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Okay who can't agree with this sign? (Original Post) WillParkinson Dec 2012 OP
Enthusiastic K & R! peacebird Dec 2012 #1
That's what it's all about. lpbk2713 Dec 2012 #2
Please Support Hard Working Americans Over Corporate Greed Blunt477 Dec 2012 #3
I disagree Renew Deal Dec 2012 #4
I disagree with your disagreement GatorLarry Dec 2012 #47
'$1 spent at a locally owned store is usually spent 6 to 15 times before it leaves the community' phantom power Dec 2012 #5
That's why I am part of the "No Chains" movement. cbayer Dec 2012 #6
And, lots of delicious food, too! dmr Dec 2012 #11
Hello girlfriend! Long time, no see. cbayer Dec 2012 #13
Like the local restaurant in a nearby town? longship Dec 2012 #19
Exactly like the local restaurant. The one you are likely to drive right by cbayer Dec 2012 #20
The independent grocer up the road buys from locals. longship Dec 2012 #33
Yeah, that's a long way to go, particularly if the prices are higher. cbayer Dec 2012 #54
We go to one of two local restaurants... WillParkinson Dec 2012 #36
I draw the line at homemade pasties Tunkamerica Dec 2012 #40
Shoppers of the US unite you have nothing to lose but your chains Dakota Flint Dec 2012 #24
Love it! cbayer Dec 2012 #26
We love doing that OriginalGeek Dec 2012 #52
Even if the food is not good, the social scene can be really intriguing. cbayer Dec 2012 #53
Great sign. Hopefully Ms. Warren can make one that simple to help mom and pops get the midnight Dec 2012 #7
K&R Whovian Dec 2012 #8
Excellent! nt SCVDem Dec 2012 #9
Third vacation homes are people, my friend. MNBrewer Dec 2012 #10
I do agree with the sign but in the City oldbanjo Dec 2012 #12
100% agree with that. LeftofObama Dec 2012 #15
I always find local businesses to support Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #23
are they able to sell stuff ? i might still buy from them JI7 Dec 2012 #32
Gonna show that sign to a few local small business owners! Bozita Dec 2012 #14
"Walmart smash!" tclambert Dec 2012 #16
Exactly! mcdeavitt Dec 2012 #17
I agree with that sign and I practice it daily slackmaster Dec 2012 #18
Turf Supper Club Is The Bomb! HangOnKids Dec 2012 #22
Yes! moondust Dec 2012 #21
Yes, say NO TO COSTLY TRADE AGREEMENTS LIKE Obama's TPP. grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #25
I also like to know where the business does ITS buying. TahitiNut Dec 2012 #27
This is GREAT! So true. . .it should be on every window on Mainstreet, USA! MindandSoul Dec 2012 #28
My bumper sticker says... JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #29
"Our customers are our shareholders"? Bibliovore Dec 2012 #30
Would probably be better to use the word 'stakeholders' rather than coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #31
the author probably intends most people to understand a metaphor. uncle ray Dec 2012 #50
The same goes for hole in the wall family restaurants Warpy Dec 2012 #34
like. nt NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #35
k&r TxVietVet Dec 2012 #37
AWE------SOME!!!!!! lexw Dec 2012 #38
Your Vote Counts! tecelote Dec 2012 #39
If the elective process were natural, you would be correct. merrily Dec 2012 #42
I ALWAYS Support Local LIBERAL and PROGRESSIVES businesses Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #41
Broke my heart to see a placard in the windows of my local stores supporting Romney this year. merrily Dec 2012 #43
I would prefer to support a local business. merrily Dec 2012 #44
Imagine what would happen if everyone that shopped at Walmart started shopping locally! tecelote Dec 2012 #45
We support our local restaurants. Two fabulous Turkish restaurants nearby and CTyankee Dec 2012 #46
So true santamargarita Dec 2012 #48
Yeah, because the employees, shareholders and suppliers of big companys don't deserve RB TexLa Dec 2012 #49
AMEN! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #51
Looks like a coke machine in the background. Marinedem Dec 2012 #55
The owners are the shareholders, but I agree with the sentiment. Deep13 Dec 2012 #56

GatorLarry

(55 posts)
47. I disagree with your disagreement
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:36 AM
Dec 2012

It's inconclusive and you're projecting something negative.

