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onandup

(701 posts)
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:10 PM Oct 2024

Tensions rise between Harris and Biden teams

The relationship between Kamala Harris’ team and Joe Biden’s White House has been increasingly fraught in the final weeks before Election Day, 10 people familiar with the situation tell Axios. Biden’s team wants Harris to win the election, but many senior Biden aides remain wounded by the president being pushed out of his re-election bid and are still adjusting to being in a supporting role on the campaign trail.

[…]

Some on the Harris team say that top White House aides aren’t sufficiently coordinating Biden’s messaging and schedule to align with what’s best for the vice president’s campaign.


https://www.axios.com/2024/10/13/kamala-harris-biden-campaign-tension?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial

With all due respect, anyone on Team Biden worrying about their feelings needs to grow up. Joe endorsed Kamala immediately and is ready to do anything to get her elected, imo. This election is just too damn important.
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Tensions rise between Harris and Biden teams (Original Post) onandup Oct 2024 OP
It's admirable that they're loyal Frasier Balzov Oct 2024 #1
it's a bullshit story. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #29
Absolutely johnnyfins Oct 2024 #50
Without a doubt. JohnSJ Oct 2024 #55
Agreed INdemo Oct 2024 #59
Not really campaigns are weird that way. LeftInTX Oct 2024 #65
Yeah no. This isn't a standard campaign cycle. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #67
No seriously. It isn't about the candidate. It's about the people that work for them. LeftInTX Oct 2024 #68
They need to f*cking get over themselves and think of the country! NotHardly Oct 2024 #32
I strongly doubt any of this is real, please don't go hating on people who don't deserve it. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #54
Axios Metaphorical Oct 2024 #2
I agree. Axios founder Mike Allen doesn't radiate good vibes as a journalist. Dock_Yard Oct 2024 #44
More bullshit from Axios. Don't buy it. Ocelot II Oct 2024 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Oct 2024 #11
Sounds like the usual nonsense reporting newdeal2 Oct 2024 #4
Yeah, right. I don't believe this for one bit. Most of the news has been harping against the overwhelming support that SWBTATTReg Oct 2024 #5
"Strip away their publishing rights"? Sounds a bit Trumpish to me. Ocelot II Oct 2024 #10
It's tRUMP campaign garbage, and not news. It constantly tRUMP, tRUMP, tRUMP. There used to be a equal SWBTATTReg Oct 2024 #45
Trump campaign garbage is protected by the First Amendment, like it or not. Ocelot II Oct 2024 #62
I don't pay much attention to right leaning Alliepoo Oct 2024 #6
Right, anyone on Team Biden worrying about their feelings needs to grow up. elleng Oct 2024 #7
What indication have you seen that "Team Biden" displacedvermoter Oct 2024 #14
None, just from this article. elleng Oct 2024 #18
So there really is no need to be calling on anyone to grow up save, perhaps the author of the piece displacedvermoter Oct 2024 #21
If Could Unrec A Post... ProfessorGAC Oct 2024 #27
So says AXIOS... Please keep the SOURCE in mind. hlthe2b Oct 2024 #8
Look at all of those words Cirsium Oct 2024 #9
I don't believe this for a minute mcar Oct 2024 #12
Of course, it should be based on what's best for Harris' campaign iemanja Oct 2024 #13
Geez, sounds like Democrats are screwed! -misanthroptimist Oct 2024 #15
Axios.. another bogus story in their attempt to stay relevant..and failing... agingdem Oct 2024 #16
Ah, June 27th poster. what a shock NoRethugFriends Oct 2024 #17
Axios is largely owned by Cox Enterprises Kid Berwyn Oct 2024 #19
dems in disarry WhiteTara Oct 2024 #20
BINGO! AwakeAtLast Oct 2024 #24
Time to say adios,and axe Axios if BattleRow Oct 2024 #22
Oh bull puckey. deminks Oct 2024 #23
What perfectly exquisite timing for this exceedingly important issue DFW Oct 2024 #25
Translation: Someone was stuck in traffic and couldn't sign Doug Emhoff's Birthday Card. usonian Oct 2024 #26
Disarray!!! Think. Again. Oct 2024 #28
Dems in Disarray absurdity Lulu KC Oct 2024 #30
Yawn 🥱 live love laugh Oct 2024 #31
..... Blue Owl Oct 2024 #33
Talk about flooding the zone with disinformation Keepthesoulalive Oct 2024 #34
Biden endorsed Harris. That's it. This is another article trying to show Democrats in disarray AZLD4Candidate Oct 2024 #35
Biden doesn't control his campaign staff. LeftInTX Oct 2024 #66
"Reality check: Tensions between the Biden and Harris teams were likely inevitable." Lulu KC Oct 2024 #36
These people need to get Figarosmom Oct 2024 #37
I'm not buying this. Sorry, but given what we've seen with the lightning speed of Harris getting her PatrickforB Oct 2024 #38
Bullshit. Axios can go fuck itself with a firehose. notroot Oct 2024 #39
Baloney! Or as Joe would say "Malarkey!" KPN Oct 2024 #40
More rumor and inuendo being pushed along by right wingers aimed at discouraging Democrats. lees1975 Oct 2024 #41
When is some real, genuine high quality journalism going to show up and hammer on all of Trump's crimes, extremism, lees1975 Oct 2024 #43
Not Necessary Abundance77 Oct 2024 #42
I don't believe it dlk Oct 2024 #46
... littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #47
This has a 0% chance of being true. Kingofalldems Oct 2024 #48
Ignore the noise relayerbob Oct 2024 #49
DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!! ARGHHH!! spudspud Oct 2024 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Oct 2024 #52
This is garbage. RandySF Oct 2024 #53
Codswallop Botany Oct 2024 #56
Tempest in a teapot. Seriously? Those Biden loyalist better wake up. brush Oct 2024 #57
I call it BS Miami Blue Oct 2024 #58
Do I have to go over this again? Axios is owned by Cox Enterprises TBF Oct 2024 #60
I've never tried to censor a post Easterncedar Oct 2024 #61
Yeah not a good try there. Kingofalldems Oct 2024 #63
Isn't AXIOS a Mark Halperin outfit? ThePartyThatListens Oct 2024 #64
June 27 was a popular day! obamanut2012 Oct 2024 #69

