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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsReally Chris Matthews, you really didn't know about the microphone until now, really?
If that is really the case, then Chris Matthews is literally too ignorant to be a pundit. If he did, then he is too dishonest. It was shown in real time, well a week or so after, exactly what happened. Here is one link
http://www.testpattern.org/2004/02/dean-scream-debunked-ive-supported.html
I am just plain, appalled.
doc03
(35,348 posts)first place. What I think is the MSM wanted to take Dean down and that was what they
played up to try and make him look crazy.
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)I thought it was inspiring. The worse thing is it worked. I'm still a Deaniac.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)The only thing that I can think of is that he seemed to be serious and soft spoken that it may have seemed so out of character that it seemed like a wild shift in who he was.
It was just a normal "Let's go out and win" type speech that is in every campaign.
yardwork
(61,650 posts)doc03
(35,348 posts)him the world will end on January 1. I think Matthews is more unstable than Howard dean ever was. He can shift his positions 180º from one day to the next.
Raine
(30,540 posts)eight years ago!
name not needed
(11,660 posts)A thrill went up his leg and he got distracted.
Glamrock
(11,802 posts)Well said. I had the same thought but mine was more profanity laced.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)with Tweety's 2004 guesses and surmises and deductions?
This is all water under the bridge, anyway. But really, I see nothing wrong with Tweety's ruminations on the Dean scream matter. Geez.
This is really old stuff. Are you trying for a push for Dean for 2016, maybe? I see no other point.
dsc
(52,162 posts)race. It would be as if I, as a teacher of stats, didn't know what a mean was.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)out okay...it wasn't just the scream. It was how long he did it. He went on and on and on. No amount of editing or focusing could alter that. He was in trouble, anyway. He could have recovered, if he hadn't already been in trouble. But the scream looked like something a really inexperienced national candidate would do. Not presidential.
I like Dean. But he wasn't destined to win the Presidency.
dsc
(52,162 posts)in a silent room. It was a scream in a room in which many people were being loud. His scream was a totally appropriate speech given the circumstances.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)it to a level that was uncomfortable. Still, who doesn't make mistakes? He could have recovered, if he hadn't been in trouble already, as I said.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)Remember, he was an admirer of *'s codpiece while he was on that aircraft carrier.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)His report was occasioned by a new journal report that gave him the opportunity to revisit what really happened.
The new report was published in the journal Media, Culture & Society, which led to a report on it yesterday in the Washington Examiner:
December 5, 2012
Paul Bedard
Washington Secrets
It's eight years too late for the one-time Democratic presidential front-runner, but that manic scream Howard Dean screeched after losing January 2004 Iowa caucuses didn't happen the way TV showed it. In fact, it was drowned out by cheering Dean fans, according to an exhaustive new study of the much-mocked yell of "Yeaaah."
The journal Media, Culture & Society has determined that the sophisticated microphone Dean had in his fist was built to filter out surrounding noise for news crews filming the event, and by doing so unfairly broadcast his scream minus the building crowd chants the former Vermont governor felt compelled to yell over just to be heard.
Without the context of that crowd noise, said the journal, all TV news captured was Dean's rant.
"Through the medium of television, Dean's speech exhibited a man seemingly out of control," said the journal. "His voice and energy level rising higher and higher, he seemed to shift from intense to borderline manic, finally reaching the peak of a crescendo in what sounded like an inappropriately enthusiastic scream." And, the journal added, the result was media ridicule that killed his presidential chances.
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http://washingtonexaminer.com/howard-deans-scream-tv-screwed-him/article/2515137
The full journal report is behind a paywall, but you can find the abstract here:
http://mcs.sagepub.com/content/34/8/999.abstract
dsc
(52,162 posts)but he clearly implied that he had no idea that this had happened.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)include him. And if it didn't include tweety, according to tweety, it didn't happen.