I say the worker is on his/her lunch break and eating ice cream.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
5. '$1 spent at a locally owned store is usually spent 6 to 15 times before it leaves the community'
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:15 PM
Dec 2012
Tim Mitchell in Northwest Earth Institute's Choices for Sustainable Living states, 'A dollar spent at a locally owned store is usually spent 6 to 15 times before it leaves the community. From $1, you create $5 to $14 in value within that community.' That's good news! He also states, 'Spend $1 at a national chain store, and 80% leaves town immediately.' That's bad news.

http://www.blueoregon.com/2005/11/buying_local_an/

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. That's why I am part of the "No Chains" movement.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:17 PM
Dec 2012

We we take long road trips, we make it a point to never sleep or eat in chains. Not only do we support the locals that way, we have a much richer experience.

longship

(40,416 posts)
19. Like the local restaurant in a nearby town?
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:57 PM
Dec 2012

It has a neon sign out front that says, "Eat". That's all. Home made meals at breakfast and lunch. They even have home made pasties -- always a Michigan favorite.

Yummy stuff!

But we have no grocery stores except Walmart and Meiers. One has to drive another 20+ miles north to find an independent grocer.

There is one hardware store left. They stay open because the local farms patronize them because of their unequivocal small engine expertease. There used to be four local hardware stores, but Lowes and Manards have driven the rest into non-existence.

Small towns should never let Walmart into their communities. It's bad for everybody.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
20. Exactly like the local restaurant. The one you are likely to drive right by
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 08:02 PM
Dec 2012

to get to the closest McDonalds or IHOP. Great website for this is roadfood.com. They even have a google earth app which is outstanding on road trips.

It's a lot harder when it comes to fuel and other supplies, though, I agree.

If you have local farms, do you not have local products from those farms?

longship

(40,416 posts)
33. The independent grocer up the road buys from locals.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 10:42 PM
Dec 2012

They have locally grown meat and vegetables when they can get it. The butcher there is especially good about this. This store is an addition 15-20 mile drive for me so I don't always make that trip for groceries. Regretably, prices are higher as well. But when I can afford it, I make the trip.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
54. Yeah, that's a long way to go, particularly if the prices are higher.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 01:28 PM
Dec 2012

I always make a point of going to a farmer's market when we go over to 'merica on the day before we leave. I grab some of just about everything and am willing to pay more, because that stuff is going to last and not be wasted.

WillParkinson

(16,862 posts)
36. We go to one of two local restaurants...
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 11:32 PM
Dec 2012

One serves vegan bar food, the other a family owned Italian place. They love to see us. We eat well, we tip well. The servers adore us. (Twenty-five years as a server has taught me manners when it comes to things like this.)

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
52. We love doing that
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:58 PM
Dec 2012

Every time we go out of town, whether for work or play, we won't eat anywhere we can get at home. Found a lot fantastic food that way.

and a couple not-so-fantastic places but it was still fun. lol

midnight

(26,624 posts)
7. Great sign. Hopefully Ms. Warren can make one that simple to help mom and pops get the
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:30 PM
Dec 2012

funding that the CEO's have been swimming in for the last decade....

oldbanjo

(690 posts)
12. I do agree with the sign but in the City
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:35 PM
Dec 2012

that I live in the Mom and Pop businesses are run by Christians that mark things up 400% and only care about what they can make today and don't worry about tomorrow. And that is the truth.

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
15. 100% agree with that.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:43 PM
Dec 2012

I try to shop locally, but when I see a business with the jesus fish on it, any business with freedom or liberty in the name, I turn and run the other way!

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
23. I always find local businesses to support
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 08:18 PM
Dec 2012

by seeing who is advertising in the Democratic newsletters or fundraisers. I will say that some businesses do mark things up too much, but I am willing to pay a small "premium" to support local small businesses. I realize that they do not get the same wholesale prices that places like Walmart get, so they can't price things that low.

But if all you have is the in-your-face Christians where you live, that would be a problem. And huge mark-ups are a problem. Keep looking.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
32. are they able to sell stuff ? i might still buy from them
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 10:37 PM
Dec 2012

since they would spend it on stuff like food , clothes etc.

while the big corps would not just buy a vacation home but give money to politicians who cut needed services while giving themselves more welfare.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
16. "Walmart smash!"
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:48 PM
Dec 2012

"Ugh! Must crush small business! Make mom and pop work for minimum wage! Make them go on food stamps! Walmart . . . SMASH!"

 

mcdeavitt

(14 posts)
17. Exactly!
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:49 PM
Dec 2012

I've had this hanging from my mirror in my barbershop for the past year. Its amazing how here in the "red zone" of Arizona so many of the RWN completely agree with this sentiment. Yet every election they head blindly down to the polls and chalk one up for more corporate welfare.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
18. I agree with that sign and I practice it daily
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:52 PM
Dec 2012

Every single day.

