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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMake no mistake about what J.D. Vance did yesterday in his speech.
He said that VP Kamala Harris never showed any "gratitude" and wasn't "grateful" enough about America.
This is racist bullshit that racists white people say about black people all the time. We all know that.
He then went on to say: "All she did was collect a government check for the past 20 years."
Say that out loud to yourself: "All she did was collect a government check for the past 20 years."
Here is the translation: He was calling VP Kamala Harris, and by extension black women, "welfare queens."
I have a slogan that the republicans should adopt: No Dog Whistles, Only Megaphones!

Solly Mack
(94,982 posts)BonnieJW
(2,890 posts)Collects a government check. What did he do as a marine? Collected a government check.
Solly Mack
(94,982 posts)cheats.
Vance is one of those "white makes right" folks.
COL Mustard
(7,385 posts)Buttigieg as her running mate...someone else who wore the uniform and faced hostile fire.
Dulcinea
(8,391 posts)JD will have to debate Secretary Pete. Wouldn't miss that for the world. Pete will turn JD into roadkill.
Solly Mack
(94,982 posts)stage left
(3,072 posts)anybody who would be better. So smart.
babylonsister
(172,084 posts)Exactly, Solly, and so many of them think that way.
Exciting times.
Solly Mack
(94,982 posts)Well, for the Trump/Vance kind of excitement anyway.
Hey, babylonsister!
czarjak
(12,807 posts)Or wrong? Doesn't matter, their end game.
YoshidaYui
(43,712 posts)white supremacist to me
Solly Mack
(94,982 posts)mucifer
(25,172 posts)It works now.
yardwork
(66,627 posts)They've got nothing.
PCIntern
(27,342 posts)Layzeebeaver
(1,942 posts)PCIntern
(27,342 posts)Hes a Yalie.
Layzeebeaver
(1,942 posts)sop
(14,267 posts)Ron DeSantis, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Brett Kavanaugh....the list of Yalies who misused their educations is long.
Second only to Harvard.
The Roux Comes First
(1,703 posts)The Roux Comes First
(1,703 posts)PCIntern
(27,342 posts)And a cheerleader there if I recall correctly!
Cha
(310,927 posts)which, of course, tells us.. It doesn't matter if they get degrees at Prestigeous Universities.. they can still be Viciously Dumb and spitting snake venom.
And then there's brilliant people like Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Hillary who use their intelligence for the Betterment the Planet.
The Wandering Harper
(915 posts)we were on welfare during much of my childhood.
Sure as heck weren't living like royalty
spanone
(139,090 posts)Layzeebeaver
(1,942 posts)spanone
(139,090 posts)Towlie
(5,507 posts)they're already off the rails now they're going to be working their way through the weeds and the swamp all the way to the deep blue sea, and may their party drown in it.
Botany
(74,181 posts)Top of her class @ Howard
@ on near the top of her class @ U.C. Berkeley Law School
Assistant D.A. Alameda County
D.A. Alameda County
Private Practice Law
Assistant D.A. San Francisco County
D.A. San Francisco County
A.G. State of California
U.S. Senator for California
Vice President of the United States
madaboutharry
(41,904 posts)She went to law school at U.C. Hastings.
Hastings is in San Francisco. It's a great UC school. But it's a different school from Berkeley.
Botany
(74,181 posts)I knew it was U.C. and I thought it was Berkeley.
Dear_Prudence
(855 posts)When I was a kid, the brightest kids were called "The cream of the crop." That makes those students among the best select few, while 'near the top' sounds too much like 'a near miss." So, I recommend listing Kamala a "the cream of the crop" at the law school.
Marcuse
(8,416 posts)LaMouffette
(2,498 posts)them all.
Plus, isn't he in the process of applying for a government job?
God, he's dumb. And a racist dog-whistler.
madaboutharry
(41,904 posts)He is collecting a government check now! He is a jackass.
