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Senator Dole, 89, was recently released from Walter Reed and made a rare public appearance to push for the treaty.
It failed in a 61-38 vote. 67 votes were needed.
(Bob and Elizabeth Dole are visible on the right)
Former Senate Republican Leader Bob Dole came to the Senate floor Tuesday to make a personal appeal for lawmakers to ratify a United Nations treaty for people with disabilities.
Dole, who was in wheelchair, came to the floor shortly before senators began to vote. Accompanied by his wife, former Sen. Elizabeth Dole, he listened as Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) made a final push for the treaty. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) walked over to greet Dole, smiling and patting Doles back.
In a touching moment, Rep. Jim Langevin (D-R.I.), who also uses a wheelchair and has publicly urged the Senate to ratify the treaty, joined Dole at one point, holding hands with him as they talked and listened to Kerry.
Dont let Sen. Bob Dole down, Kerry told senators, gesturing toward Dole.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/12/dole-makes-appearance-on-senate-floor-151034.html
Rachel Maddow had this to say via Facebook:
"The spectacle of Senate Republicans voting against the UN treaty on the rights of the disabled -- and walking past Bob Dole in a wheelchair on their way to do it -- should be news, real and big news."
The GOP explained their heartless vote by spouting some Alex Jones/Glenn Beck-style, black helicopter conspiracy nonsense about losing our sovereignty. Funny they had no concern for any of that when they voted for every corporate globalization "free" trade deal of the past two decades.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)to make their point.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Somebody should compile the complete list of Republicans that would not be welcome in today's GOP:
Ronald Reagan
Dwight Eisenhower
Bob Dole
Richard Lugar
etc.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)the hard way in Italy would be of little consequence to today's GOPigs.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)That is the bottom line to the 47% business.
If you are unemployed, you are worthless.
If you were once a soldier but now just consume Veteran's benefits, you are worthless.
If you are a student, you are worthless.
If you have special needs, God help you, because we won't. You aren't productive.
GoCubsGo
(32,084 posts)The majority of those "special needs" people are FAR MORE productive than the assholes who voted against that treaty, or those who believe them to be non-productive and worthless. Talk about complete wastes of flesh--that would be every last one of those who bitch about the 47%.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)Gotta preserve freedom by allowing employers to dismiss those moochers on the spot, and doing away with the regulations that would have prevented the accident from happening.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Ian David
(69,059 posts)Cha
(297,249 posts)party to gop of yore.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)...many of us were saying he was the last Republican with any decency.
Mitch McConnell and the Senate GOP's actions today proved that Dole would not be welcome in today's teabagging lunatic Republican Party.
Skittles
(153,162 posts)I just don't remember ever despising or being disgusted by Bob Dole but today's right wing nut jobs are a different story
rwsanders
(2,603 posts)He was opposed to anything the democrats did just because they did it.
That is what I saw at the time. He even spoke differently.
But before that I would have said he was reasonable, and was fooled the same way by Fred Thompson.
I won't ever take any of them seriously ever again. That group is rotten to the core.
1Greensix
(111 posts)Dole was a rabid skunk in the Senate. He helped raise this group of Republicans and is responisible for their ethics and morality. What else would he expect from bunch of selfish pricks? He looked like a fool at the voting down of the Treaty.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Then the yays are just pandering to one side, and the nays to another. I could care less.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)karynnj
(59,503 posts)or you don't care about how people are affected.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)I can see why you are puzzled, language seems to be confusing to you.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)to roll Bob Dole onto, and push him out to sea.
Rambis
(7,774 posts)the religious whack jobs have won good luck to you
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)Bush: I guess I'm pretty weak in the atheist community. Faith in God is important to me.
Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?
Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.
GHW was the first of the religious fanatics. Or at least the first one that was really willing to pander to them full throttle.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)at the height of McCarthyism. It has NO basis in our constitution and in fact is in direct violation of the separation of church and state
clause that was a large part of the reason that America felt a need to have a constitution.
GWHB (ex-head of the CIA) never (that I am aware of) represented any Christian principles as I know them.