johnnyfins

(2,528 posts)
50. Absolutely
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:53 PM
Oct 2024

Somehow, somewhere, I bet this can be traced back to MAGA fuckery. I aint buyin it.

LeftInTX

(32,863 posts)
65. Not really campaigns are weird that way.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:45 PM
Oct 2024

Campaign teams get caught up in "loyalty" and "cliques". It's weird.

LeftInTX

(32,863 posts)
68. No seriously. It isn't about the candidate. It's about the people that work for them.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:59 PM
Oct 2024

They can be weird and egotistical. They often are thinking of their next gig too. Many will go on to other things in the midterms and they have their loyalties and little teams.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
54. I strongly doubt any of this is real, please don't go hating on people who don't deserve it.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:58 PM
Oct 2024

Metaphorical

(2,484 posts)
2. Axios
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:13 PM
Oct 2024

Take this with a shakerful of salt, given the source (Axios definitely tilts right). It falls into the 'Harris campaign in disarray" category, especially as a significant number of Biden's current staff is out stumping for Harris at this point.

Dock_Yard

(225 posts)
44. I agree. Axios founder Mike Allen doesn't radiate good vibes as a journalist.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:28 PM
Oct 2024

Just my opinion. Their org and choices of stories come off as strange. Monetization oriented?

Ocelot II

(126,323 posts)
3. More bullshit from Axios. Don't buy it.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:14 PM
Oct 2024

Even if there were some minor disputes, even Axios, with its stupid bullet points, admits at the very end of the article and contrary to its own headline,

"Despite the sore feelings among some Biden aides, much of the president's staff is actively rooting for and trying to work toward a Harris victory.

There is frustration about coordination among senior staffers on both sides, but much of the mid-level staff is working well together, people familiar with the dynamic told Axios.

The White House denied there's tension among senior staffers."

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #3)

newdeal2

(3,475 posts)
4. Sounds like the usual nonsense reporting
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:14 PM
Oct 2024

They are on the same team and have the same goal. I’m sure reporters can find a few people who have sour grapes to make this seem like a big deal.

