Highlights from Egypt, Dec 5 2012

[Catherina]

Continuation of yesterday's threads about the Egyptian People's fight to secure their revolutionary gains and fight Morsi's self coronation to Pharaoh of Egypt

part 1: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021926897

Part 2: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021928582

[Catherina]

1. AFP alerting that #Egypt Islamists have overrun opposition protest tents by the presidential palace

Basil El-Dabh ‏@BasilElD

Seeing tens of MB protesters walking down Salah Salem towards the palace.



The Daily News Egypt ‏@DailyNewsEgypt

#Morsy supporters dismantle opposition tent; claim to have found hashish and alcohol inside. (via #DNE's @BasilElD) pic.twitter.com/3dG5Zw38

Basil El-Dabh ‏@BasilElD

Haven't seen clashes yet but any tents that were up are down, pro-Morsy supporters rummaging through them saying they found hash and alcohol


Basil El-Dabh ‏@BasilElD

This was a tent.

Sara Hussein ‏@sarahussein

-- @AFP alerting that #Egypt Islamists have overrun opposition protest tents by the presidential palace

Basil El-Dabh ‏@BasilElD

There are police here but only guarding entrances to the palace.

[Catherina]

2. If the MB didn't give the US assurances towards Israel the US govt would be loudly condemning

@SultanAlQassemi

If the MB didn't give the US assurances towards Israel the US govt would be loudly condemning Morsy's power grab and illegal MB constitution

[slackmaster]

3. Tagging and bumping. Nothing beats real information from someone who knows what's going on.

This kind of thread is DU at its best IMO.

[leftstreet]

11. I disagree

No offense, but anonymous 'tweets' are no more real information than what newsreaders are given on the tv.

On an earlier thread a statement was made that '25 million' people were in the streets last night in Egypt. Total bullshit.

Context is often necessary to understand news and information

[slackmaster]

14. The signal-to-noise ratio of tweets is certainly lower, but they make up for it in speed and volume

It's ultimately up to the news consumer to separate the grain from the chaff.

[leftstreet]

16. Perhaps news 'consumers' have gotten better at it

Information overload and fatigue has led people to question what they're getting from all that speed and volume

Context

[Catherina]

4. Tents completely scattered, torn by supporters, blankets are being used by them

(3 hours ago)

Mai Shams El-Din ‏@maishams

- Unconfirmed reports about an expected presidential speech shortly #Egypt #Morsi

- The Brotherhood officially announces a protest in front of the presidential palace to protect "legitimacy"!!

- Tents completely scattered, torn by supporters, blankets are being used by them.
Retweeted by Hossam

- Protesters pushed back to korba, say their tents were violently removed

Within the last half hour

Mai Shams El-Din ‏@maishams

- I saw morsi supporters around destroyed tents and food inside scattered everywhere

- Pro morsi supporters are calling demontrators felool(*). Protesters outraged

- Anti morsi protesters are no more than 30.

- Tents completely scattered, torn by supporters, blankets are being used by them.

- I have seen the destroyed tents, no alcohol, no drugs. Only canned food.

- A conversation between a supporter and opponent. Supporters are outraged by anti morsi grafitti


* - a felool is a Mubaratchik, Mubarak loyalist

[Catherina]

5. situation super tense / police sat watching as MB beat up protesters in front of presidential palace

Lilian Wagdy ليليان ‏@lilianwagdy

- I'm ok retreated to a back street ... It's camle battle no 2 and once again we are outnumbered

- Police and Military police sat watching as MB beat up protesters in front of presidential palace

- situation now .. MB in control of presidential palace surroundings .. Protesters regrouping in Khalifa Al Mamoun st



Farah Saafan ‏@FarahSaafan

We know that @karemfarid has been attacked but he's currently missing.. does anyone have info??

[Catherina]

6. two journalists injured / Police blocking protesters

سلطان سعود القاسمي ‏@SultanAlQassemi

TT @mlnahas The two journalists Kareem Fareed and Ahmed Khair were injured. By the way, both supported Morsy against Shafik #Egypt



Basil El-Dabh ‏@BasilElD

First anti-MB group I've seen chanting "down with the rule of the morshid." Being blocked by police who aren't letting them advance.