LaMouffette
(2,498 posts)COL Mustard
(7,385 posts)He was a jackass long before he was in the Senate.
Freethinker65
(11,194 posts)He wrote a mediocre book and got pumped with BS from a conservative think tank and somehow, with only that experience (and lots of financial backing from groomers), got elected to be a Senator from Ohio. He obviously didn't get elected because he was a critical thinker. What an idiot.
Botany
(74,181 posts)
who lost by 30 points which pulled down Tim Ryan and 3 excellent Ohio Supreme Court
Candidates too. Ohio has also become ground zero for disinformation and right wing/christo
fascist shit. We also had lots of uneducated racists too.
modrepub
(3,838 posts)Like Mitch McConnell who have been government employed for their entire careers? You'd figure some journalist with an ounce of integrity would ask Vance about that in public, right?
CousinIT
(11,368 posts)And a welfare queen.
We was in college, became a lawyer, a state prosecutor, AG of California, Senator, and then VP.
Those "government checks" are what put Vance's ass through college. He is the one who ought to show some goddamned gratitude.
And "uppity"? That little weasel is the walking epitome of that!
musclecar6
(1,884 posts)He'll appeal to all the racists, gay bashers, mysoginist's, women haters, etc.
tetedur
(1,252 posts)At least he didn't call her a whore yet. They are selling a fuck Biden t-shirt that does.
TheDemsshouldhireme
(208 posts)saying she slept her way up with Willie Brown. Its Trump, he lives in the sewer.
CrispyQ
(39,665 posts)I read a great article yesterday how Trump was so certain Biden would never drop out. He literally couldn't imagine Biden dropping out cuz he would never drop out, so against the advice of some of his campaign, they went all in on blitzing Biden & did hardly anything about Harris. Convention speakers asked the campaign, should I mention Harris, & they were instructed, no focus on Biden. Apparently Trump was stunned when Biden dropped out.
I think it was an article in The Atlantic.
Mariana
(15,529 posts)Because all of those people were going to vote for him anyway.
Irish_Dem
(69,790 posts)She is smart and charismatic enough to have made good money in the private sector.
But she chose the hard slog of being a prosecutor and AG.
She fought hard for the people of California for years.
What the H has Vance done?
lastlib
(25,934 posts)...and would continue to do as VP. He is their investment. If TCF were to cross the Stygian river, Sofa-Boy would be their golden goose.
Irish_Dem
(69,790 posts)Selling himself for cash.
COL Mustard
(7,385 posts)But he did serve in the military, in a combat zone. That ought to count for something.
Irish_Dem
(69,790 posts)U.S. Marine Corps, where he served from 2003 to 2007 as a combat correspondent, with six months in Iraq.
COL Mustard
(7,385 posts)Than I have. I was in the Army for over two years after 9/11. I fully expected to get sent someplace but it didnt happen.
Irish_Dem
(69,790 posts)It could have happened. One day you are stateside, next day heading out to parts unknown.
pfitz59
(11,490 posts)That Elon Musk and Peter Thiel can buy. He is their puppet.
lapfog_1
(30,871 posts)maybe a decade ago... sitting down at the table with my sister, her husband, and her 4 adult children. They were all budding MAGAts at the time. And the pre-dinner conversation turned to politics and they all sat there and slammed the "freeloaders" and do nothing government workers... etc.
For the sake of peace in the family I said nothing.
7 adults at the table include myself.
All 6 of the complainers were getting money from the government. My Brother-in-law was getting thousands a month in a disability checks, one of the kids worked as a sheriff's deputy for the county, another worked as an IT worker for the state university, another one was in the military ( Navy ), and the last kid worked for a private company but she worked on a government grant to study a new drug from a big pharma. and even my sister was getting money for a job that had mass mailing contracts for the federal government. Every LAST one of them was doing a job that directly or indirectly was being paid by the government.