I get my coffee at Rebecca's (sole proprietorship) coffee shop instead of Starbucks.

I dine at the Turf Supper Club rather than Stuart Anderson's.

I patronize some family-owned Italian restaurants, never Olive Garden.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
22. Turf Supper Club Is The Bomb!
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 08:10 PM
Dec 2012

My little sis loves the joint, and she takes me every time I visit SD. Man the drinks are STRONG!!!!! Stuart Anderson's is still in business? YUCK!

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
27. I also like to know where the business does ITS buying.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 09:09 PM
Dec 2012

I ALWAYS give my business to owner-operated establishments when at all possible. I also do my best to determine who THEY do business with. Sadly, such a sign is no guarantee ... since hypocrisy is so pervasive.


JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
29. My bumper sticker says...
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 09:21 PM
Dec 2012

"Support Your Local Economy"

I bought it in a boutique type store in Geneva-On-The-Lake on the North Shore of Ohio, and I try to live up to it.

Bibliovore

(185 posts)
30. "Our customers are our shareholders"?
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 10:25 PM
Dec 2012

I agree with all of it except maybe that line -- unless the customers actually have shares in the business (co-op members do, though I've never seen a co-op called a mom-and-pop business), it seems a nice but inaccurate sentiment.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
31. Would probably be better to use the word 'stakeholders' rather than
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 10:31 PM
Dec 2012

'shareholders'; the latter, as you note, both denotes and connotes something other than what the author intends, methinks.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
34. The same goes for hole in the wall family restaurants
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 10:52 PM
Dec 2012

rather than big chains. If you want to give the CEOs of Applebee's, Olive Garden and Papa John's a black eye, go to the competition running little ethnic restaurants or even diners.

You won't be sorry. Often the food is a hell of a lot better, especially when it's pizza!

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
39. Your Vote Counts!
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 06:59 AM
Dec 2012

Where your money goes is more important than who we elect.

Because, a healthy community will naturally elect better representatives.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
42. If the elective process were natural, you would be correct.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:13 AM
Dec 2012

Who gets to fun in a primary is determined by things other than the self interest of voters.

 

Resonance_Chamber

(142 posts)
41. I ALWAYS Support Local LIBERAL and PROGRESSIVES businesses
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:10 AM
Dec 2012

I vote 365 days a year multiple times a day with my wallet it is one of the better ways an individual can make a real difference.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
43. Broke my heart to see a placard in the windows of my local stores supporting Romney this year.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:24 AM
Dec 2012

Most of them usually just go about their business, but placards abounded this year.

Fortunately, some of my favorite lunch places remained placard-less.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
44. I would prefer to support a local business.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:29 AM
Dec 2012

However, the people behind the complaint desk in Target, the cashier at the supermarket chain, etc. have kids they need to support, too.

And many of them cannot even dream of paying for dance lessons or college tuition.

So, while size does matter, it is not the only criterion.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
45. Imagine what would happen if everyone that shopped at Walmart started shopping locally!
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:43 AM
Dec 2012

We reap what we sow.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
46. We support our local restaurants. Two fabulous Turkish restaurants nearby and
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:31 AM
Dec 2012

a superb pizza place (even by New Haven standards, which are pretty damn high) and they have free delivery in our neighborhood.

When I visit my daughter in Boston we go to Legal Seafoods. Even tho they have expanded with several restaurants, they are still family owned.

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
49. Yeah, because the employees, shareholders and suppliers of big companys don't deserve
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:14 PM
Dec 2012

dance lessons, team jerseys, or food for their children. Or deserve to pay a mortgage or for college. The person putting this sign up sounds like they feel they are as Sarah Palin put it "the real Americans."
 

Marinedem

(373 posts)
55. Looks like a coke machine in the background.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 03:34 PM
Dec 2012

All I'm saying is, unless these folks are making their own soda, ketchup, cups, etc, you're still supporting big corporations. That's just the nature of things. The only venue I can really think of that is an exception might be a farmer's market.

I should also point out that at one point, Mcdonalds, Walmart, and others started out in the same boat as this business. How many stores can this person expand to before he/she is seen as no different from any other chain? It is a rare person indeed that has the ability to grow, but turns to him/herself and says "I have enough". Greed is the true human condition, and corporations are proof, not exceptions.

I support local/small businesses as well, I just don't delude myself into thinking that the BK down the street is any less important to its employees than the locally owned frozen custard stand is to its employees. Business is not black and white.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
56. The owners are the shareholders, but I agree with the sentiment.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 06:14 PM
Dec 2012

Except that small companies are usually supplied by big companies, so somewhere a CEO is still feathering his nest.

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