(27,382 posts)So, that usually means YES.
I stated the same thing -- no donations for Senate from me going forward.
Polybius
(16,854 posts)Has he publicly commented?
we can do it
(12,690 posts)ucrdem
(15,700 posts)Native
(6,091 posts)obamanut2012
(27,382 posts)They did know I am a Californian and voted in the Democratic Primary.
we can do it
(12,690 posts)BadgerMom
(2,915 posts)GoreWon2000
(752 posts)She'll probably land herself a high paying job with Big Pharma. Schiff should be focused on keeping the Senate seat for the dems instead of trying to disenfranchise 14 million dem party primary voters.
Turbineguy
(38,077 posts)They said they were sorry to see me go. I was too. I used to have a very high regard for Adam Schiff.
bigtree
(88,781 posts)...I wonder if these people intend to keep bashing our nominee after it's made official?
Tarzanrock
(312 posts)and fully and unequivocally support President Joe Biden. It's also past time for every Democrat politician to step up to the plate and support our President. You don't defeat Nazis with quisling Democrats who bizarrely think or believe that a Vichy government with the Nazis is acceptable.
relayerbob
(6,880 posts)Told them it's easy to fix the problem. Find the nearest camera and tell them he supports our President 100% and the NY Times is lying. If he can't do that, then they aren't.
Joinfortmill
(15,758 posts)Response to we can do it (Original post)
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Hekate
(93,492 posts)I am committed to Adam Schiff. I have donated to him and will again. I have watched his career in the House and want him to be my Senator.
Have any in this pile-on actually donated, or is this one of those hollow promises made so frequently here in fits of pique? Have you thought of calling or writing with a well-reasoned retort?
Never mind. Just, never mind.
we can do it
(12,690 posts)ucrdem
(15,700 posts)hlthe2b
(104,909 posts)So, I will remain cautious and hopeful that others will too.
we can do it
(12,690 posts)hlthe2b
(104,909 posts)To suggest that they are absolutely obligated to become aware, respond, and deny everything said about them or else you are free and justified to conclude it is true sounds a bit like a QAnon approach to "truth." Surely we Dems can do better than that.
we can do it
(12,690 posts)hlthe2b
(104,909 posts)Just because I asked you to provide proof of your assertion that an anonymous article is truthfully implicating one of our most loyal Congressmen (soon to be Senator) as going after Biden behind the scenes... If he is you should be able to provide evidence for those accusations. Instead you prefer to attack me. Attacking Schiff without proof, given he is our Senatorial candidate is no better (nor more permissable on DU-- after the primaries) than doing so against our candidate, President Biden.
we can do it
(12,690 posts)Neither he nor his office deny saying it. This is not an attack- the paper of record NYT reported it. Not a middle school paper in Wasilla. Why would his campaign/ office allow this to slide if not true? Most campaigns have had rapid response teams for over a decade.
We are still waiting.
we can do it
(12,690 posts)hlthe2b
(104,909 posts)we can do it
(12,690 posts)Deek1935
(1,055 posts)quaint
(3,209 posts)stollen
(468 posts)Everyone on the J6 Committe is.
demgrrrll
(3,593 posts)I told them I had donated in the past but would not donate again until he is completely behind Joe Biden.
quaint
(3,209 posts)Katy 949-668-6600
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...it you're going to talk about not donating, you need to call his campaign office.
druidity33
(6,515 posts)so i asked her this question. She absolutely would have forwarded the message to the appropriate staffer. She would have logged the response (like all other responses and calls)... and her boss at the end of the day would ask her about calls. So i don't really know what you're talking about.
BigmanPigman
(52,129 posts)in DC for our local Dem Scott Peters (who is now NOT standing with Biden). She said the same thing as you. That is one reason I use the telephone instead of writing. Schiff makes my current total of House Dems is 22 and the Senate Dems is 5.
Hekate
(93,492 posts)we can do it
(12,690 posts)Emile
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Buttoneer
(488 posts)stand"
XRubicon
(2,231 posts)I am trying to stay neutral now. In a few weeks we will all need to rally around the nominee. I will join you in trashing anyone who is not on board then.
AntiFascist
(12,838 posts)Dems need to throw all of our support behind Biden/Harris as a united front. Biden and Harris need to be (and mostly have been) presenting their positions as a seamless platform. When and if it is ever time for Biden to step down, it will be his decision, and the transition should then be seamless.
Those calling for Biden to step down seem to have an ulterior motive to nominate someone other than Harris. This might be a good idea to position the nominee for 2028, but it is too late for 2024 and we will have to suffer through Trump/Vance in the meantime.
renthalwinston
(18 posts)Shiff is a traitor to our president . He has a duty to stand with the current leadership.. scoundrel he is..
Maru Kitteh
(28,716 posts)I am ridin' with Biden - but I will NOT hate natural allies for having a different opinion when WE ALL JUST WANT TO WIN because of what looms ahead.
Trump is a cult. We are not.
usonian
(12,273 posts)I WANT WINNERS.
Joe and Kamala.
Not a freakin Bach Cantata.
Durch Adams Fall ist ganz verderbt
Menschlich Natur und Wesen
Through Adams fall human nature
and character is completely corrupted
Mz Pip
(27,675 posts)I expected more of Schiff. Biden isnt quitting. Hes our nominee. Division at this point, isnt helpful.
we can do it
(12,690 posts)we can do it
(12,690 posts)Never again not a cent.