I will never understand these people.
canuckledragger
(1,992 posts)They're hypocrites to the extreme, because it's different for them when they mooch from the government in one form or another.
Paul Ryan comes to mind, whose rich family wouldn't be so rich without the government contracts they depend on, along with him using his father's government pension survivor's benefits to put himself through school, and having his family home declared a heritage site so that the government would pay for it's upkeep. Absolute hypocrite, and greedy, seeing how hard he worked to take away the opportunities he benefited from away from everyone else.
whathehell
(30,155 posts)I would have had to speak up and "raised their consciousnes", as it were.
oasis
(52,300 posts)Shell reduce him to pudding.
ProudMNDemocrat
(19,623 posts)If the felon brings it up, Kamala will be ready for it.
oasis
(52,300 posts)
madaboutharry
(41,904 posts)Now I am looking forward to Harris reducing Trump to pudding!
oasis
(52,300 posts)
ChazInAz
(2,899 posts)lastlib
(25,934 posts)Certainly won't smell like it.
ProudMNDemocrat
(19,623 posts)
genxlib
(5,896 posts)When Joe was still in, the VP debate would have been JD vs Harris.
Now it is Trump vs Harris or not at all.
It wouldn't surprise me if they tried to say it should be JD vs Harris just to try and belittle her back to VP but no way should she do that.
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ecstatic
(34,778 posts)government checks himself for doing absolutely nothing.
But please proceed jd. You are uniting us and lighting a fire in all of us. We will defeat you and shitler.
The Unmitigated Gall
(4,710 posts)A. Receives government checks.
B. Receives full healthcare, for himself and his family, at taxpayer expense. While he calls for the P2025 plan to revoke the ACA.
Hes got a pretty good deal going, latched onto the public tit as he is, while railing against a POC who has worked hard her entire life.
GreenWave
(11,110 posts)Unfit to govern
johnnyfins
(2,086 posts)"Doughboy" name to stick.
oasis
(52,300 posts)llmart
(16,428 posts)He thinks it hides the fact that he looks like a baby-faced bowl of pudding without it.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)We do not have time for this bullshit. We've got a lot of work to do. Let's get to that.
Farmer-Rick
(11,745 posts)Aside from raping little girls, was collect a government paycheck for the past 8 years.
And he's a convicted felon still getting his $230,000+ government funded free bee.
Get a real job Pedo.
lefthandedskyhook
(1,166 posts)nt
I_UndergroundPanther
(13,056 posts)Cats?!! I hate him even more!! Dont fuck with the Cats!!🐈 🐈⬛😾 Vancy pants.
twodogsbarking
(13,706 posts)I knew this would come. Ha ha.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)racist propaganda and a mean-spirited relic of Reagan Republicanism, a half-witted president from a backwards and, judged in the aspect of actual evidence, universally condemned era.
In addition to half-baked hate mongering, Reagan was also instrumental in laying the foundations of for-profit prisons and narco-terrorism by coupling universal homelessness with an endless/pointless war on drugs. These were real city-destroying social innovations which, even now, showcase the enduring nature of deeds done with well monied smugness and "Genuine American Made" stupidity.
ms liberty
(10,216 posts)Because in a civil, reasoned tone he would shred Guyliner's every argument with a smile and a friendly zinger at the end. I am really looking forward to seeing this little twerp taken to the woodshed by our candidate, whomever it may be.
DinahMoeHum
(22,921 posts)Because he was in Public Affairs, not in actual combat.
relayerbob
(7,187 posts)While prosecuting assholes like him and his boss
cynical_idealist
(500 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(13,056 posts)That is great😹
thomhartmann
(3,984 posts)karin_sj
(1,215 posts)What an utter a-hole. What has he ever done to help people or improve their lives? NOTHING! Keep running your ignorant mouth, JD. Every toxic, racist, misogynistic word helps us get more voters.
