Was Trump struck by a bullet or a shard of glass from the teleprompter?

[skip fox]

This speculation is not an off-the-wall conspiracy theory. It was made by Michael Steele on X (see below).

It doesn't make much difference but it might bring the Trump/Christ/Hero narrative back to earth.

(If so, I'm sure Trump is trying to hide the fact.)




Here's Michael Steele on X:
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Why are we not hearing from the doctors who treated him?

You would think someone would inquire about Trump’s medical report if for no other reason than Trump has not provided any medical updates or information, neither has the hospital that treated him. Outside of Trump telling us he’s “fine”, how severe was the wound? Did he loose part of his ear (bullets do terrible things to flesh)? How long for recovery? Will the wound require cosmetic surgery? What about reports that it may not have been a bullet which wounded him but glass from the shattered teleprompter? If I missed such reports from his campaign or the hospital please post. Thank you.

[BoRaGard]

1. State Secret, russian style

"So shut up, sit down, and stop asking nosy questions."
If you know what's good for you. - G.O.P.

[Prairie Gates]

5. "It's Trump's right not to release it!!!!"

The guy was the King of the Birthers for goodness sake!

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

36. Also, remember how Trump hollered that he wanted to see Obama's transcripts?

Meanwhile, his college grades were locked away from view.

[BootinUp]

2. Agreed. Very good chance he was hit by same debris as the officers

around him were reported to have been hit by.

[Prairie Gates]

3. Don't get caught up in the teleprompter

There was lots of debris flying around that is known to have caused injuries around Trump. It's not "bullet or teleprompter glass," but "bullet or debris." The teleprompters looked undamaged, for what it's worth, which you're going to hear about 100 times below...

[TwilightZone]

31. "you're going to hear about 100 times below..."

As it should be. It's become quite clear that people are just posting shit at this point and haven't reviewed the pictures, haven't reviewed the video, haven't read any of the news stories. Or they're just trolling. It's beyond tiresome that people insist on being intentionally ignorant.

[AkFemDem]

4. I don't think it matters

Someone tried to kill him, he was injured in the process, he says he's feeling fine- nothing in the photos indicates his head was hit so whatever the cosmetic damage to the ear, it's clearly not going to be life threatening. Doctor's won't speak unless he asks them to- doctor-patient confidentiality and all that. If he were an elected official and incapacitated there would be an expectation they release certain information but they're not going to do a press conference for a private citizen to announce whether his ear lobe needed stitches or not.

[hlthe2b]

6. Yes... A distinction without a difference and only makes us look like grasping conspiracy theorists...

It has been amptly established that he was shot at. Had there not been bystanders wounded and killed, it might make sense to question. But now, it only makes us look desperate.

[BootinUp]

10. Its an attempt to steal his narrative/expose a lie. Not worth spending too much time on

but worth a shot or two.

[hlthe2b]

12. No. It can only backfire on us.

[BootinUp]

15. I don't think anyone much cares what you OR I think. Lets be honest.

[hlthe2b]

19. The media would love nothing more than to highlight this (and the expected outrage by wounded and dead family members)

if this keeps being echoed on the pundit shows. If you don't think there would be intense blowback if those family members expressed outrage towards "uncaring DEMS who are denying their loved ones, much less Trump--the former President that they revere-- were the victims of a horrific shooting" you are not considering the tactics of the RW media and the sympathies for same by the naive MSM.

[BootinUp]

20. Well, you are totally distorting what is being said. If your point is that it WOULD be distorted

you make a good point. Otherwise I think you don't understand something? No one is saying it is just fine and dandy to shoot a gun at a rally as long as only debris takes out an eye or an ear.

[hlthe2b]

22. Yes, of course I am saying how it would be distorted. REALLY, BootinUP?

I find it offensive that you think I am that stupid not to realize what our own are TRYING to say. I am being realistic as to how it would be portrayed and thus backfire on us! It would only spur outrage towards DEMS and sympathy support for TSF and his injured/killed supporters. It doesn't make a bit of difference whether it was debris or a bullet. The incident is well documented as has been the deadly risks. To argue otherwise is just damned foolish.

[BootinUp]

24. Concern/Offense how about less of all that. I am going to work and not thinking about

this conversation.

[hlthe2b]

26. Have a nice day...

but perhaps think about the tactics that the RW is already using against us and how we most effectively counter them (or at least not give them the "ammunition" to do so)

[marble falls]

13. It's a mole hill looking for a mountain. We shouldn't be feeding it. Like you said: he was shot at, doesn't matter ...

... what hit him.