@SultanAlQassemi

BBC correspondent RT @maegdi: Mursi's supporters attack opponents camped outside presidential palace #egypt

[Catherina]

7. striking doctors demand changes to constitution on health services

Hossam عمو حسام ‏@3arabawy

Egypt’s striking doctors demand changes to constitution on health services http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/59784.aspx via @ahramonline

[Catherina]

8. hundreds of pro-Morsi demonstrators.... violently dispersing a sit in

Alex Ortiz ‏@azortiz

At Roxy square now in Heliopolis hundreds of pro-Morsi demonstrators marching in chanting in support of the president and his decree.


Basil El-Dabh ‏@BasilElD

Not many anti-MB demonstrators have shown up from over here. If/when they do, things could escalate rapidly.


Alex Ortiz ‏@azortiz

Only seeing men among the roving bands of Islamist demonstrators out in Heliopolis now, not the mixed crowds of yesterday's protest #Egypt


Hossam عمو حسام ‏@3arabawy

#MB RT @maishams: (MB) Supporters are heading for the prayers after violently dispersing a sit in.

[Catherina]

9. Streets being blocked with barbed wire

Basil El-Dabh ‏@BasilElD

Marghany seems properly blocked now. Ill try walking around.


hossam shukrallah ‏@hossam_shuk

Mb reblocking the street with barbed wire we tore down yesterday.



marlyn ‏@virtualactivism

Ultras ahlawi now in Roxi, Heliopolis, moving towards pres palace



Basil El-Dabh ‏@BasilElD

"I'm not an infidel, I'm not an atheist. Down with the rule of the morshid."

[Catherina]

10. We paid blood,tears... We will not let go. No matter what the price is / Intimidation

Nada Wassef ‏@Nadawassef

We paid blood,tears,time,health,jobs&comrades for our freedom. We will not let go. No matter how high the price is. #MB #Egypt
Retweeted by msofia7


Tarek Shalaby ‏@tarekshalaby

Just got surrounded by a group of middle-aged men who agressively interrogated me. Sweet talked my way out of it, but this is not cool.
Retweeted by Hossam

[Catherina]

12. being followed.... Graffiti being painted over....

Tarek Shalaby ‏@tarekshalaby

What was a dynamic, revolutionary Egyptian crowd last night has turned into exclusively counterrevolutionary middle-aged men today.


Tarek Shalaby ‏@tarekshalaby

They're painting over the graffiti!!!!


Basil El-Dabh ‏@BasilElD

Graffiti being painted over #Jika




Tarek Shalaby ‏@tarekshalaby

I'm being followed...? Getting out of here. Back to the Roxy junction.

[Catherina]

13. MB press release on the 'pro-democracy' demonstration

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ة‎ ‏@cairowire

#MB press release on the 'pro-democracy' demonstration outside the presidential palace (caveat emptor): http://is.gd/SJq33G #dec5 #egypt

Brotherhood Press Release on Pro-Democracy Demonstration Outside Presidential Palace

Muslim Brotherhood and other pro-democracy parties, groups and movements have issued a statement calling Egyptian people to join a mass demonstration and rally outside the Presidential Palace in support of the elected president and the new constitution today.

Wednesday, December 5,2012 14:49


Dr. Mahmoud Ghozlan, Muslim Brotherhood leader, said that the Muslim Brotherhood and popular forces and movements are calling people to demonstrate outside the Presidential Palace on Wednesday afternoon in order to support and defend the legitimacy of the elected President.

This follows Tuesday’s violent violations by protesters who thought they could shake the foundations of legitimacy or impose their own opinion by force, prompting Egyptian popular forces to show that they, the Egyptian people, did choose this President and gave him full legitimacy through free and fair elections, and that they are able to defend that legitimacy, endorse the new constitution and protect state institutions.

http://fjponline.com/article.php?id=1162&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

MT @betsy_hiel Different from Arabic statement which called for defending 'legitimacy agnst brutal transgressions'. http://is.gd/SJq33G #MB

[Catherina]

15. police make way for pro-Morsy marches, not allowing protesters thru

Bassem Sabry باسم ‏@Bassem_Sabry

RT @BasilElD: police make way for pro-Morsy marches, not allowing anti-MB ones through.