Mr. Mustard 2023
(319 posts)...mother in law was "He should be grateful", because she fell ill and as my wife walked her to her room, through the living room and she heard the tv mention Colin Kaepernick. She was 49er's fan until Colin of course. When he courageously took a knee, she couldn't keep her mouth shut, until I "had the discussion" with her. So she didn't say it again until her frigging death bed.
(She lived with us her last four years and is now deceased.)
I will not speak well of that woman because she was a stone cold racist and she seethed once I told her she could not say those things without my verbal pushback. She should expect me to respond to her racists comments. In addition, she should consider what she is saying which is:
"African Americans are to shut up and be grateful as police murder them, and America continues it's systemic racist policies against African Americans. Yet, they are to love America and be grateful."
I've heard it from other people too over the years. It's ridiculous and pathetic, but we all know why and how the attacks work.
However, this time we are or should be ready and I argue there's only one way to counter their racist attacks, which is; Attack them back. Call them out. Highlight the logical conclusions of their statements. Call them assholes too.
(I am not a knee jerk reactionary. I understand the tactics of being quiet, of temporary retreat and sometimes, taking the high road so to speak, but we're WAY past that with the religiously insane and the Republicons. They will not stand down in any way. The only way to defeat bullies is to beat the shite out of them. It's much more than that of course, but I'm telling everyone - ridiculing the Republicons' racist and often ridiculous messaging is the necessary tactic now.)
The white boys and girls will cry and threaten, they will whine and call us demonic - the goal is to force them into errors and to become so incensed they show who they really are on camera. Kock them off their center(s). Then hit them until they fall.
Show the casual voters what this is really about, and how Democrats fight too, and let them decide who is being honest. It's obvious, unless you're a religiously insane sociopath.
My goodness -
summer_in_TX
(3,583 posts)Counter-programming.
Studying what's trending and then countering the lies where they seem to be about to go viral. Plus slapping down their racist and misogynist nonsense.
Information warfare has been happening awhile and it's high time we counter it.
Not that we want to amplify the small accounts that say something, because responding will draw attention. But the bigger ones, yes.
BTW, not my idea but that of Jennifer Mercieca (@JenMercieca) who teaches rhetoric at Texas A&M.
Martin68
(25,773 posts)The misogyny comes next. Then the commie-baiting. It's like clockwork with these zombies.
Peregrine Took
(7,575 posts)In his first speech he told that "Mtn Dew" joke...and no one laughed.
I heard during his second speech of the day he dropped the joke (!) minimized his populist crap and hit at Kamala a lot harder.
Strange how he changed his mind so much it that time between speeches.
TheDemsshouldhireme
(208 posts)dog whistle. You would think there would be a lot of stories about this in the media. Barely a chirp about in traditional media. I guess anything short of the N word is OK by them.
LilElf70
(874 posts)He fits right in with all the other asswipes. They never know when to keep their mouth shut.
Just another magat moron.
The stupidity is astounding.
Aristus
(69,971 posts)"Collecting a government check".
He was pretty careful not to say that she wasn't working for it. Kamala Harris has a spectacular record of service.
But he knows his ass-scratching supporters will draw the inference...
mwb970
(11,835 posts)Rebl2
(16,356 posts)collecting a government check too?
Aviation Pro
(14,325 posts)So, what do you have in your background, J.D., if that's your real name?
Kelly or Shapiro will take you apart, fuckwit.
iluvtennis
(21,215 posts)corporations with all of the tax cuts they get from the GOP. Let's talk about them.
Bitbit
(145 posts)The American public works 260 or more (full time work).
The President and VP are on call 24 hours day, mostly.
He needs to sit down and stfu.
The Wizard
(13,164 posts)She's a nixxer. For Trump and Maga bigotry is normal.
alarimer
(17,146 posts)I know the GOP hates everyone who works for the government in any capacity.
Im also sure J.D. had some government checks too. Like in the Senate, which I forgot he was in, somehow.
