DU this poll!! Keith Ellison Commentary in USA Today

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2012/12/04/fiscal-cliff-keith-ellison/1747197/

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Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., is co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
8:51PM EST December 4. 2012 - When the American people re-elected President Obama last month, they sent an unmistakable message to Washington. The wealthiest among us should pay their fair share and protect benefits that American families rely upon. The middle class has already been forced to get by with less. The wealthiest 2% of Americans have continued to see their income rise as middle-class wages remained stagnant.

The latest proposal by Republicans fails to meet the basic test of fairness. Over the past two years, Republicans have forced cuts of more than $1.7 trillion for vital investments such as helping children get a college education and helping seniors heat their homes. But they have refused to ask the wealthy to contribute even a little more.

First, the Republican proposal continues to hold millions of American families hostage to tax cuts for the richest 2% of Americans. Even the center-right Simpson-Bowles proposal, which the Republican plan claims to be based on, proposed ending the Bush tax breaks for the top 2%.
Second, the plan would cut benefits for seniors who depend on Social Security to put food on the table. Social Security is separate from the budget and does not contribute to the deficit. The GOP proposal to tie benefits to a lower level of inflation would cost the average 65-year-old retiring now more than $6,000 over 15 years. Consider this: More than a third of all widowed women rely on Social Security for 90% of their income.
Third, Republicans indicated that they would raise the retirement age for Medicare recipients, increasing costs for seniors and raising health care costs in the entire economy. We need to find ways to lower health care costs, but putting seniors at the mercy of private insurance bureaucrats could force them to pay over $2,000 more annually for medicine and increase the cost to those still on Medicare.

Unfortunately, the Republican plan doesn't even touch Americans' most immediate concern: creating good jobs. It's time to focus on fairness. The Republican plan fails that test.

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1. I like Lincoln the movie. Get more than one asks for, but change some words to pull it through

I don't like negotiating in public.

Peggy Noonan, whom I do not like keeps whining why isn't it like Tip and Ronnie.

Well, it is not like that because back then everything was done in private, behind closed doors not in the public view til it was announced.

That is how the Senate has worked forever, til now.
That worked, this doesn't.

and actually, i did not reelect Barack Obama for those specific things mentioned in the above.
Actually those things are not near the top of my list.

But I am not greedy to think he should only listen to me. He is smarter than me, as are the people on his staff.

If I had the choice, i would demand 100% amneesty and 100% citizenship instantly,
and Gov. Siegelman's sentence commuted.

among many other issues.

And some of the above in the OP article is pure propaganda and scare tactics, but not based on anything anyone said at all. Especially the part about those 65 and older.
If in the end run we end up with health care for all and doctors end up salaried and not on a per operation or per diagnosis payment, we will be far ahead of the game

Politics is trading. To get one has to give. One just has to get better than they give, but to think one won't give to get is naive. Life doesn't work like that.