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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:11 PM Dec 2012

GOP walks past wheelchair-bound Bob Dole to vote against disabilities treaty

Senator Dole, 89, was recently released from Walter Reed and made a rare public appearance to push for the treaty.

It failed in a 61-38 vote. 67 votes were needed.


(Bob and Elizabeth Dole are visible on the right)

Former Senate Republican Leader Bob Dole came to the Senate floor Tuesday to make a personal appeal for lawmakers to ratify a United Nations treaty for people with disabilities.

Dole, who was in wheelchair, came to the floor shortly before senators began to vote. Accompanied by his wife, former Sen. Elizabeth Dole, he listened as Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) made a final push for the treaty. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) walked over to greet Dole, smiling and patting Dole’s back.

In a touching moment, Rep. Jim Langevin (D-R.I.), who also uses a wheelchair and has publicly urged the Senate to ratify the treaty, joined Dole at one point, holding hands with him as they talked and listened to Kerry.

“Don’t let Sen. Bob Dole down,” Kerry told senators, gesturing toward Dole.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/12/dole-makes-appearance-on-senate-floor-151034.html

Rachel Maddow had this to say via Facebook:
"The spectacle of Senate Republicans voting against the UN treaty on the rights of the disabled -- and walking past Bob Dole in a wheelchair on their way to do it -- should be news, real and big news."


