The Harris Shortlist

[RandySF]

The Harris campaign has requested vetting materials from the following potential vice presidential nominee picks, according to NBC News:

North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper
Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro
Sen. Mark Kelly of Arizona
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz





https://politicalwire.com/2024/07/23/the-harris-shortlist/

[imanamerican63]

1. All good choices!

[riversedge]

4. Michigan's Gov said she did not want the vp role. Wonder if she will

feel obligated with Harris asks her??

[moonscape]

2. I thought Whitmer had said no?

[JI7]

5. She will say yes if Harris asks

[kwolf68]

3. Some of our best right there

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[Ruby Zee]

6. What a great list of candidates!

I'm so excited for the VP pick. Every one of them would be a great choice!

[edisdead]

7. Walz would be amazing.

And he would make an awesome president in 8 years.

You HAVE got to listen to Walz speak to people. He is great.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz

[Ocelot II]

8. Tim Walz? That surprises me. He's an excellent governor, but

he isn't well-known nationally, and he doesn't bring swing state votes (MN hasn't voted for a Republican in decades). I love him but would rather keep him here.

[edisdead]

9. He DOES help with WI and other midwest states

He has an impressive background and would be a good one to start grooming for a serious run later. The way our state has prospered since him becoming governor has been fantastic.

Also Flanagan would step in and she is awesome too!

[Ocelot II]

15. Flanagan, who is very capable, would also be the first Native American governor.

I do think Walz is really impressive but they might be looking for someone with more of a national reputation. Shapiro and Whitmer have gotten a lot of press and they are excellent speakers (but Whitmer has said she doesn't want to do it). Mark Kelly was an astronaut so he's got that military hero vibe, and his wife is Gabby Giffords so there's the gun control angle, but it wouldn't be good to lose a Democrat from the Senate right now. So they'll probably go with a governor. My bet is it will be Shapiro (who would bring PA), but what do I know? Any of them would work for me.

[Jose Garcia]

20. MN was too close for comfort in 2016

Clinton beat Trump by less that 1.5%.

[Ocelot II]

24. True, but Clinton's campaign seemed to have pretty much ignored MN,

maybe taking a win here for granted. I remember being really annoyed when I wanted a lawn sign and none of the campaign offices I contacted had any idea where I could get one. There seemed to have been almost no presence in the state, even Minneapolis/St. Paul. I'm assuming Harris' campaign will have learned a few lessons from that mistake. Nothing can be taken for granted.

[rogerballard]

10. I think Gretchen said no to a challenge for the nomination...

I do not think she gave an answer for VP and I think if asked she will do it. We love our Gov here in Michigan. Any of those are good choices, I am partial to Shapiro and Kelly however.

[democratsruletheday]

13. Fellow Michigander here...

and I agree with you, she's staying put IMO. I love the idea of an all woman ticket but I don't think that passes muster this time around. Maybe In the future though.

[rogerballard]

16. Same with Pete...

I love Gretch and Pete immensely, not good choices right now.

[bucolic_frolic]

11. Sen. Kelly is the guy

That indefinable stature counts. At the national level.

[democratsruletheday]

14. agree...

he's been my first pick from the get go. Shapiro 2nd.

[Wavelight]

19. Man I hop

HARRIS/KELLY 2024 will be formidable

[krawhitham]

39. We will lose this senate seat

[bucolic_frolic]

41. A Democratic Governor will appoint a new one. ./ nt

[krawhitham]

47. Just until the next state wide election, just like with McCain

[Bev54]

53. He is not up for re-election until 2028

I think that is time enough for a new dem senator to make their case for re-election

[krawhitham]

44. He's one of our least reliable votes in the Senate

Of the 51 people that caucus with Democrats, he ranks 46th


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/

[TheRickles]

12. I think it'll be Kelly.

Whitmer - two females would be one too many
Shapiro - too valuable as governor
Walz - not a swing state
Cooper - I don't know anything about him, FWIW
Kelly - swing state, male, moderate, reasonably well-known nationally, vet, compelling story, etc.

[Buckeyeblue]

18. I think Kelly is the right choice as well

[Persondem]

21. The big thing about Cooper is that he carried NC in ...

... 2016 when the state went for Trump in a big way (for a "purple" state). He could get NC back in the Blue column this year.