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)I think that's true of most of 'em.
scratcho
(42 posts)1st post here. Still shiny. Never in my memory have the repubs shown to be who they really are,what they believe,how they will attempt to get their way by any means necessary,whom they represent and whom they don't represent, than currently.( Since I'm brand new here,please forgive me for stating the obvious that I'm sure has been stated many times before.) They're shameless.
DocMac
(1,628 posts)You're gonna like it here.
scratcho
(42 posts)Hope so. Refugee from another forum I was on since '99. Still kind of confusing--but I'll git er!
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)So we can laugh at them for losing a member
Lochloosa
(16,065 posts)eShirl
(18,493 posts)Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)You'll find a lot of people here who agree with you.
We People
(619 posts)that they've been hiding behind in different degrees for the past 30 years. Nowadays, the tea partiers have made it necessary for them to reach down into the depths of who they really are - shameless promoters of greed - and proudly wear their own personas. If they don't, they're terrified of looking anything like the Republican Party of Abe, Ike, or Bob (Dole).
I guess they don't want to even acknowledge that "self-made" folk (or actually men, right?) like them would ever need any assistance or not be totally able-bodied. That wouldn't be Ayn Rand-like. They haven't gotten the message that people who are down on their luck or haven't been "blessed by God" with financial success deserve - not blame or scorn - but compassion.
There's so much psychopathology down in their psyches that Freud, Adler, and other psychiatrists would probably consider them textbook cases for projection, antisocial behavior and base prejudice against people who are not so prideful and self-righteous as the nay-voting senators are.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Looking forward to more posts. Feel free to jump right in!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)when it comes.
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)Rat bastards!
Laurian
(2,593 posts)check out the comments at the end of this TPM article about the vote.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/republicans-un-treaty-disabled.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
I sometimes think humor is the only way to deal with the GOP. I only wish they could understand that they are being ridiculed.
femrap
(13,418 posts)I really needed that. My blood pressure and heart rate can go only so fast. I called Portman of OH and hollered at some pisshole, "You're a loser. Why? Your party is cruel and vile. I wouldn't doubt that Portman prays to Lucifer every night.'
Then I hung up on him as he was trying to be condescending....he's lucky I didn't whistle into the phone.
Oh, and Portman has NO OPINION on VAWA since it is not slated to come to the floor.
They really do go to great lengths to compensate for the small penis (post at TPM).
Cha
(297,249 posts)the US corporatemediawhores(you know who you are) Won't Do It.. It's up to us in Social Media!
Thanks A_H
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)She was lockstep with the Republicans when she was a senator.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)of the Americans With Disabilties Act :
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:S3406:
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00219
Quoting from another thread:
But the majority of Republican senators is thwarting progress on the pact based on what proponents call groundless allegations that it would encourage abortions, threaten home-schooling, and separate children from their parents.
The conservative Heritage Foundation is among opponents who also have suggested expanding the rights of the disabled overseas could hurt the bottom lines of American multinational corporations.
Some in the GOP oppose it on procedural grounds, saying a lame-duck session of Congress should not entertain a treaty vote.
http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/12/03/treaty-expand-disability-rights-overseas-stalls-senate-frustrating-senator-john-kerry-and-advocates/WB3LBv2IIuFYiXHz5GGuKO/story.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021921472
These people need to be evicted from the Senate by the people in their states.
gateley
(62,683 posts)the right thing. Except maybe for Brown. I feel kind of guilty, but since he's on his way out... I'll think about that one.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,996 posts)Being a sociopath must be a requirement to being a Republican.
eShirl
(18,493 posts)They are beyond redemption.
Response to eShirl (Reply #18)
Dark n Stormy Knight This message was self-deleted by its author.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)What a slap in the face to all disabled people around the world.
sarisataka
(18,655 posts)the GOP votes against a treaty based on the laws we already have in place
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)It's just par for the course with the modern GOP.
These guys have become human cartoon figures, who unfortunately have real power.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)the younger Republicans think they know everything that's worth knowing. "Bob Dole? Who's that? Who cares?" is probably an oft-heard query about their own party's elder members.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)one making a statement about this rule is U.S. Senator from Mississippi that is 75 yrs old
and also not all disabled are old - plenty of youth would be affected thus the home school argument >
A majority of Republicans who voted against the treaty, which was modeled on the Americans With Disabilities Act, said they feared that it would infringe on American sovereignty.
