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dalton99a

(89,376 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 08:17 AM Jul 2024

JD Vance repeatedly indicated in 2016 that he believed Donald Trump had committed sexual assault

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/23/politics/kfile-jd-vance-believed-donald-trump-sexual-assault-allegations-2016/index.html

JD Vance repeatedly indicated in 2016 that he believed Donald Trump had committed sexual assault
By Em Steck and Andrew Kaczynski, CNN
Published 4:00 AM EDT, Tue July 23, 2024

(CNN) - Ohio Sen. JD Vance, the Republican vice presidential nominee, repeatedly indicated in 2016 that he believed Donald Trump had committed sexual assault, even suggesting in one TV segment that in a “he said, she said” situation Trump was less credible than one of his accusers.

Vance appeared on a MSNBC segment in October 2016 on Trump’s alleged sexual misconduct in which an interview with Jessica Leeds, a former salesperson who accused Trump of groping and forcibly kissing her during a flight in the 1970s, was played. Vance said it was hard to believe Trump’s denials over Leeds.

“At a fundamental level, this is sort of a ‘he said, she said,’ right? And at the end of the day, do you believe Donald Trump, who always tells the truth? Just kidding,” said Vance sarcastically. “Or do you believe that woman on that tape?” he said, referring to Leeds.

But by May 2023, in a sign of his shift on Trump from open critic to fiercely loyal surrogate, Vance’s position changed entirely while invoking similar language: Vance said he believed his “friend” Trump, just after the former president was found liable by a jury for sexual abuse against author E. Jean Carroll.

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"Now the pussy-grabbing rapist is my bestest friend EVER!"

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sop

(15,156 posts)
4. Democrats won't need oppo-research, just run unedited videos of Vance when he wasn't a Trump ass-kisser.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 08:46 AM
Jul 2024

How will JD explain away all the shit he said about Trump in the past? Simple, corporate media will never even mention it. They'll be too busy combing through 2020 primary debate videos looking for things Kamala said about Biden.

karynnj

(60,395 posts)
6. Maybe that is why he grew the ugly beard ... so people would not recognize the younger JD
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 08:54 AM
Jul 2024

It would be great if he was called on that and the Hitler comment.

JI7

(92,309 posts)
2. This issue in general needs to be brought up more. I feel like we are getting too defensive about the attacks on Harris
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 08:27 AM
Jul 2024

Yes, we should defend her and other women but it's becoming too much like we have to justify it.

All while Trump's behavior is not being mentioned.

sop

(15,156 posts)
5. You're right, Democrats tend to go into a defensive crouch when Republicans bring up issues of race and gender.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 08:52 AM
Jul 2024

The best defense is always a strong offense, and there's so much in Trump's background to be offensive about.

karynnj

(60,395 posts)
7. Maybe one response could be that she is proud to be a woman, person of color and a former prosecutor
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 08:57 AM
Jul 2024

and she understands that is a combination that is Trump's worse nightmare.

Cyberologist

(40 posts)
8. Vance has said a whole lot about tRump
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 09:03 AM
Jul 2024

"I can't stomach Trump."

" I think he's noxious and leading the white working class to a very dark place."

"Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation' highest office."

"I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical ** or that he is America's Hitler."

Johonny

(24,130 posts)
9. Trump has been proven to have committed
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 09:12 AM
Jul 2024

Sexual assault in court. GOP voters don't care. They like abusing women. Apparently. There is nothing to like about Trump. Nothing.

marble falls

(66,989 posts)
11. That was then and this is now. Vance is as about as evil as simple mindedness gets. He's just going with the ...
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 09:49 AM
Jul 2024

... flow. And like the French police official in Casablanca said, " ... right now the prevailing winds come from Vichy!"

eppur_se_muova

(39,408 posts)
13. He still does -- but he always considered it a plus.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 12:21 PM
Jul 2024

Vance is just the type you'd expect to admire a sexual predator.

intheflow

(29,619 posts)
14. He's such an evil shapeshifter, insincere af.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 05:14 PM
Jul 2024

Trump could not have picked a worse running mate. Chosen exclusively for his youth and willingness to endlessly expose himself as a huckster and shameless opportunist. They thought no one would notice that last part.

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