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What is "Right to Work?" (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2012 OP
"doublespeak" handmade34 Dec 2012 #1
i thought it was no closed union shops. loli phabay Dec 2012 #2
Closed shops are outlawed under Taft-Hartley. Brickbat Dec 2012 #3
thanks didnt know that. loli phabay Dec 2012 #5
It is up to the individual states Omaha Steve Dec 2012 #6
Notice it is fairly similar to the electoral map n/t doc03 Dec 2012 #10
Surprised MT isn't a right-to-work state Rob H. Dec 2012 #12
I'm surprised about Alaska.. thanks Steve Cha Dec 2012 #16
Alaska is 3rd in union membership Libertas1776 Dec 2012 #27
I think Michigan just flipped. nt awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #20
Missouri is actually in a grey zone xmas74 Dec 2012 #26
Why did I femrap Dec 2012 #31
I don't think Taft-Hartley has anything to do with closed shops. It must be up doc03 Dec 2012 #9
It is one sentence in Taft Hartley that allows states to decide on right to work Omaha Steve Dec 2012 #30
I worked in Virginia (a Right to Work state) we had one person out of about 50 in our doc03 Dec 2012 #8
It's an anti-union law. ananda Dec 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author rDigital Dec 2012 #24
Right to work ashling Dec 2012 #7
sequitur? Marta Steele Dec 2012 #13
Equals Red state. Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #11
Freaking 1984 Big Brother Koch Lingo. Cha Dec 2012 #14
This incedent in Michigan reminds me of what happened in Wi. tiredtoo Dec 2012 #15
the right to freeload stupidicus Dec 2012 #17
Just curious, but who are you aiming at with your post? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #19
the top poster. Who else? stupidicus Dec 2012 #29
Huh? nt rDigital Dec 2012 #23
Right to Work ... nicky187 Dec 2012 #18
LOL rDigital Dec 2012 #21
Passed it in Idaho back in the early 80's and dcmfox Dec 2012 #22
RIGHT TO BE A SLAVE... ReRe Dec 2012 #25
It means you have the right to quit, and your employer has the right to fire you Xipe Totec Dec 2012 #28
Same as other repuke lies like "Clear Sky Initiative" Zoeisright Dec 2012 #32
And "No Child Left Behind". n/t bhikkhu Dec 2012 #33
I'm really beginning to hate living in Michigan, Where is a better place to re-locate to? putitinD Dec 2012 #34
 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
2. i thought it was no closed union shops.
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:35 PM
Dec 2012

Ive worked union and non union. Personally there should be unions but you dont have to join if you dont want to.

Rob H.

(5,352 posts)
12. Surprised MT isn't a right-to-work state
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 09:36 PM
Dec 2012

Then again, they're a red state with a Democratic governor and US Senators.

Edited to add: one of my uncles in Great Falls was a union worker before he retired and I think a lot of the people he knows are pro-union, so that may be one of the reasons why it isn't a right-to-work state.

Libertas1776

(2,888 posts)
27. Alaska is 3rd in union membership
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 10:45 PM
Dec 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_affiliation_by_U.S._state (as of '08, while membership numbers have gone down across the board i am sure the rankings still hold up)

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
26. Missouri is actually in a grey zone
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 10:40 PM
Dec 2012

We aren't right to work but we don't offer the same rights as a "worker's rights" state, either. We're somewhere in the middle, though a Repub-led state house has been pushing for a turn to right to work.

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
31. Why did I
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:11 AM
Dec 2012

think KY was 'right to work?' Did it change of late? I remember applying at Amazon and they made a big to-do about it...but maybe they were just lying to deter me....after all a woman engineer isn't exactly welcome. I worked at Peterbilt Trucks for a short time....was cornered by the workers a few times. It was as if mgt. had encouraged them to do so. No biggie. Ended up at the Devil's Institution of Bechtel...working on Arab projects. I didn't work very hard.

doc03

(35,348 posts)
9. I don't think Taft-Hartley has anything to do with closed shops. It must be up
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 09:13 PM
Dec 2012

to the states, I worked 40 years in a closed shop in Ohio.

Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
30. It is one sentence in Taft Hartley that allows states to decide on right to work
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 11:00 PM
Dec 2012

Nebraska was one of the first right to work states after Taft Hartley. They put it in the state constitution.

Take that one sentence out of Taft Hartley, and there is no right to work exemption.

doc03

(35,348 posts)
8. I worked in Virginia (a Right to Work state) we had one person out of about 50 in our
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 09:10 PM
Dec 2012

plant that refused to join the union or pay union dues. Before I stared there they had a short strike and the guy crossed the picket lines. He got all the benefits we got and demanded all the rights we had and paid nothing, you think that is right?

Response to ananda (Reply #4)

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
11. Equals Red state.
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 09:17 PM
Dec 2012
Indiana flipped from blue to red after becoming right to work recently. It makes me literally ill to think of Michigan losing union power.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
15. This incedent in Michigan reminds me of what happened in Wi.
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 09:45 PM
Dec 2012

A few years ago. The plutocrats have placed their puppets in many state legislators/governors offices. This is of course a result of the tea party gang. It is a damn shame and hopefully we can work together to throw the bums out next election. In closing I say to those that supported these scoundrels "be careful what you wish for."

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
29. the top poster. Who else?
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 10:57 PM
Dec 2012

the "right to work" laws I assumed he's referencing, are all about saddling the unions with the time, effort, and expense of defending scabs like they do their union brothers and sisters.

Opponents argue that right-to-work laws restrict freedom of association by prohibiting workers and employers from agreeing to contracts that include fair share fees, and so create a free rider problem.[15][16] The absence of fair share fees forces dues paying members to subsidize services to non-union employees (who are bound by the terms of the union contract even though they are not members of the union). Thus, these individuals benefit from collective bargaining without paying union dues.[15][17]


any other questions

nicky187

(137 posts)
18. Right to Work ...
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 10:12 PM
Dec 2012

Ownership propaganda used to sell their preferences to stupid people, versus exercising your right to organize under collective bargaining.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
21. LOL
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 10:17 PM
Dec 2012

I read the title as a question that needed an answer. I'm thinking I'll be clever and say "The right to work for less!", alas you've beat me to it.

Union Yes.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
25. RIGHT TO BE A SLAVE...
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 10:38 PM
Dec 2012
... that's exactly what it means. Modern slavery and nothing less. All in poverty with no way out. All on medicaid and food stamps. This country is looking more like Upton Sinclair's THE JUNGLE all the time. All NOT going to have a good Christmas. All represented in that PBS (Frontline?) doc on Poverty a few weeks ago. Ken Burns needs to get to work on this.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
28. It means you have the right to quit, and your employer has the right to fire you
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 10:46 PM
Dec 2012

For good reason, bad reason, or no reason at all.

I know.

I was trained as a supervisor in Texas.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
32. Same as other repuke lies like "Clear Sky Initiative"
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:14 AM
Dec 2012

that increased pollution and "Healthy Forests Initiative" that allowed clear-cutting. Any time repukes name a bill or movement, it means the opposite of that.

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