5m نشرة القاهرة‎ نشرة القاهرة‎ ‏@cairowire

RT @TheBigPharaoh During SCAF, the regime used army/police soldiers. Now it uses civilian supporters. Way more difficult than the uniformed.

[Catherina]

17. Aljazeera chief anchor "If I were in the shoes of Morsi I would have done what Bush did in LA"

The quality of Aljazeera

This is what a chief anchor (the first one in the history of the channel) of Aljazeera wrote on Twitter:
"If I were in the shoes of Egyptian president Muhammad Mursi I would have done what George Bush Sr had done when he deployed the army in Los Angeles to put an end to choas in Egypt." (thanks Sultan)

http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-quality-of-aljazeera.html

[Catherina]

18. militant soccer fans on their way to the presidential palace

Bassem Sabry باسم ‏@Bassem_Sabry

The Ultras going to the presidential palace - #Egypt RT @EmanRS_:


(Ultras: Egypt's militant soccer fans, one of the country's largest civic groups. Ultras Ahlawy played a key role in the 2011 Egyptian protests, along with the Ultras White Knights.[2]

The Battle of Feb2nd was a key turning point in the Egyptian revolution. It is known as Bloody Wednesday in Egypt and as "the battle of the camel" in the west. Over 300 Egyptians died that day, most of them Ultras. )


Basil El-Dabh ‏@BasilElD

Things heating up in Roxy but both sides still staying apart.

[riverwalker]

32. ultras pic

Mona Eltahawy‏@monaeltahawy

Is it true #Ultras on way 2 defend anti-Morsi protesters from Muslim Brotherhood thugs?Ultras only "movement" as organized,disciplined as MB


:large

[riverwalker]

33. another

Ben Gittleson‏@bgittleson

#Ultras headed down to presidential palace (photo via Facebook): http://goo.gl/xTC1b - #egypt #morsi - Confirmation, anyone?

[Catherina]

19. Lots of women, youth, families. Ppl say theyr willing 2 'escalate no matter what it takes' until #Mo

Reem Abdellatif ريم ‏@Reem_Abdellatif

Lots of women, youth, families. Ppl say theyr willing 2 'escalate no matter what it takes' until #Morsi rescinds decree

[Catherina]

20. leftist opposition calls protest to counter Muslim Brotherhood / this is our location

Egyptian group calls protest to counter Muslim Brotherhood
Published today 14:24

CAIRO (Reuters) -- An Egyptian leftist opposition group urged its supporters to head to the presidential palace on Wednesday in response to the Muslim Brotherhood's call for a protest there in support of President Mohamed Mursi, a spokeswoman said.

The Popular Current, led by ex-presidential candidate Hamdeen Sabahy, said its members would back other protesters who remained outside the palace overnight to demand that Mursi cancel a decree giving him sweeping powers and halt plans for a constitutional referendum on Dec. 15.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=545226&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Tarek Shalaby ‏@tarekshalaby

This is our current location (whatever you call it). Everyone needs to be here: Al Nadi, Mansheya El-Bakry, Heliopolis http://m.google.com/u/m/zhg91m

[Catherina]

21. Medics gettig ready / Aljazeera covers Egypt

Tahrir Supplies ‏@TahrirSupplies

Needed in Etihadiya: Gauze, cotton, band-aids, Betadine, Detol, Syringes, local antibiotics, surgical wires, eyedrops.


Tahrir Supplies ‏@TahrirSupplies

A field hospital will be established at Heliopolice evangelical church. Doctors & needed contact @Raneen_Wahba



Aljazeera covers Egypt
Yesterday, I saw a glimpse of Aljazeera's coverage of Egyptian demonstrations. It showed a section that was sparsely populated.

http://networkedblogs.com/FA3cs



Mai Shams El-Din ‏@maishams

Am on the line between opponents and supporters. A sad scene.

[Catherina]

22. at roxy we need help. we are very low in number... We are facing them. Ask all to come

Sofia Smith سهى ‏@SmithSofia

Next tweet via an Ottawa-Egyptian friend of mine who recieved the following message from Cairo! Pls look and RT the next tweet!