The GOP explained their heartless vote by spouting some Alex Jones/Glenn Beck-style, black helicopter conspiracy nonsense about losing our sovereignty. Funny they had no concern for any of that when they voted for every corporate globalization "free" trade deal of the past two decades.
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GOP walks past wheelchair-bound Bob Dole to vote against disabilities treaty (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 OP
He should be glad they didn't step on him Kelvin Mace Dec 2012 #1
Isn't Bob Dole among the 47% takers that the GOP finds so contemptible? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #14
Probably. That he earned those veterans benefits hifiguy Dec 2012 #24
What has Bob Dole done for me lately? BlueStreak Dec 2012 #25
Little do they understand... GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #37
Of course, just like those losers who are incapacitated by accidents at work nxylas Dec 2012 #96
If there had been money involved the current RepubliCONS Senators would have run over him. n/t fasttense Dec 2012 #104
I hope Bob Dole is proud of what his party has become. n/t Ian David Dec 2012 #2
I know huh? This is a total symbolic slap in the face from the koch Cha Dec 2012 #16
When he was hospitalized a few weeks ago... Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #3
yup Skittles Dec 2012 #36
I remember a different Bob Dole before his run for president... rwsanders Dec 2012 #100
Dole, now he sees the light 1Greensix Dec 2012 #108
So it would have been pointless to vote in favor of the treaty right? Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #4
Your compassion is noted. bullwinkle428 Dec 2012 #51
If you don't see a difference, it is because you haven't thought much about it karynnj Dec 2012 #55
Are you saying you care more? Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #58
They could at least have brought out an ice floe Quantess Dec 2012 #72
George H W Bush and Bob Dole the party is over Rambis Dec 2012 #5
GHWB?! That old treasonous former CIA Chief?? WinkyDink Dec 2012 #40
I wouldn't include GHWB. JoeyT Dec 2012 #69
"One nation, under God" was added to "our" pledge of allegiance (grr) in 1954 dotymed Dec 2012 #71
Yeah. He couldn't have cared less, but he was pandering. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #107
Old news,I suppose. scratcho Dec 2012 #6
Welcome to DU. DocMac Dec 2012 #8
Thanks Doc------- scratcho Dec 2012 #9
Which one? Panasonic Dec 2012 #81
Another DU Welcome. Thanks for stopping in. Lochloosa Dec 2012 #11
They're like poory-written villains in a poorly-written story. eShirl Dec 2012 #19
Welcome. Canuckistanian Dec 2012 #50
Good point. They seem to have shamelessly removed their masks We People Dec 2012 #54
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #57
Welcome to DU, Scratcho. Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #67
Welcome scratcho. Your view is just as valuable as anyone else's. And truth bears repeating. freshwest Dec 2012 #80
Both Kansas senators voted "nay." Shameful! n/t BuelahWitch Dec 2012 #7
Watch them trip over each other to be first in line at his funeral KamaAina Dec 2012 #28
Of course! BuelahWitch Dec 2012 #60
For a little comic relief from this outrageous vote, Laurian Dec 2012 #10
Thanks.... femrap Dec 2012 #42
I agree with Rachael! "It should be real big news" and since I'm guessing Cha Dec 2012 #12
I'm curious how Dole's wife would have voted LynneSin Dec 2012 #13
+1 same thought here lunasun Dec 2012 #56
She was a co-sponsor... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #97
The 38 Senators who voted against the disabled: YOU'RE FIRED! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2012 #15
List of names for those who need to be shamed out of office is here: freshwest Dec 2012 #82
Thanks for this -- tomorrow I'm going to call the Republicans who voted Aye and thank them for doing gateley Dec 2012 #103
How Christian of them Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2012 #17
How could they look into those puppy eyes and vote no? eShirl Dec 2012 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #63
This is just sad Politicub Dec 2012 #20
Just when you think the world cannot get any more bizzare sarisataka Dec 2012 #21
Rachel is wrong -- This is not news Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #22
Symptomatic of a culture that worships youth, closeupready Dec 2012 #23
Umm, how old are you?? Many of the senators voting NO are not young by a stretch + lunasun Dec 2012 #59
Definitely worshipping the dollar, but their brand is not all old guys: freshwest Dec 2012 #86
That's what your party is now, Sen. Dole. That's what they think TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #26
Just a bunch of assholes. nt lyingsackofmitt Dec 2012 #27
ATTENTION! PRESENT, ARMS! Caeser67 Dec 2012 #29
Cannot speak for Bob... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #98
The GOP is disabled... berni_mccoy Dec 2012 #30
There is no low to which the GOP will not sink BainsBane Dec 2012 #31
Until they need it... Rider3 Dec 2012 #32
These people are scum Scootaloo Dec 2012 #33
Pay attention ... SummerSnow Dec 2012 #34
Sirs, at long last, have you no sense of decency? Festivito Dec 2012 #35
I called Portman femrap Dec 2012 #38
Well, they trampled on Lincoln's grave while hustling after the George Wallace voters. Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #39
Disgusting Warren Religion Dec 2012 #41
the GOP has new lows to strive for every day quinnox Dec 2012 #43
The conservanazis are heartless pricks. TxVietVet Dec 2012 #44
It's More Than That... My Old Man And Bob Dole Both Fought In WWII, And SAVED DEMOCRACY !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #46
And they fought for the "United Nations", which the Republican Birchers hate so much muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #48
Bob Dole reached into their hearts today and found.... Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #64
Very well put! eShirl Dec 2012 #65
Good lord. progressoid Dec 2012 #45
That is exactly the scummy trash that they are. lonestarnot Dec 2012 #47
The GOP is deplorable pipewrench Dec 2012 #49
"Hello Sen. Dole. And BTW, fuck you," says the GOP. nt Ilsa Dec 2012 #52
More proof that the Republican Party is evil. baldguy Dec 2012 #53
Who were the Rs who voted for it? nt. druidity33 Dec 2012 #61
Lisa Murkowski was one. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #88
KICK! mfcorey1 Dec 2012 #62
The ReTHUG Fundie nutters have taken over the party malaise Dec 2012 #66
Behold, the List of Shame Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #68
Fuck! Shoulda known Corker was one of 'em. Rob H. Dec 2012 #92
Idaho has a senator named CRAPO??? Odin2005 Dec 2012 #94
None are mine, thank God, but I will donate to their opponents. mountain grammy Dec 2012 #110
More details about the treaty are at thehill.com Chef Eric Dec 2012 #70
Vile. Mr.Turnip Dec 2012 #73
Not only does the GOP suck but their suckitude grows worse by the day. Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #74
They literally had no reason. Ash_F Dec 2012 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author dtom67 Dec 2012 #76
Money. scratcho Dec 2012 #112
Republicans have no shame. n/t Joey Liberal Dec 2012 #77
If no one else will say it, I will... Bake Dec 2012 #78
Disgusting rethugs!!!!! mfcorey1 Dec 2012 #79
Thank god Lisa Murkowski took the high road. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #83
Please do that. KamaAina Dec 2012 #85
Yes, I just shot one off to her. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #87
This is the first time I've seen a disability thread last more than one day KamaAina Dec 2012 #84
I saw the story on Rachel's show... SoapBox Dec 2012 #89
Shelby and Sessions voted nay... Third Doctor Dec 2012 #90
All 38 nay voters doubtless self-proclaimed Christians. Jesus wept! Divernan Dec 2012 #91
Grotesque. Republicans now seem to just stand for naked meanness. DirkGently Dec 2012 #93
This is red meat to the "UN Black Helicoter" idiots. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #95
Classy as usual. nt awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #99
They just think it will cost somebody some money libodem Dec 2012 #101
I always say AC_Mem Dec 2012 #102
Wow Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #105
Ah, the Rethuglic party. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #106
Its like pretending you didn't see the disabled person...you look away. Historic NY Dec 2012 #109
It's what they do------- scratcho Dec 2012 #111
 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
14. Isn't Bob Dole among the 47% takers that the GOP finds so contemptible?
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:02 PM
Dec 2012