SWBTATTReg

(25,527 posts)
5. Yeah, right. I don't believe this for one bit. Most of the news has been harping against the overwhelming support that
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:16 PM
Oct 2024

Kamala has and are trying desperately trying to stifle it.

F**k them and the high horse they rode in on. When all of this is said and done, we all need to start going after these traitorous news outlets that harped on tRUMP nonstop, free campaign ads out the wazoo, non-stop, and strip away their publishing rights, as they didn't give equal space/equal reporting (if anything, just to be fair and unbiased, and they are not being that way).

Ocelot II

(126,323 posts)
10. "Strip away their publishing rights"? Sounds a bit Trumpish to me.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:28 PM
Oct 2024

Trump is threatening to revoke the broadcast licenses of networks whose reporting he dislikes, in blatant disregard of the First Amendment. Let's not be even suggesting anything like that.

SWBTATTReg

(25,527 posts)
45. It's tRUMP campaign garbage, and not news. It constantly tRUMP, tRUMP, tRUMP. There used to be a equal
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:32 PM
Oct 2024

thing going on, they give 10 minutes to tRUMP, then 10 minutes to Kamala. It's not like that anymore.

Ocelot II

(126,323 posts)
62. Trump campaign garbage is protected by the First Amendment, like it or not.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 07:40 PM
Oct 2024

And the fairness doctrine was repealed in 1987.

Alliepoo

(2,729 posts)
6. I don't pay much attention to right leaning
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:18 PM
Oct 2024

Axios. I get their daily news in my email and they def lean way right. Sometimes they appear to be balanced but it’s mostly on local reporting, not national.

displacedvermoter

(3,890 posts)
14. What indication have you seen that "Team Biden"
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:31 PM
Oct 2024

has been anything but supportive of the Harris/Walz ticket, besides this article?

displacedvermoter

(3,890 posts)
21. So there really is no need to be calling on anyone to grow up save, perhaps the author of the piece
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:43 PM
Oct 2024

ProfessorGAC

(73,774 posts)
27. If Could Unrec A Post...
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:41 PM
Oct 2024

.. this would be a post where said capability would come to play.
I don't think DUers come here to be the target of a priggish lecture.

Cirsium

(2,758 posts)
9. Look at all of those words
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:27 PM
Oct 2024

That article has a lot of words. It has a lot of bullet points, too. Lots of speculation. Lots of nothing.

Way, way down in the article we find this:

"White House spokesperson Andrew Bates told Axios: 'President Biden endorsed Vice President Harris immediately after leaving the race, rejecting other approaches that would divide the party, and has attested to her leadership abilities and continually made clear his support for her.'"

In other words, the entire theme of the article is BS, the usual "Democrats in disarray" idiocy.

iemanja

(56,370 posts)
13. Of course, it should be based on what's best for Harris' campaign
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:31 PM
Oct 2024

She needs to win. As far as Biden being pushed out, that ship has sailed.

-misanthroptimist

(1,388 posts)
15. Geez, sounds like Democrats are screwed!
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:32 PM
Oct 2024

Or maybe they're not and MSM is just trying to keep people watching and clicking their dubious offerings.

agingdem

(8,592 posts)
16. Axios.. another bogus story in their attempt to stay relevant..and failing...
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:33 PM
Oct 2024

Axios should stick to predicting fashion trends...they suck at politics..

WhiteTara

(30,974 posts)
20. dems in disarry
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:42 PM
Oct 2024

Doom. Oh, look! Trump stranded a bunch of old people in the desert! Maskarovka at work.

DFW

(58,603 posts)
25. What perfectly exquisite timing for this exceedingly important issue
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:38 PM
Oct 2024

Like Roger Ailes said when he first became boss at Fox "News," and was asked if accuracy in reporting would be a top priority:

"We have an agenda."

Is anyone going to tell me that any other answer is credible when I ask WTF is this article or its posting about?

usonian

(19,395 posts)
26. Translation: Someone was stuck in traffic and couldn't sign Doug Emhoff's Birthday Card.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:40 PM
Oct 2024

DEMS IN DISARRAY!

Keepthesoulalive

(1,589 posts)
34. Talk about flooding the zone with disinformation
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:53 PM
Oct 2024

Kamala is not having enough rallies, black men are voting for asshole, now Biden and Harris teams are fighting and the polls. We have an election to win not have a constant barrage of nonsense that is seeking to divide us.