Sofia Smith سهى ‏@SmithSofia

Nesreen I am at roxy we need help. Nesreen we are very low in number. Am at groppi area. We are facing them. Ask all to come. (pls RT!)

[Catherina]

23. Medics: Situation is escalating fast / Rockthrowing started by morsi supporters to disperse protest

Sofia Smith سهى ‏@SmithSofia

-Next tweet via @nadawassef

-Situation is escalating fast.This is it.Unless you have a patient opened up on a surgery table then you should be heading to the #PrezPalace


-Heads up all #EgyDoctors or #EgyMedicalStudents in #Cairo! Please if at all possible to #PrezPalace to help! #Egypt


Mai Shams El-Din ‏@maishams

-Rock throwing started by morsi supporters to disperse protesters

[Catherina]

24. MB attacking journalists around palace, chase them down streets, destroy cameras

Mohamed Fadel Fahmy ‏@Repent11

Muslim Brotherhood supporters attack a number of journalists around palace, chase them down streets, destroy cameras. #Egypt



Sarahngb ‏@Sarahngb

#Morsi your 'muslim brothers' are your grave diggers.

[Catherina]

25. Protesters en route 2 palace/ VIDEO - MB gangs attack protesters palace

Andy Carvin ‏@acarvin

Protesters en route to presidential palace, #Cairo, #Egypt RT @Mad_Darsh: http://twitpic.com/bjbkgu


Note: The palace is about 10 miles from Tahrir Sq


Hossam عمو حسام ‏@3arabawy

RAW الاتحادية: الإخوان يحطمون خيم المعتصمين

VIDEO - MB gangs attack protesters outside presidential palace

[Catherina]

26. Growing #s of anti Morsy protesters gathering / seems MB planning to attack Tahrir / rock piles

Basil El-Dabh ‏@BasilElD

Growing number of anti Morsy protesters gathering at Roxy Square.




Hossam عمو حسام ‏@3arabawy

It seems the MBs are planning to attack Tahrir http://is.gd/vRILUc


Evan Hill ‏@evanchill

Morsi supporters at the main intersection with Ahram St at Heliopolis Club seem readying for clash. Some rock piles behind their "front".

[Catherina]

27. call for a general strike by Salvation Front?

Sarahngb ‏@Sarahngb

It seems there will be a call for a general strike by Salvation Front!



Note: The National Front for Salvation of the Revolution or the National Salvation Front or the National Rescue Front is an alliance of Egyptian political parties, formed to defeat Mohammed Morsi's 22 November 2012 constitutional declaration. The National Front for Salvation of the Revolution has more than 35 groups involved overall. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_for_Salvation_of_the_Revolution

[Catherina]

28. Female protester being held at Police station / MB planning a millioniyya

Sara سارة ‏@SazzleUk

All we need is for someone to go to #Hurghada Police station & ask why @Ozzylynne is still being held. And what we can do to get her out?


Gregg Carlstrom ‏@glcarlstrom

CBC is reporting that the Muslim Brotherhood is planning a millioniyya on Friday in support of Morsi. Location not confirmed

[Catherina]

29. MB attacking peaceful women protesters with no shame / armed with iron bars

Sally Sami ‏@Salamander

MB supporters attack peaceful women protesters with no shame.


Reem Abdellatif ريم ‏@Reem_Abdellatif

“@salamamoussa: First hand report of #MB members armed with iron bars in Roxy chanting sectarian slogans. #MB #Egypt.”

[mahina]

30. Thank you Catharena for all the time you've taken. Riveting. Holding the vision of a peoples ' govt

good luck to all peaceful ones.