Among their fears about the disabilities convention were that it would codify standards enumerated in the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child and therefore United Nations bureaucrats would be empowered to make decisions about the needs of disabled children and that it could trump state laws concerning people with disabilities.
More like a culture that worships $$$$ imo
freshwest
(53,661 posts)http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/12/03/treaty-expand-disability-rights-overseas-stalls-senate-frustrating-senator-john-kerry-and-advocates/WB3LBv2IIuFYiXHz5GGuKO/story.html
But they aren't all old. And at least two younger Tea Partiers were just elected to the Senate, so this problem isn't going to die off. Dole can count himself lucky to not have gotten this treatment, because he had Kerry and others there to protect him. If he'd been an unknown, no telling what would have happened. This is just one of the incredibly hateful things that occured during the healthcare debate:
I don't see any difference between them and Ryan who laughed at a disabled senior screaming in pain from an injury being handcuffed at a meeting. Not only did he mock the man, the GOP crowd also laughed at the whole thing. While some of these Senators are old, they've got children who are as bad or worse than them.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)of people like you.
lyingsackofmitt
(105 posts)Caeser67
(156 posts)I salute Bob Dole for his Military Service, and that's it. Whenever the end of time is near, or something hits close to home, Republicans all of the sudden "evolve." These people were NEVER your friends Mr. Dole, and they proved it to you today. Shameful.
Forward. Together, or Without You.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but his wife co-sponsored the Americans With Disability Act.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:S3406:
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Mentally.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)I bet Bob Dole, along with the rest of us, can't believe what has become of his party.
Rider3
(919 posts)They are against it. Typical.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Elected by other scumbags for whom "stupid" is an admirable trait.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Disabled conservatives this is all for you as well.
Festivito
(13,452 posts)They're all handled puppets of a hidden Senator Joe McCarthy.
femrap
(13,418 posts)of OH. He didn't like the 'procedure'...how the bill was brought to the floor. That did it. 'You lost. Why? Because you are a cruel and vile party. I wouldn't be surprised if Portman prayed to Lucifer every night.'
Oh and btw, he has NO OPINION on VAWA since it's not slated to come to the floor.
And these asshats are paid to just be bureaucratic poor losers.
How could they do that to Dole? All 38 should be )(*&%%^#%^$&%&.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)Warren Religion
(70 posts)Bob Dole was the last Republican presidential candidate I had any respect for. These assholes aren't fit to shine his shoes!
quinnox
(20,600 posts)They have truly gone nuts, and the devastating defeat they took in the elections has driven them further insane to the gibbering lunatics stage.
TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)The talk a good line of ''Christian" bu$hit, but it's only talk. j
WillyT
(72,631 posts)With millions of others of course...
Now they were in different theaters, and different political parties...
But there have been many times in the last couple of decades... that I was actually glad my old man was NOT around to sse this kind of SHIT!
(He died of Cancer in 1975.)
Bob Dole just got to see the UNGRATEFUL SOB's this country has produced, and who's wealth and success was greatly enhanced by people like my father and Senator Dole.
I'f sort of glad my father didn't have to see the betrayal.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,319 posts)and whose treaty they just blocked:
After America joined the war in December 1941, the title "United Nations" was adopted at the instigation of Roosevelt by the Allies fighting the Axis forces. The title United Nations was adopted on January 1st 1942 and was used by all those nations who were at war with the Axis. This so-called United Nations Declaration stated that all signatories agreed with the principles of the Atlantic Charter. Twenty-six nations signed it in January 1942, including Britain, America, Soviet Russia and China. These four nations were essentially a Big Four.
During the rest of the war, the Big Four held a number of meetings to discuss how the Atlantic Charter could be put into place. In 1943, after meeting in Moscow, the so-called "Moscow Declaration" was issued which declared that a "general international organisation" would be established as quickly as possible and its task would be to maintain peace and security. All nations deemed peace loving could become members.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/united_nations.htm
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)nothing. -Lawrence O'Donnell.
eShirl
(18,493 posts)progressoid
(49,990 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)pipewrench
(194 posts)Someone should hold a wheelchair protest outside of congress.
more links
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/12/bob-dole-cant-sway-republicans-to-back-un-disabilities-treaty/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/04/bob-dole-_n_2238046.html
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)druidity33
(6,446 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)McCain, Snowe, Lugar, I think. Someone posted the yeas and nays somewhere in this thread or another one on this topic.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)malaise
(269,006 posts)This is très embarrassing!