Somebody should compile the complete list of Republicans that would not be welcome in today's GOP:

Ronald Reagan
Dwight Eisenhower
Bob Dole
Richard Lugar
etc.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
24. Probably. That he earned those veterans benefits
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:17 PM
Dec 2012

the hard way in Italy would be of little consequence to today's GOPigs.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
25. What has Bob Dole done for me lately?
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:20 PM
Dec 2012

That is the bottom line to the 47% business.

If you are unemployed, you are worthless.

If you were once a soldier but now just consume Veteran's benefits, you are worthless.

If you are a student, you are worthless.

If you have special needs, God help you, because we won't. You aren't productive.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
37. Little do they understand...
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:35 PM
Dec 2012

The majority of those "special needs" people are FAR MORE productive than the assholes who voted against that treaty, or those who believe them to be non-productive and worthless. Talk about complete wastes of flesh--that would be every last one of those who bitch about the 47%.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
96. Of course, just like those losers who are incapacitated by accidents at work
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 10:42 PM
Dec 2012

Gotta preserve freedom by allowing employers to dismiss those moochers on the spot, and doing away with the regulations that would have prevented the accident from happening.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
3. When he was hospitalized a few weeks ago...
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:16 PM
Dec 2012

...many of us were saying he was the last Republican with any decency.

Mitch McConnell and the Senate GOP's actions today proved that Dole would not be welcome in today's teabagging lunatic Republican Party.

Skittles

(153,162 posts)
36. yup
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:31 PM
Dec 2012

I just don't remember ever despising or being disgusted by Bob Dole but today's right wing nut jobs are a different story

rwsanders

(2,603 posts)
100. I remember a different Bob Dole before his run for president...
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:47 PM
Dec 2012

He was opposed to anything the democrats did just because they did it.
That is what I saw at the time. He even spoke differently.
But before that I would have said he was reasonable, and was fooled the same way by Fred Thompson.
I won't ever take any of them seriously ever again. That group is rotten to the core.

1Greensix

(111 posts)
108. Dole, now he sees the light
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 10:03 AM
Dec 2012

Dole was a rabid skunk in the Senate. He helped raise this group of Republicans and is responisible for their ethics and morality. What else would he expect from bunch of selfish pricks? He looked like a fool at the voting down of the Treaty.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
4. So it would have been pointless to vote in favor of the treaty right?
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:19 PM
Dec 2012

Then the yays are just pandering to one side, and the nays to another. I could care less.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
55. If you don't see a difference, it is because you haven't thought much about it
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:55 PM
Dec 2012

or you don't care about how people are affected.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
69. I wouldn't include GHWB.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 06:32 AM
Dec 2012
Sherman: What will you do to win the votes of the Americans who are atheists?

Bush: I guess I'm pretty weak in the atheist community. Faith in God is important to me.

Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?

Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.


"As you are aware, the President is a religious man who neither supports atheism nor believes that atheism should be unnecessarily encouraged or supported by the government.


GHW was the first of the religious fanatics. Or at least the first one that was really willing to pander to them full throttle.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
71. "One nation, under God" was added to "our" pledge of allegiance (grr) in 1954
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:35 PM
Dec 2012

at the height of McCarthyism. It has NO basis in our constitution and in fact is in direct violation of the separation of church and state
clause that was a large part of the reason that America felt a need to have a constitution.
GWHB (ex-head of the CIA) never (that I am aware of) represented any Christian principles as I know them.

scratcho

(42 posts)
6. Old news,I suppose.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:24 PM
Dec 2012

1st post here. Still shiny. Never in my memory have the repubs shown to be who they really are,what they believe,how they will attempt to get their way by any means necessary,whom they represent and whom they don't represent, than currently.( Since I'm brand new here,please forgive me for stating the obvious that I'm sure has been stated many times before.) They're shameless.

scratcho

(42 posts)
9. Thanks Doc-------
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:34 PM
Dec 2012

Hope so. Refugee from another forum I was on since '99. Still kind of confusing--but I'll git er!