[Catherina]

31. ElBaradie: 1. Protests head to the palace; 2. General strike.

نشرة القاهرة‎ ‏@cairowire

MT @GameelaIsmail #ElBaradie's statement shortly w/Nat'l Salvation Front — 1. Protests head to the palace; 2. General strike. #dec5 #egypt

[Catherina]

34. MB militias carrying clubs have just entered /// TV stations not going off air to cover this

Reem Abdellatif ريم ‏@Reem_Abdellatif

2nd person to say this “@YoussefEHanna: A march of #MB militias carrying clubs have just entered Al Ahram Street #Egypt #Tahrir @monznomad”


Egyptocracy ‏@Egyptocracy

So far, 5 eyewitnesses confirmed #MB crowds are armed with clubs and rods. 2 confirmed pellet guns. #Egypt #Morsi


Reem Abdellatif ريم ‏@Reem_Abdellatif

“@Ateyya: Chants now in front of #prezpalace: you liberals and seculars be patient... Islamists will dig your grave soon”


Rawya Rageh ‏@RawyaRageh

#Egypt satellite TV stations that were going to go off air tdy in protest do the right thing, favor bringing the public coverage of tdy

[Catherina]

35. Turning NASTY right now / gunfire, rocks, molotovs

magdi abdelhadi ‏@maegdi

This is about to turn very nasty They are now marching towards Mursi's militias #egypt


magdi abdelhadi ‏@maegdi

Anti Mursi protesters run back after they hear gunshots #egypt


Ahmed Ateyya ‏@Ateyya

Gun shots heard in Al Ahram st. near the #prezpalace. Earlier, protesters spotted a bus full of armed "thugs" and attacked it with rocks

magdi abdelhadi ‏@maegdi

Anti Mursi protesters say Brothers supporters opened fire #egypt


Ahmed Ateyya ‏@Ateyya

Morsi clan are using moltov cocktails against protesters now

[Catherina]

36. Reuters: firebombs being thrown outside the presidential palace

Gregg Carlstrom ‏@glcarlstrom

Reuters: firebombs being thrown outside the presidential palace


Tarek Shalaby ‏@tarekshalaby

We're being chased back. The clashes are ON
Over a thousand here chanting 'the people want the downfall of the regime'


Anonymous Operations ‏@Anon_Central

#Breaking: Supporters and opponents of President #Morsi throw Molotov (petrol bomb) on each other outside the presidential palace. #Egypt

[Catherina]

37. Pro- #Morsi chant "the ppl demand the implementation of God's law"

Pro- #Morsi protesters at palace chant "Al Shaab Yureed tatbeek Shar3 Allah (the ppl demand the implementation of God's law" #Egypt #Morsi

shaimaa khalil ‏@Shaimaakhalil

Reports frm in front of the presidential palace #Cairo .. #Morsi supporters chanting " the people want the implementation of Allah's sharia"

[Catherina]

38. LIVE ONT coverage

Anonymous Operations ‏@Anon_Central

#LIVE -- Demonstrations outside the presidential palace in Cairo, #Egypt -

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Egypt_5

[Catherina]

39. Our Fight for a civil secular state is a matter of life and death

Ahmed Ateyya ‏@Ateyya

Our Fight for a civil secular state is a matter of life and death...it is not a political dispute anymore!

[Catherina]

40. field hospital on the run Morsi supporters have all kinds of weapons

Lilian Wagdy ليليان ‏@lilianwagdy

field hospital @ on the run Morsi supporters have all kinds of weapons

[Catherina]

41. Someone is getting the living daylights kicked out of him live

Andy Carvin ‏@acarvin

Someone is getting the living daylights kicked out of him live on #ontv in #Heliopolis #Cairo #egypt

[Catherina]

42. We're outnumbered in this battle

Bel Trew - بل ترو ‏@Beltrew

Rt @tarekshalaby: We're at the intersection with Khalifa El Mamoun st. Stones exchanged. We're outnumbered in this battle."

[Catherina]

43. Tear gas / Tens of injured / Clashes explode

sherief gaber ‏@cairocitylimits

Tear gas fired coming from where the brotherhood are positioned RT @salmasaid: ضرب غاز من ناحية الاخوان

Sharif Kouddous ‏@sharifkouddous

Fierce clashes downtown between pro and anti-Morsi crowds. Rocks, fireworks and the occasional Molotov cocktail pic.twitter.com/Vg58GM1i




Zeinobia ‏@Zeinobia

Tens of injured in the clashes at presidential palace mostly head injuries



Sabry Khaled أيوب ‏@sabrykhaled

Journalists waiting for the opposition presser minutes from now, @ElBaradei and @HamdeenSabahy are here. pic.twitter.com/Fl6LLPoM


Hossam عمو حسام ‏@3arabawy

BREAKING: Clashes explode at Egypt presidential palace http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/59868.aspx via @ahramonline

[Catherina]

44. Morsi supporters rushing toward front shouting "God is great"

Evan Hill ‏@evanchill

Have been in the street for three minutes and seen several injured pro Morsi ppl carried back bleeding. Looked like hit with rocks.