[yardwork]

27. Agreed.

[FakeNoose]

46. So why the secrecy? Why is Chump's campaign manager threatening to fire anybody

... who talks to the press or tries to be an undercover leaker?

We aren't conspiracy theorists here so much as we are intelligent people who are deeply tired of all the constant lies swirling around Donald Chump.

You can bet that if Biden were grazed by an assault rifle, there would be demands for complete medical reports from all over, including the outrage machine at the RNC.

[Joe Cool]

7. He was't struck by anything

It's obvious from the leaked call with RFK Jr that the bullet did not actually hit him but rather just got close enough to cause damage.

[Blues Heron]

16. how does that work - air pressure?

[Joe Cool]

25. There's some debate over

whether a bullet doesn’t actually strike but still causes damage.
If the bullet struck Trump, it barely grazed him, that’s for sure.

[MichMan]

37. OK.................

"He was't struck by anything"

"If the bullet struck Trump, it barely grazed him, that’s for sure."

[Joe Cool]

38. Posting two lines out of context means what?

[sarisataka]

45. Bullets that miss- miss

There is no "close enough to cause damage"

[Glorfindel]

8. HIPAA

Hospitals and medical professionals cannot disclose patients' medical records. Chances are, Trump has forbidden any discussion of his "delicate condition."

[marble falls]

9. Either way, it's time to get over it. Let FBI and SS take care of it.

[Blues Heron]

18. its a message board - speculation is our bread and butter.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

30. Factless speculation damages our cause. DU is noted by outside observers for sticking to facts and reality. . . . nt

[Blues Heron]

34. It's always concerning when people try to squelch discussion of important topics

[Bernardo de La Paz]

39. Factless speculation is not the best discussion. Exactly what injured in assassination attempt not very important

Pressure tRump to release the medical records.

Speculating without them is fine, but attempting to hang a narrative on imagined things (shattered teleprompters for example) when there is clear evidence otherwise is a losing play.

[muriel_volestrangler]

51. Oh, you're "concerned" now, are you?

Disproving a silly speculation is not "squelching" it. If someone had taken a photo of this "shattered teleprompter", it might be worth talking about. But instead, people have spent 4 days talking about a phantom teleprompter.

Why would it matter if there had been a teleprompter involved? Does that mean the guy in the crowd didn't die? Does it mean that the shooter was actually aiming at the teleprompter? Tell us why this topic is "important".

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. There is NO "shattered teleprompter". Bullet grazes are grazes, not like centre-on exploding apple cores

Earlobes are flexible cartilage. They don't have bone to transmit shockwaves. A nick on the ear takes out a little chunk and the earlobe bends back without shattering.

Everybody thinks of the photos of bullets penetrating and exploding apples and watermelons. Those photos are all made with centre-on gunshots, completely unlike a graze. Apples and watermelons have stiff innards that transmit the shock waves. A direct head-on hit's energy has nowhere to go except forward through the mass. When it reaches the exit hole of the bullet it reaches a new weak point and everything energized is released out through the breech.

Plastic and wood debris are shards that slice through skin but do not take chunks out.

The photographs of the ear, showing a bit of white cartilage and a strand of hair, and of the bullet in flight just past his ear are all consistent with the video.

That tRump has not released his medical records of the incident is puzzling but only leads to conjecture and is not evidence. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

[doc03]

14. I think if Trump was really hit by a bullet he would be demanding a

doctor confirm it. That would play right into the tough guy image the MAGA cult has. "Nobody could ever survive
a gunshot wound like I did". "They tried to take me out but failed". "My heroes weren't captured; you have to be shot
to be a hero". I suppose he will be if not already selling tee shirts or something with that photo on them.

[Prairie Gates]

17. As he said to RFK Jr., "it's a very tough gun, right?"

Yeesh.

[duncang]

21. Main thing

He was facing right. The teleprompter was to his left and behind. It looked like it would have had to curve around his head to hit his ear.

Main thing is he was shot at. Whether debris or bullet I’m sure will come out later. Expecting a definitive answer right now is not going to happen. Investigations don’t happen overnight especially when it will be questioned no matter what. If they goof up and rush out a finding that is proven wrong later people will be screaming.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

33. He faced left. He was looking front, then turned to his right, which is the left of the stage

The teleprompter in question (neither was hit) was on his right (the left from front audience and videos viewpoints).

The shooter was from his right. The building was on his right. The shot came from his right. The photo of the bullet in flight is on his left after it passed and nicked his ear.

[duncang]

56. He was facing to his right.

Stage left. Right now I’m not going say it was a definitely a bullet or debris until there’s a report. I do think it was a bullet. But will wait.

[Goodheart]

23. Either way, he almost died for YOU.

He is your redemption, remember? He was chosen by God to save you.