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)for those who voted against this Bill -- every last one of the a Republican:
Alexander (R-TN)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00219#position
If any of these assbites is your Senator, you might want to drop them a note and tell them what you think about their votes.
Rob H.
(5,351 posts)He's my senator, and he also wants to cut SS and Medicaid as part of the GOP's useless "counter offer."
Edited to add that I think he's also against TN accepting any monies from the Affordable Care Act.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)mountain grammy
(26,622 posts)And may just drop them a note anyway.
Chef Eric
(1,024 posts)Mr.Turnip
(645 posts)Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)When it gets to the point they have to accept insane tinfoil sovereignty conspiracy as a valid argument then it's time to close down the party and give up.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)GOP would vote against Grandma and apple pie if they thought it would piss off Dems.
Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)
dtom67 This message was self-deleted by its author.
It's ALWAYS about money. ALWAYS. Other BS reasons may be given,but it's always the same.
Joey Liberal
(5,526 posts)Bake
(21,977 posts)May they ALL end up in wheelchairs. Poetic justice.
Fuckers.
Bake
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I think I need to send her an email.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)She was the ONLY one of nearly a dozen repuke senators on our swing vote list who did the right thing.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)My parting sentence was something to the effect that the 38 Republican senators who voted against this have cemented in my mind (yet again) their status as "heartless, obstructionist bastards." And I hope she tells them just that. I'll hand it to Lisa -- while I often disagree with her, she does occasionally get it right. She often takes the high road on veterans bills, too.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)but bear in mind that we're not going anywhere once this news cycle ends. Except into nursing homes, if Boner and his gang are able to force massive cuts to Medicare and Medicaid.
Rachel had the radical disability rights group ADAPT on last night (also a first). They're a good source for what's going on in the movement:
http://www.adapt.org
Disclaimer: I particpated in ADAPT's national action last year.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)stunning.
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)I think I'm going to find some way to move out of Alabama. These whack jobs do not represent me at all.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)The party that hates: government, teachers, taxes, journalists, the poor, taxes, science, Muslims, taxes, the environment, immigrants, Palestinians, the elderly, taxes, NASA, the disabled, the young, the ill, taxes, the non-white, women, college students, and of course, taxes.
Republicans love war and corporate profits and wars that create corporate profits. Oh, and fracking. Seems like a small constituency, but apparently they're going to stick with it.
What would the world look like if they got everything they wanted?
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)To accommodate a worker. They hate the worker not the disabled. It's tough I've been there.
AC_Mem
(1,979 posts)Karma is damned near instant now.
You never know how the Universe will balance a condition of complete lack of empathy for those who are less fortunate or disabled.
You may have to experience a terrible disability to understand the error of your ways.
Karma creates understanding.
Annette
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)Just wow.
Heartlessness.....
I'm curious if Dole is regretting his party affiliation right now
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)Soulless, conscience-less, hateful automatons. Every. Single. One.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)scratcho
(42 posts)and who they are. They did not want SS in the first place. Did not want medicare. Did not /do not want womens rights. Did not want rights for blacks. Did not want WPA,CCC that employed millions in the BIG depression. They send young men to fight and die for the business of securing the resources of other countries for US businesses.(with collusive dems) Most of them are racist white pigs that want ALL THE MONEY,and they want the rest of us to have VERY,VERY little. They detest unions and have beaten and killed those that tried to form them over the past century in order for workers to gain protection from unscrupulous employers. Michigan is now poised to pass a "right to work" law,which is another way of busting unions. On and on and on I could go---so it's no surprise that they would vote against this bill--hell,they've voted against bills that would help veterans before!! They are blatantly un-american shown by their insatiable greed and lack of empathy for their "fellow" citizens.
These kinds of Randian pricks have most of the money and power and looking at posts on Yahoo,ect , leads me to believe that our education system has been and is being ruined on purpose. Critical thinking is inimical to their ends. The democrats seem to have lost their way these days.
And thanks to those that welcomed me.