Evan Hill ‏@evanchill

Morsi supporters rushing toward front shouting "God is great"

[Catherina]

45. beating brutally. / Unidentifiable loud bangs. Molotovs. Pavement breaking.

@Sarahcarr

Unidentifiable loud bangs. Molotovs. Pavement breaking.


Egyptocracy ‏@Egyptocracy

Oh my god, live on Al Nahar TV, #MB crowds huddled around a person and beating brutally. #Morsi #Egypt

[Catherina]

46. CSF trucks

Sarahngb ‏@Sarahngb

CSF RT @embee: @Sarahngb trucks seen heading there.


Evan Hill ‏@evanchill

More than a dozen explosions from the front. No idea what. Could be tear gas. This is like the day of the Camel Battle


Basil El-Dabh ‏@BasilElD

MB side has charged, opposition throwing molotovs.

[Catherina]

47. Since there is no police present, protesters enraged MB has teargas n/t

[Catherina]

48. Can anyone confirm reports of dead protestors?

shaimaa khalil ‏@Shaimaakhalil

PLZ CONFIRM!! Did someone die infront of #itihadiya presidential palace now?? On which side ?? #Morsi #Egypt

Sarahngb ‏@Sarahngb

Can anyone confirm reports of dead protestors? Anyone knows anything?

[Catherina]

49. Reports of 2 dead already from protesters side

Menna منّة ‏@TheMiinz

Reports of 2 dead already from protesters side at Pres Palace. Unconfirmed from Ministry of Health. #Egypt


Noor نور ‏@NoorNoor1

عبث RT “@waleedrashed: الشرطة العسكرية تساعد في علاج المصابين !!!




shaimaa khalil ‏@Shaimaakhalil

@acarvin so far read tweets about two names Merna Emad and Mohamed Essam.. Both anti #Morsi side... Still waiting for confirmation #Egypt

[Catherina]

51. Merna Imad first martyr / 'the people want the downfall of the regime"

Anonymous Operations ‏@Anon_Central

#Breaking: Merna Imad first martyr- Al Ithadia. #Egypt


Salma ‏@SalmaNoshokaty

Any doctors that can help please mention @venus_elrayes because there are injured that need medical attention and can't be moved.


Egyptocracy ‏@Egyptocracy

Hey @Ikhwanweb, how come your supporters have tear gas on them? #MB #Egypt #Morsi #presidentialpalace


Evan Hill ‏@evanchill

Crowd caught a man, brought him back as they beat him senseless, then convinced to stop, now carrying him to an ambulance.


@Sarahcarr

Chants of the people want the downfall of the regime. Pushed back further.

[Catherina]

50. reporter: MB crowds are firing tear gas

Egyptocracy ‏@Egyptocracy

OnTV reporter: #MB crowds are firing tear gas. #Egypt #Morsi #presidentialpalace


Evan Hill ‏@evanchill

Ive never heard so many explosions and apparent gunshots.
Expand

note - Evan Hill ‏- seasoned reporter who totally covered the first stage of the revolution that ousted Mubarak

[Catherina]

52. Highlights from Egypt, Dec 5 2012 (Part 2) continued at following link

Highlights from Egypt, Dec 5 2012 (Part 2) continued here http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021931254

[PufPuf23]

53. This is so sad.

Thank you Catherina.

[Catherina]

54. It is

I have to hold back the tears but they're there, ready to flow. It's awful. Worse and more vicious than under Mubarak according to the protesters.

And from the international community? Complicit silence and transparent requests for the protesters to restrain themselves. WTF

[Mnemosyne]

55. Thanks for these threads, Catherina. K&R nt