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Rubio on the age of the earth:
There is no scientific debate on the age of the earth. I mean,
its established pretty definitively, its at least 4.5 billion years
old.
I just think in America we should have the freedom to teach our children whatever it is we believe.
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/12/05/1284791/marco-rubio-the-earth-is-at-least-45-billion-years-old/
"When interviewed about the teaching of evolution, Cuban-American Rubio compared the teaching of evolution to the tactics used by Fidel Castros communist party to undermine families and the church - a means of controlling the masses."
http://ecographica.blogspot.com/2010/03/marco-rubio-creationist-in-closet.html
LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)What someone like him really means is that he doesn't want the schools teaching anything but what HE believes.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Look at all the homeschoolers.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)as we like. And we can do a great deal to see to it that our kids are as dumb as us.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I swear, Carl Sagan's The Demon-Haunted World should be required reading for all high-schoolers. "Science is far from a perfect tool of knowledge, but it is the best one we have."
Prometheus_unbound
(57 posts)I think children have a right to have a clue about reality. If parents object, that's their problem.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Like, explaining to little black kids why their genes make them unfit for anything but menial tasks?
Would we tolerate teaching kids that they can safely eat poison if they pray to Jesus as an antidote?
Why the hell should we tolerate the teaching of global climate change denial? Surely that is just as fatal as teaching the kids that Jesus will save them from the consequences of eating rat poison. More fatal, actually, since anthropogenic climate change bids fair to doom us all.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)The idea is that when they're at school, they learn facts and how to separate facts from fiction.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)and leave it at that?
Ignorance is a way of controlling the masses. Appealing to prejudice is also a way of controlling the masses. Denying facts is attempting to control the masses by influencing what information is allowed. He wants to teach his children what he believes - but if his belief denies fact then he is hoping to control his children through ignorance. And not just his children when he attempts to impose his beliefs on others through public policy.
bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)"what we believe", whoever "we" are supposed to be, is beside the point. Knowledge is most useful when it is built up from fact and evidence, independent of belief and ideology.
"Belief" implies the suspension of critical thinking, which is the last thing we should be passing on to our kids!
frylock
(34,825 posts)ain't freedom great?
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)That's undeniably true.
Of course, this creates a generational conflict well known to go back to the time of Socrates. And no parent can be guaranteed that their children in the exercise of their own free will, are going to endorse everything they are taught by their parents.
Nonetheless, parents ARE free to do this and MOST PARENTS SUCCEED AT LEAST IN PART IN THIS ENDEAVOR!
on edit: I thought I should add some examples from 'my' parents teaching that I cannot escape...
From my father: Measure twice, cut once.
From my mother: Never complain about a measurement, shit happens when men build things.