[hamsterjill]

28. I think Kelly, as well.

He checks all of the boxes as you’ve so well indicated.

[Freddie]

30. If it's Gov Shapiro, he would be replaced by the Lt Gov

Another Dem and very well liked.

[ellemb]

43. Austin Davis

If Shapiro were to leave office before his term was up, Lt. Gov. Austin Davis would take the reins. According to Pennsylvania's line of succession, Senate President Pro Tempore Kim Ward, a Republican from Westmoreland County, would become lieutenant governor.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

59. Strong on the border and guns

Married to the survivor of an ugly assassination attempt.

[Happy Hoosier]

17. Kelly or Shapiro in that order, IMO.

I love Gretchen Whitmer, but I think she would prefer to stay where she is for now.

[Rocknation]

54. And I don't believe it's time for a two-woman ticket.

nt

[lark]

22. I wish Secretary Pete was on this list, I think he would be spectacular!

The others also appear to be excellent candidates, any of them should be quite helpful to the ticket!

Go Harris - 2024~

[phoenix_rising]

33. Couldn't agree more!

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If not going for a blue-collar pick, go Slayer (secretary) Pete all the way! I’m such a huge fan!!

His unparalleled talent more than compensates for any perceived lack of experience in winning elections. I’m shocked he didn’t make the short list. No one can deliver a message like he can, and he serves it gift-wrapped with a smile. The way he eviscerated JD Vance on Bill Maher was legendary! Everyone would have loved to have seen him have the opportunity to shred Vance in person in a debate. It would have been epic!

Edited to add that I heard Vance list Pete as being childless during his unhinged, childless cat lady diatribe. I would have loved to see Pete dismantle his vile, sexist, and homophobic rant, exposing his ignorance by mentioning that he and Chasten have two beautiful children.

[Deep State Witch]

34. Pete May Have Turned It Down

I'm betting that Pete told her privately that he didn't want the job. The red states are going to have a hard enough time dealing with a Black Woman running for President. They might not accept a gay man in the VP role. Plus, I think he's either going to stay where he is at DoT, or go for SecState.

[KentuckyWoman]

37. He will be a fine president

If he ever wants to go for it again. It is not common in my lifetime for VP to successfully shift to POTUS. Harris is in a unique position, thankfully.

If they put him in something with strong international networking, it will complement what he already gained domestically in his current role.

Yes, you can tell. I really like "Mayor Pete".

[rso]

55. RSO

Blinken is doing a great job at State, he needs to stay there.

[phoenix_rising]

23. Bernie wants VP for workers rights

Bernie was on CNN last night and said that he hopes that whoever she picks will be devoted to workers rights. I know Joe has blue collar roots and hope her VP pick can also. It would also defend against the “liberal elite” attacks that are no doubt coming our way, esp from Vance.

Any thoughts on who might fit that bill?

[WarGamer]

25. Shapiro makes the most sense politically.

[ellemb]

49. Shapiro to Davis

If Shapiro were to leave office before his term was up, Lt. Gov. Austin Davis (D) would take the reins. According to Pennsylvania's line of succession, Senate President Pro Tempore Kim Ward, a Republican from Westmoreland County, would become lieutenant governor.

[catbyte]

26. Why is Whitmer on the list? She said she doesn't want it and I believe her.

Besides, we need here here.

[Cherrycheeks]

27. We are keeping our Governor.

She also said she is going no where.

[Cherrycheeks]

29. I like Bashear or a Buda

[Renew Deal]

31. I heard Walz speak this morning on one of the TV shows

He was really good.

[Emile]

32. Are they all moderates?

[krawhitham]

46. Good question

[KentuckyWoman]

35. That is who they were willing to leak. Yes?

That should not be considered a full list. It won't be easy. I am just grateful we have such a deep and wide pool of excellent talent.

[krawhitham]

36. Only one on that list that will be helpful is Josh Shapiro

It has to be a middle aged white dude, sad but true


If you want to excite the young ones, then Pete Buttigieg is you man

[krawhitham]

38. It can't be Mark Kelly, we don't want to lose that senate seat

Replacement rules for Arizona

16-222. Vacancy in the office of United States senator or representative

A. When a vacancy occurs in the office of United States senator or representative in Congress by reason of death or resignation, or from any other cause and except as provided in subsection D of this section, the vacancy shall be filled at the next general election. At such an election the person elected shall fill the unexpired term of the vacated office.

