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PikaBlue

(361 posts)
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 02:30 AM Jul 2024

Bribery, Extortion, Quid Pro Quo, Election Interference?

Can someone explain to me why the donors who are threatening to withhold funding from elected Democratic representatives are not engaging in bribery, extortion, election interference, and Quid Pro Quo? Yes, donors may fund the candidates of their choice or may choose not to donate based upon benefits to themselves. In this case, however, they are asking currently serving members of our government, including the President of the United States, to nullify the results of a legitimate primary election. It's one thing to say "I won't donate to you unless you promise not to vote for any legislation that will raise my taxes". It seems a totally different ballgame to offer money in exchange for an elected and currently serving member of congress to pressure the President not to fulfill his commitment to seek re-election after he has won the primary election. Furthermore, how do these big tech donors KNOW President Biden will not win unless they have a plan in place to interfere with the election process or tamper with voting machines, or the electronic calculation or transfer of voting results? I really don't understand any of this. As President Biden now has immunity for official acts, shouldn't he safeguard our democracy by having the DOJ open investigations into these so-called " donors" who are attempting to overturn a primary election using threats/extortion? We need to know who is behind this and whether foreign governments are also involved this attempted election interference.

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Bribery, Extortion, Quid Pro Quo, Election Interference? (Original Post) PikaBlue Jul 2024 OP
They're not buying official acts or votes or legislation or even clauses within some bill unblock Jul 2024 #1
AOC explains DoBW Jul 2024 #2
There is only few reasons most donors give money to parties, PAC's and candidates. Big Blue Marble Jul 2024 #3
Thank You PikaBlue Jul 2024 #4

unblock

(55,443 posts)
1. They're not buying official acts or votes or legislation or even clauses within some bill
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 02:44 AM
Jul 2024

They're just buying public statements, and they're not trying to invalidate the primaries, just encouraging Biden to voluntarily step aside. Nothing illegal going on.

Reprehensible, perhaps.

Stupid, yes, incredibly so.

Contrary to the spirit of democracy, for sure.

But not illegal.

DoBW

(2,651 posts)
2. AOC explains
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 02:51 AM
Jul 2024

"Congresswoman AOC Spills The Tea" is title of her deep dive on YouTube . Cuts through the crap

Big Blue Marble

(5,634 posts)
3. There is only few reasons most donors give money to parties, PAC's and candidates.
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 02:54 AM
Jul 2024

They are buying access, influence and ultimately control. They only want to give millions
of dollars when they reasonably believe the candidate will win. They only donate when there is
a reasonable expectation their money will actually buy what they want.

You can disagree with their assessment, but to go beyond that into bribery and extortion
is going to far. And to suggest that the President should misuse his power to influence
DOJ is beyond the pale.

PikaBlue

(361 posts)
4. Thank You
Sat Jul 20, 2024, 03:21 AM
Jul 2024

Thank you for explaining why these activities are within legal bounds. I wasn't suggesting our President misuse or abuse his power. I was asking in the event that these donor "recommendations" were illegal that an investigation take place. At this early hour I undoubtedly failed to present my thoughts coherently. My heart breaks for our President. What a burden this decision must be for him and what a loss it my be for the country if he chooses to step down.

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