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srican69

(1,426 posts)
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 07:04 PM Dec 2012

How far over the Cliff are you willing to go?


My take is that - if my taxes having to go up by the amount they will, is the price that I have to pay to make the rich pay a much larger portion ( remember that cap gains will go up from 15% to 39.6%)..

then I say bring it on - PERMANENTLY.

What do you feel about going over the cliff?
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You dont want to go over.
0 (0%)
You dont mind going over - but only as a negotiating means for us to get a better deal than we can get now.
2 (25%)
You think we should go over the cliff and stay there ( ie make sure the rich pay the full Clinton era rates)
6 (75%)
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How far over the Cliff are you willing to go? (Original Post) srican69 Dec 2012 OP
For the record vi5 Dec 2012 #1
There really is no "cliff." 99Forever Dec 2012 #2
I wish President Obama could see this poll srican69 Dec 2012 #3
Maybe I'm just imagining things, but this seems like the 3rd fiscal cliff we've had recently. white_wolf Dec 2012 #4
Like John Stewart said Faux pas Dec 2012 #5
Let's go totally Thelma and Louise NoPasaran Dec 2012 #6
I'd go so far as to say I'd like to see us go back to Ike's tax rates madokie Dec 2012 #7
but ... srican69 Dec 2012 #8
I don't think I make enough to be paying 50% madokie Dec 2012 #9
Capital gains go from 15 to 20%, I think. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #10
 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
1. For the record
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 07:06 PM
Dec 2012

Making the Rich pay Clinton era rates is not, I think "going over the cliff". It's doing what needs to be done.

There is no fiscal cliff.

The debt ceiling needs to be raised. The Republicans decided to take the economy and our country hostage in return for that vote.

In any other year in any other administration and with any other congress there would be no fiscal cliff. The debt ceiling would be raised.

Make no mistake about it the Democrats are negotiating with terrorists. I know they don't have any choice but the less we give in to them, the better we all are. Period.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
2. There really is no "cliff."
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 07:11 PM
Dec 2012

I know bullshit scare tactics when I hear them. That said, considering that me and mine are getting absolutely no help from any government agency, at all, things can't do anything except get better in my eyes. Any way we could go back to the pre-Raygun tax rates?

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
4. Maybe I'm just imagining things, but this seems like the 3rd fiscal cliff we've had recently.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 07:13 PM
Dec 2012

The right-wing seems intent on driving us to the brink every few months, maybe it would be better if we called their bluff.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
7. I'd go so far as to say I'd like to see us go back to Ike's tax rates
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 07:43 PM
Dec 2012

there is no reason for anyone to have billions of dollars. Hell not even a billion let alone billions
Tax their freeloading asses is what I say

madokie

(51,076 posts)
9. I don't think I make enough to be paying 50%
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:24 AM
Dec 2012

I remember back then and people like most on this board weren't paying 50% so where do you get that number. I call foul

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
10. Capital gains go from 15 to 20%, I think.
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:33 AM
Dec 2012

I think they were at 20% before the Bush cuts. Just as important is the corporate minimum tax of 16% that comes back with the "cliff".

They won't go over. This 2% increase on the top bracket is not a win but they'll act like it was a decisive victory and worth the massive safety net cuts that will be traded off for them.

Even when we "win", we lose.

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