Also, who paid for his schooling? Yale is expensive.
patphil
(7,832 posts)Kamala Harris has an impressive work resume, as a District Attorney, State Attorney General, US Senator, and Vice-President. That's quite a bit. She's served the state of California, and the nation, and has excellent credentials; very well qualified to be President.
JD Vance has about a year and a half of time as a US Senator, and has not distinguished himself in any way. I don't think he can point to a single major piece of legislation that he has authored, and got passed. On a scale of 1-10, his leadership skills rate about a 1.
At this point, Vance is simply picking up a paycheck each month. He's quite a few years away from having the "creds" that allow him to rate someone else's career performance.
He's probably the least qualified candidate for VP in the nation's history.
I don't expect him to bring any votes to Trump's table, and may actually cost him votes.
Mopar151
(10,291 posts)CBHagman
(17,270 posts)It's on.
AKwannabe
(6,772 posts)A government check!
Stupid is as stupid does
Aaeia
(140 posts)Isn't that exactly what he's doing????
MagickMuffin
(17,633 posts)Their racist tropes are going to get More Souls to the Polls!
Turbineguy
(39,032 posts)Especially if the Democrats take the Senate and the House. It would only be a matter of time until Trump is impeached again.
joanbarnes
(2,005 posts)Biglinda 52
(110 posts)that Harris is a DEI choice. I say Vance is a STUPID choice.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,136 posts)This Bozo also went to college on the G.I. Bill.
Thank you, FDR, for signing that bill. Very Democratic of you (capital "D" .
Vance, acknowledge that you got "government checks", too.
barbtries
(30,419 posts)she worked her ass off and still does.
republicans are so bad.
rubbersole
(9,827 posts)STFU until you apologize. you don't have enough class.
SomedayKindaLove
(1,116 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(13,056 posts)I would say
No more dog whistles they are dirty mean vicious mangy Republican dogs.
poozwah
(323 posts)vance, and most of the magats, just dont care. race, an anagram of care, will play a very important role in the november election.
bluewater
(5,420 posts)Though the very term "dog whistles" isn't really adequate to describe Vance's ham-fisted racism.
FakeNoose
(37,376 posts)I wonder if he's moonlighting as a speechwriter for Vance now? Or maybe Miller wrote it for Chump and Chump decided it was too much for him. Now he's going to make Vance do the "dirty work."
debm55
(44,582 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,157 posts)He's got to be a big Second Amendment addict. He keeps shooting himself in the foot.
BComplex
(9,415 posts)I misread the last line of your post, madaboutharry! It registered in my brain as MAGAphones...and I thought "that's perfect for how we describe the mainstream media"! I love DU.
MontanaMama
(24,405 posts)He's not good looking, he's not smart, he's not funny. He's a big doughy dud. The Felonious Rapist didn't need him to win OH...that's in the bag. The FR won't get one additional vote that he didn't already have because he chose the Dud. The media is beginning to point this out and when the FR finally figures it out, he's going to have a big mad.
Dem4life1970
(863 posts)The other day he almost did the Jeb Bush (2016) "please clap" when he told his stupid, racist(?), Diet Mountain Dew joke and none of the MAGA crowd laughed. They just stared at him awkwardly.
NBachers
(18,509 posts)Cha
(310,927 posts)Maga Ass faces don't even like this Dirty little magat.. one of their own. lol
I'm not even gong to respond to This Venomous Rascist POS.
I'm sure POC & WOC got the message loud and Clear.. GREAT GOTV For Kamala..
You fucking Idiot.
RandySF
(74,349 posts)applegrove
(126,091 posts)Now who ignores those laws and norms? DJT, Scotus and the MAGA GOP.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Aussie105
(7,012 posts)Straight from an earlier century, where men were dominant, and people of color picked cotton and were beaten into showing gratitude to their White Masters.
Thanks for showing us who you are, Mr Jackass Dunderhead Vance!
(Is this guy for real? Tell me it isn't so!)

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