We People

(619 posts)
54. Good point. They seem to have shamelessly removed their masks
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:52 PM
Dec 2012

that they've been hiding behind in different degrees for the past 30 years. Nowadays, the tea partiers have made it necessary for them to reach down into the depths of who they really are - shameless promoters of greed - and proudly wear their own personas. If they don't, they're terrified of looking anything like the Republican Party of Abe, Ike, or Bob (Dole).

I guess they don't want to even acknowledge that "self-made" folk (or actually men, right?) like them would ever need any assistance or not be totally able-bodied. That wouldn't be Ayn Rand-like. They haven't gotten the message that people who are down on their luck or haven't been "blessed by God" with financial success deserve - not blame or scorn - but compassion.

There's so much psychopathology down in their psyches that Freud, Adler, and other psychiatrists would probably consider them textbook cases for projection, antisocial behavior and base prejudice against people who are not so prideful and self-righteous as the nay-voting senators are.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
10. For a little comic relief from this outrageous vote,
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:37 PM
Dec 2012

check out the comments at the end of this TPM article about the vote.



http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/republicans-un-treaty-disabled.php?ref=fpnewsfeed




I sometimes think humor is the only way to deal with the GOP. I only wish they could understand that they are being ridiculed.

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
42. Thanks....
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:01 PM
Dec 2012

I really needed that. My blood pressure and heart rate can go only so fast. I called Portman of OH and hollered at some pisshole, "You're a loser. Why? Your party is cruel and vile. I wouldn't doubt that Portman prays to Lucifer every night.'

Then I hung up on him as he was trying to be condescending....he's lucky I didn't whistle into the phone.

Oh, and Portman has NO OPINION on VAWA since it is not slated to come to the floor.

They really do go to great lengths to compensate for the small penis (post at TPM).

Cha

(297,249 posts)
12. I agree with Rachael! "It should be real big news" and since I'm guessing
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 04:59 PM
Dec 2012

the US corporatemediawhores(you know who you are) Won't Do It.. It's up to us in Social Media!

Thanks A_H

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
13. I'm curious how Dole's wife would have voted
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:01 PM
Dec 2012

She was lockstep with the Republicans when she was a senator.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
82. List of names for those who need to be shamed out of office is here:
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:04 PM
Dec 2012
This link shows the names of the yeas and the nays, states and party. Yes, this is the GOP's work:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00219

Quoting from another thread:

But the majority of Republican senators is thwarting progress on the pact based on what proponents call groundless allegations that it would encourage abortions, threaten home-schooling, and separate children from their parents.

The conservative Heritage Foundation is among opponents who also have suggested expanding the rights of the disabled overseas could hurt the bottom lines of American multinational corporations.

Some in the GOP oppose it on procedural grounds, saying a lame-duck session of Congress should not entertain a treaty vote.

http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/12/03/treaty-expand-disability-rights-overseas-stalls-senate-frustrating-senator-john-kerry-and-advocates/WB3LBv2IIuFYiXHz5GGuKO/story.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021921472

These people need to be evicted from the Senate by the people in their states.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
103. Thanks for this -- tomorrow I'm going to call the Republicans who voted Aye and thank them for doing
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:12 AM
Dec 2012

the right thing. Except maybe for Brown. I feel kind of guilty, but since he's on his way out... I'll think about that one.

Response to eShirl (Reply #18)

sarisataka

(18,655 posts)
21. Just when you think the world cannot get any more bizzare
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:13 PM
Dec 2012

the GOP votes against a treaty based on the laws we already have in place

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
22. Rachel is wrong -- This is not news
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:14 PM
Dec 2012

It's just par for the course with the modern GOP.

These guys have become human cartoon figures, who unfortunately have real power.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
23. Symptomatic of a culture that worships youth,
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:17 PM
Dec 2012

the younger Republicans think they know everything that's worth knowing. "Bob Dole? Who's that? Who cares?" is probably an oft-heard query about their own party's elder members.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
59. Umm, how old are you?? Many of the senators voting NO are not young by a stretch +
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:42 PM
Dec 2012

one making a statement about this rule is U.S. Senator from Mississippi that is 75 yrs old

and also not all disabled are old - plenty of youth would be affected thus the home school argument >
A majority of Republicans who voted against the treaty, which was modeled on the Americans With Disabilities Act, said they feared that it would infringe on American sovereignty.

Among their fears about the disabilities convention were that it would codify standards enumerated in the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child — and therefore United Nations bureaucrats would be empowered to make decisions about the needs of disabled children — and that it could trump state laws concerning people with disabilities.