So it is written, so it shall be.

[TwilightZone]

28. Zero evidence it was from the teleprompter.

Seriously, people, just stop. We don't need a dozen of these threads a day.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bullet-glass-trump-wound/

Pictures show both teleprompters fully intact.

https://www.npr.org/sections/the-picture-show/2024/07/14/g-s1-10096/photos-see-how-trump-rally-shooting-unfolded

[Takket]

42. +1. I don't know why people keep asking this

Occam’s razor applies here.

[canetoad]

29. This is the first diagram/infographic I've seen

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13642155/Trump-crook-cellphone-transmitter-shooter-rally-assassin.html
It's from the Daily Mail, so make what you will of it. From another graphic further down the page, the distance from the shooter to Trump was 433 feet. It looks like Corey Comperatore (fire chief) was killed about three quarters of the way to trump or approx. 325 feet. If he was shot dead at ground level, the shot(s) fell short by a long way.

There's been mention of the shooter's several shots - some of which missed and others that hit other people and the fact that the bullets kicked up some debris which I guess could be wood, concrete chips and other materials. This is what I believe hit trump's ear. Not 'a bullet piercing his flesh'.

[Think. Again.]

32. I just don't see how that matters to anything....

...other than maybe the nra trying to claim he wasn't hit by THEIR products!

[TwilightZone]

35. Michael Steele says whatever it takes to jack people up.

That's basically his job. Contribute to the narrative that MSNBC wants to sell.

It doesn't make him a reliable narrator. He's simply wrong here, and probably intentionally so.

[kansasobama]

40. Teleprompter story is not good for DUers

Let us get away from this. Otherwise, DU will look like fringe. Yes, he needs to release report. There is a chance Trump is overdoing this. We don't want shooting, period. This also means no violence against George Floyd, Capitol police, against Pelosi husband, as Biden said.

For all we know, it looks more like a MAGA who got pissed about something Trump did.

Fact is still fact. Trump is a would be dictator . Vote him out at the ballot box.

[Historic NY]

41. In a few day the maxi-pad on his ear will be gone and any last in damage will be visible.

[Fiendish Thingy]

43. I don't GAF

It’s a time wasting distraction from our goal of defeating Trump in November.

[orthoclad]

44. Not a HIPAA issue

This was a crime.
The extent and type of injury are legal records. This could determine the charges leveled against the shooter.
Oh right. He's dead. He doesn't need charges.

But the report on the injury should be a court record.

[Jose Garcia]

47. It was a controlled demolition

[LetMyPeopleVote]

48. Was Trump hit by a bullet or not? Calls mount for campaign to release medical records

The fact that none of TFG's doctors have discussed this event or released any records is a big problem. The American public deserves to know the facts. What is TFG hiding?

Link to tweet

https://www.alternet.org/msn/trump-bullet/

Critics are calling for Donald Trump’s campaign to release his medical records in the wake of Saturday’s attempted assassination, noting that no physician has gone on record to give the American people any information, which some are saying is a lack of transparency.

Trump has stated he was wounded by the shooter’s bullet, but reports have also stated the bleeding on his right ear was from shards of glass from his teleprompter.

“Trump has posted that his ear was pierced by a bullet, but the sad fact is that he’s an unreliable source. News organizations need to wait for more credible confirmation of what happened,” wrote journalist Steven Beschloss on Saturday.

“Why haven’t we heard from the medical staff or others confirming whether Trump was or wasn’t hit by a bullet?” he asked Monday, adding, “If indeed Trump was cut by a piece of glass, then all the talk that he was shot is factually wrong. This needs to be clarified by the authorities involved, no matter whether it contradicts the Trump narrative.”

Investigative journalist Jonathan Greenberg on Monday asked, “What is Trump hiding?”

[VGNonly]

49. He was hit by fragments

of an exploding Big Mac.

[LudwigPastorius]

50. Trump's noggin was in between the teleprompters and the clipped ear.

[Attilatheblond]

52. leaning toward 'seared by heat of close passing bullet' myself

[GoCubsGo]

53. Or, did he scratch himself with his own fingernail?

I suspect that this is an attempt to hide the fact that there wasn't much of a wound to treat, and nothing for him to milk to death for sympathy.

[The Roux Comes First]

54. It Seems Quite Likely His Bone Spurs Got Loose and Migrated to What Passes for a Head

No chance imo that the scratch was caused by a bullet.

[rsdsharp]

55. What possible difference does it make?

If he was struck by a glass shard, it’s because the glass was struck by a bullet. Glass doesn’t spontaneously shatter. There’s no such thing as random pieces of glass just flying through the air.