B. For a vacancy in the office of representative in Congress, if the next general election is not to be held within six months after the date of the occurrence of the vacancy, the governor shall call a special primary election and a special general election to fill the vacancy. The governor shall call the special primary election and establish its date within seventy-two hours after the office is officially declared vacant. Notwithstanding sections 16-313, 16-351 and 16-542, for a candidate for office at an election held pursuant to this subsection, the following apply:

1. The special primary election shall be held not less than one hundred twenty nor more than one hundred thirty-three days after the occurrence of the vacancy, and the special general election shall be held not less than seventy nor more than eighty days after the special primary election.

2. Nomination papers and nomination petitions shall be filed not later than thirty days after the date of the proclamation calling the election.

3. Any court action challenging the nomination of a candidate shall be filed not later than 5:00 p.m. on the fifth business day after the last day for filing nomination papers and petitions.

4. The superior court shall hear and render a decision within five days after the filing of the action.

5. Beginning fifteen days before the date of the election, the county recorder or other officer in charge of elections shall mail early ballots within forty-eight hours after receipt of a complete and correct early ballot request from persons qualified to vote.

C. For a vacancy in the office of United States senator, the governor shall appoint a person to fill the vacancy. That appointee shall be of the same political party as the person vacating the office and, except as provided in subsection D of this section, shall serve until the person elected at the next general election is qualified and assumes office. If the person vacating the office changed political party affiliation after taking office, the person who is appointed to fill the vacancy shall be of the same political party that the vacating officeholder was when the vacating officeholder was elected or appointed to that office.

D. If a vacancy in the office of United States senator occurs more than one hundred fifty days before the next regular primary election date, the person who is appointed pursuant to subsection C of this section shall continue to serve until the vacancy is filled at the next general election. If a vacancy in the office of United States senator occurs one hundred fifty days or less before the next regular primary election date, the person who is appointed shall serve until the vacancy is filled at the second regular general election held after the vacancy occurs, and the person elected shall fill the remaining unexpired term of the vacated office.

E. For a vacancy in the office of representative in Congress that occurs simultaneously with at least one hundred additional vacancies in the office of representative in Congress as prescribed by 2 United States Code section 8, a special general election to fill the vacancy in this state shall be held not more than forty-nine days after the declaration of the vacancy unless a regularly scheduled general election or previously scheduled special general election is held within seventy-five days after the declaration of the vacancy.

[RandySF]

40. Katie Hobbs would appoint the replacement.

[krawhitham]

45. until the next state wide election, Just like when McCain was replaced

[Alice B.]

42. Similarly, that's a lot of West and West Coast on one ticket

Secondly, for those with money on Shapiro. I'm in PA, love Shapiro, and voted for him. However, he may hit a snag, having signed an order in May, regarding state employees, that raised free speech questions in these extremely fraught times.

Shapiro orders state employees to avoid 'scandalous' conduct amid Gaza protests, raising free speech concerns

[LeftInTX]

48. His term expires in 2026.

[pat_k]

51. Roy Cooper

Others are in offices where they are doing good. Some that would be at risk of falling into Republican hands if vacated. Roy Cooper is term-limited, so can't run again. And seems he has good things going for him, like reaching across the divide on "kitchen table" issues.

[Rocknation]

52. Who would do the best job of balancing the ticket?

Way back when, I said that if Obama didn't pick Biden, I wouldn't be able to take him seriously. Don't make the same mistake that DuhDonald has made, Kamala!


Rocknation

[Pisces]

56. I'm sure she will pick the right person for the ticket. I personally like Shapiro

[lindysalsagal]

57. Verified by Rachel.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/harris-campaign-contacts-five-dems-search-running-mate-rcna163207?cid=eml_maddow_20240723&user_email=f6a0d94c816fe5ba8d662ac9ee83dfdbae1a51d1a7fb8eba2a9d0718e9759a89&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=TRMS%207/23/24&utm_content=Final&utm_term=Rachel%20Maddow%20Show

[nolabear]

58. Kelly has border expertise, is ex military, has gun control cred.

He’d be my choice.