More like a culture that worships $$$$ imo

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
86. Definitely worshipping the dollar, but their brand is not all old guys:
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:15 PM
Dec 2012
The conservative Heritage Foundation is among opponents who also have suggested expanding the rights of the disabled overseas could hurt the bottom lines of American multinational corporations.

http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/12/03/treaty-expand-disability-rights-overseas-stalls-senate-frustrating-senator-john-kerry-and-advocates/WB3LBv2IIuFYiXHz5GGuKO/story.html

But they aren't all old. And at least two younger Tea Partiers were just elected to the Senate, so this problem isn't going to die off. Dole can count himself lucky to not have gotten this treatment, because he had Kerry and others there to protect him. If he'd been an unknown, no telling what would have happened. This is just one of the incredibly hateful things that occured during the healthcare debate:



I don't see any difference between them and Ryan who laughed at a disabled senior screaming in pain from an injury being handcuffed at a meeting. Not only did he mock the man, the GOP crowd also laughed at the whole thing. While some of these Senators are old, they've got children who are as bad or worse than them.

Caeser67

(156 posts)
29. ATTENTION! PRESENT, ARMS!
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:44 PM
Dec 2012

I salute Bob Dole for his Military Service, and that's it. Whenever the end of time is near, or something hits close to home, Republicans all of the sudden "evolve." These people were NEVER your friends Mr. Dole, and they proved it to you today. Shameful.

Forward. Together, or Without You.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
31. There is no low to which the GOP will not sink
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 05:47 PM
Dec 2012

I bet Bob Dole, along with the rest of us, can't believe what has become of his party.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
35. Sirs, at long last, have you no sense of decency?
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:26 PM
Dec 2012

They're all handled puppets of a hidden Senator Joe McCarthy.

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
38. I called Portman
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:47 PM
Dec 2012

of OH. He didn't like the 'procedure'...how the bill was brought to the floor. That did it. 'You lost. Why? Because you are a cruel and vile party. I wouldn't be surprised if Portman prayed to Lucifer every night.'

Oh and btw, he has NO OPINION on VAWA since it's not slated to come to the floor.

And these asshats are paid to just be bureaucratic poor losers.

How could they do that to Dole? All 38 should be )(*&%%^#%^$&%&.

 

Warren Religion

(70 posts)
41. Disgusting
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:54 PM
Dec 2012

Bob Dole was the last Republican presidential candidate I had any respect for. These assholes aren't fit to shine his shoes!

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
43. the GOP has new lows to strive for every day
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:04 PM
Dec 2012

They have truly gone nuts, and the devastating defeat they took in the elections has driven them further insane to the gibbering lunatics stage.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
46. It's More Than That... My Old Man And Bob Dole Both Fought In WWII, And SAVED DEMOCRACY !!!
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:33 PM
Dec 2012

With millions of others of course...

Now they were in different theaters, and different political parties...

But there have been many times in the last couple of decades... that I was actually glad my old man was NOT around to sse this kind of SHIT!

(He died of Cancer in 1975.)

Bob Dole just got to see the UNGRATEFUL SOB's this country has produced, and who's wealth and success was greatly enhanced by people like my father and Senator Dole.

I'f sort of glad my father didn't have to see the betrayal.


muriel_volestrangler

(101,319 posts)
48. And they fought for the "United Nations", which the Republican Birchers hate so much
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:43 PM
Dec 2012

and whose treaty they just blocked:

To achieve such laudable aims, Roosevelt and Churchill wanted to create "a wider and permanent system of general security". This was to become the United Nations.

After America joined the war in December 1941, the title "United Nations" was adopted – at the instigation of Roosevelt – by the Allies fighting the Axis forces. The title United Nations was adopted on January 1st 1942 and was used by all those nations who were at war with the Axis. This so-called United Nations Declaration stated that all signatories agreed with the principles of the Atlantic Charter. Twenty-six nations signed it in January 1942, including Britain, America, Soviet Russia and China. These four nations were essentially a ‘Big Four.

During the rest of the war, the ‘Big Four’ held a number of meetings to discuss how the Atlantic Charter could be put into place. In 1943, after meeting in Moscow, the so-called "Moscow Declaration" was issued which declared that a "general international organisation" would be established as quickly as possible and its task would be to maintain peace and security. All nations deemed ‘peace loving’ could become members.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/united_nations.htm

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
88. Lisa Murkowski was one.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:42 PM
Dec 2012

McCain, Snowe, Lugar, I think. Someone posted the yeas and nays somewhere in this thread or another one on this topic.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
68. Behold, the List of Shame
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 05:59 AM
Dec 2012

for those who voted against this Bill -- every last one of the a Republican:

Alexander (R-TN)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00219#position

If any of these assbites is your Senator, you might want to drop them a note and tell them what you think about their votes.

