DU this poll! (MI anti-union legislation)

[Union Scribe]

Michigan's right wing governor is, right now, trying to cram Right To Work (for less) legislation through the lame ducks in Lansing. I'm on hold on two lines and typing with a free hand.

Anyway hit this poll! The wording is biased as hell and labor is losing:

http://www.freep.com/article/20121205/NEWS06/121205036/Poll-finds-Michigan-voters-divided-right-work-laws-what-do-you-think-

[peacebird]

1. "Right to work" means employers can fire you for no reason at all, & employees have NO rights.

[Ilsa]

9. People need to look at the low wages of states

Like Texas that are "Right to Work" For Less.

[yellerpup]

2. 52% Pro U

46% RTW. (Idiots)

[pinboy3niner]

3. The 52% is ANTI-union (pro RTW). nt

[julian09]

4. Right to work STATE means no union representation in state NO CHOICE

UNIONS does not mean everyone HAS to be in union, which the poll implies. Two factories can be next to each other doing same thing
one is union the other is not is allowed. One chose to unionize to get fair share of profit and wage.
Why work forty or eighty hours while ceo is playing golf and making $155,000 a week on your labor and your making $500. Unions will help you get better wages, vacations, holidays, insurance, working conditions and protection from unfair dismissal also promotions on seniority and qualification; not because supervisor is related, or has the hots for you.
The other factory not unionized, you get wages and have no say, can be fired just to let girlfriend or friend take place, lousy insurance if any, favoritism on promotion and overtime, no seniority as union where it is first in last out on lay offs and so much more for a small fee per month.
The right to work for less states, may save you a few dollars per month but offer no security, they are pro business at your expense.



Too bad this is being done, because no one campaigned on making Michigan a RIGHT TO WORK STATE.
Didn't anyone tell you that republicans are pro business and anti labor growing up. I know a lot of people got very comfortable because
they were in unions and forgot their roots and thought they were republicans and voted against their own interests. Imagine giving all three branches of state govt to republicans and expect something good to come of it.

[Greybnk48]

5. Still needs help. n/t

[Gothmog]

6. done

Still needs help

[Motown_Johnny]

7. Editing Post, Man Was I Wrong!

Last edited Fri Dec 7, 2012, 12:31 PM - Edit history (1)

This sucks.

I expect a backlash and that this won't last, but for now it is bullshit.

[FightForMichigan]

10. They dont' care what the people think

They pushed it through in a single day with out a single committee hearing and without a single word of testimony.

[gollygee]

14. Very true

They don't care how people voted, they don't care what anyone wants. They want to do it before they're gone in January so they just did it.

[pinboy3niner]

11. The Michigan House just passed it

Posted in GD by cal04:

Michigan House passes right-to-work legislation after Democrats walk out to protest closed Capitol
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021938319

[pinboy3niner]

8. PRO-union votes are now AHEAD, 50%-48%

Should Michigan pass a right-to-work law, which would make it illegal to require financial support of a union as a condition of employment?

YES. People shouldn’t have to pay union dues to work a job. 47.58% (1,103 votes)

NO. Strong unions help workers and push to boost wages and benefits 50.17% (1,163 votes)

UNDECIDED. I need to hear more before making up my mind. 2.24% (52 votes)

Total Votes: 2,318

[Whovian]

12. Done. I hope it helps.

[arthritisR_US]

13. No is barely winning by < 1%

[gollygee]

15. It's amazing how many people are rabidly anti-union

Even in what one would think would be a strong union area like Michigan. People fall for propaganda. It's sad.

[arthritisR_US]

20. Sad is right, it so disgusts me their stupidity

and selfishness

[Union Scribe]

16. Thanks all!

As you've probably read they passed it. I appreciate your help on the poll though

[pinboy3niner]

19. It passed in the House, but the Senate is still debating

Passage is likely, but so far the Senate has been busy voting down Democratic amendments.

[pinboy3niner]

22. The Senate has now passed two RTW bills

It now looks like final legislative passage won't happen until Tuesday:

Michigan lawmakers fast-track right-to-work legislation during chaotic day at the Capitol
http://www.freep.com/article/20121206/NEWS06/121206088/democrats-michigan-house-walk-off-vote-right-to-work-republicans?odyssey=tab

Meanwhile, RTW has pulled ahead again in the poll, 50-48.

[Omaha Steve]

17. Thank you for posting

I sent this to my friends!!!

[limpyhobbler]

18. K/R

done

[pinboy3niner]

21. RTW is now behind by 4 points

Should Michigan pass a right-to-work law, which would make it illegal to require financial support of a union as a condition of employment?

YES. People shouldn’t have to pay union dues to work a job. 46.88% (1,646 votes)

NO. Strong unions help workers and push to boost wages and benefits 50.93% (1,788 votes)

UNDECIDED. I need to hear more before making up my mind. 2.19% (77 votes)

Total Votes: 3,511