Rob H.

(5,351 posts)
92. Fuck! Shoulda known Corker was one of 'em.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 07:52 PM
Dec 2012

He's my senator, and he also wants to cut SS and Medicaid as part of the GOP's useless "counter offer."

Edited to add that I think he's also against TN accepting any monies from the Affordable Care Act.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
74. Not only does the GOP suck but their suckitude grows worse by the day.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:52 PM
Dec 2012

When it gets to the point they have to accept insane tinfoil sovereignty conspiracy as a valid argument then it's time to close down the party and give up.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
75. They literally had no reason.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 01:55 PM
Dec 2012

GOP would vote against Grandma and apple pie if they thought it would piss off Dems.

Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Bake

(21,977 posts)
78. If no one else will say it, I will...
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 02:20 PM
Dec 2012

May they ALL end up in wheelchairs. Poetic justice.

Fuckers.

Bake

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
85. Please do that.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:09 PM
Dec 2012

She was the ONLY one of nearly a dozen repuke senators on our swing vote list who did the right thing.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
87. Yes, I just shot one off to her.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:31 PM
Dec 2012

My parting sentence was something to the effect that the 38 Republican senators who voted against this have cemented in my mind (yet again) their status as "heartless, obstructionist bastards." And I hope she tells them just that. I'll hand it to Lisa -- while I often disagree with her, she does occasionally get it right. She often takes the high road on veterans bills, too.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
84. This is the first time I've seen a disability thread last more than one day
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:09 PM
Dec 2012

but bear in mind that we're not going anywhere once this news cycle ends. Except into nursing homes, if Boner and his gang are able to force massive cuts to Medicare and Medicaid.

Rachel had the radical disability rights group ADAPT on last night (also a first). They're a good source for what's going on in the movement:

http://www.adapt.org

Disclaimer: I particpated in ADAPT's national action last year.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
90. Shelby and Sessions voted nay...
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 05:58 PM
Dec 2012

I think I'm going to find some way to move out of Alabama. These whack jobs do not represent me at all.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
93. Grotesque. Republicans now seem to just stand for naked meanness.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 08:15 PM
Dec 2012

The party that hates: government, teachers, taxes, journalists, the poor, taxes, science, Muslims, taxes, the environment, immigrants, Palestinians, the elderly, taxes, NASA, the disabled, the young, the ill, taxes, the non-white, women, college students, and of course, taxes.

Republicans love war and corporate profits and wars that create corporate profits. Oh, and fracking. Seems like a small constituency, but apparently they're going to stick with it.

What would the world look like if they got everything they wanted?

libodem

(19,288 posts)
101. They just think it will cost somebody some money
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:56 PM
Dec 2012

To accommodate a worker. They hate the worker not the disabled. It's tough I've been there.

AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
102. I always say
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:02 AM
Dec 2012

Karma is damned near instant now.

You never know how the Universe will balance a condition of complete lack of empathy for those who are less fortunate or disabled.

You may have to experience a terrible disability to understand the error of your ways.

Karma creates understanding.

Annette

scratcho

(42 posts)
111. It's what they do-------
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:36 PM
Dec 2012

and who they are. They did not want SS in the first place. Did not want medicare. Did not /do not want womens rights. Did not want rights for blacks. Did not want WPA,CCC that employed millions in the BIG depression. They send young men to fight and die for the business of securing the resources of other countries for US businesses.(with collusive dems) Most of them are racist white pigs that want ALL THE MONEY,and they want the rest of us to have VERY,VERY little. They detest unions and have beaten and killed those that tried to form them over the past century in order for workers to gain protection from unscrupulous employers. Michigan is now poised to pass a "right to work" law,which is another way of busting unions. On and on and on I could go---so it's no surprise that they would vote against this bill--hell,they've voted against bills that would help veterans before!! They are blatantly un-american shown by their insatiable greed and lack of empathy for their "fellow" citizens.

These kinds of Randian pricks have most of the money and power and looking at posts on Yahoo,ect , leads me to believe that our education system has been and is being ruined on purpose. Critical thinking is inimical to their ends. The democrats seem to have lost their way these days.

And thanks to those that welcomed me.

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