AZLD4Candidate

(6,676 posts)
35. Biden endorsed Harris. That's it. This is another article trying to show Democrats in disarray
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:55 PM
Oct 2024

This is a hit piece by Axios! Shame on them!

There's more of a civil war in the Republican Party between MAGAts and non MAGAts. But that would make Orange Hitler look bad.

LeftInTX

(32,863 posts)
66. Biden doesn't control his campaign staff.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:47 PM
Oct 2024

Campaign teams are their own little universe. They can be petty and cliquey.

Many times the candidate you work for is because "your friends work for them".

Lulu KC

(8,169 posts)
36. "Reality check: Tensions between the Biden and Harris teams were likely inevitable."
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:00 PM
Oct 2024


Like TENSION is so weird!?? Ooooh, there's TENSION! So scary!

How could there not be tension? I would like to see any group of humans in a situation with this much going on at one time who would not feel and display "tension."

It will come out okay in the end between nearly all of these people, and I can't think of any other two leaders who would do a better job at conveying a tone of "we're all on the same team."



Figarosmom

(7,272 posts)
37. These people need to get
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:14 PM
Oct 2024

With the program as the saying goes. We don't need sabotage from our own side. ( again)And of course rumor mongers Axios has to put it out there for trumps team to exploit. The Hill does the same kind of reporting. They both are inside Edition DC. Just tabloids.

PatrickforB

(15,255 posts)
38. I'm not buying this. Sorry, but given what we've seen with the lightning speed of Harris getting her
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:17 PM
Oct 2024

campaign up and running - that HAD to have plenty of direct help from Joe Biden. It just did. I've never seen the Dems move this fast or this efficiently.

Remember that our media is ALL ABOUT shareholder PROFITS, with nothing, and I mean nothing in terms of fiduciary responsibility for TRUTH in news reporting. That's how it is.

This is why we have the 25 right-wing polls that just got released - oh, Trump is AHEAD now! Oh, the Harris campaign's honeymoon is OVER (60 minutes). Oh, Trump is now AHEAD in battle ground states!" Oh, young black men aren't gonna vote for Harris, they want Trump...

And so on, and so on, and scooby dooby doo!

A horserace is GOOD for shareholder PROFITS, don't you know.

This is also why shit like Trump's calls to Putin, the blackmail story about the GOP reps and senators honey-trapped into compromising things like the drug-fueled sex party Gaetz took the HS junior to. And Trump's massive deterioration?

Nope. Bad for PROFITS. We gotta have a HORSERACE, folks!

I'll tell you, the billionaires on Wall Street are rubbing their hands in GLEE, because they are cashing in on this campaign like no other in history. Harris has already raised $1 billion. God only knows how many billions will go down the Wall Street media PROFIT rat-hole before November 5.

The whole thing is a huge PROFIT game for billionaire parasites and big Wall Street fund managers, and they are cashing in!

Make no mistake - these orc-like Wall Street greed lizards care NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING for this republic. Not at all. They are in it for the money.

The only thing that is even propping up truth is the MSNBC crew, and they are there at suffrance, only because there is a market for them, and their ratings are good. But those ratings dip? They will be gone. Because again, the fiduciary responsibility of the senior executives at the NYT, NBC, CBS, ABC and FOX is ONLY to generate shareholder PROFITS, nothing more, nothing less.

 

notroot

(267 posts)
39. Bullshit. Axios can go fuck itself with a firehose.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:17 PM
Oct 2024

Maybe that'll put out their pants, which are on fire from all the fucking lying.

The MSM only hurts itself with this transparent bullshit.

Best not to spread their lies without the context that they're liars who lie.

KPN

(16,800 posts)
40. Baloney! Or as Joe would say "Malarkey!"
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:18 PM
Oct 2024

Move on folks! Ignore this crap and keep up the fight.

lees1975

(6,718 posts)
41. More rumor and inuendo being pushed along by right wingers aimed at discouraging Democrats.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:19 PM
Oct 2024

Don't believe a word of this tripe.

lees1975

(6,718 posts)
43. When is some real, genuine high quality journalism going to show up and hammer on all of Trump's crimes, extremism,
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:21 PM
Oct 2024

dementia, mental incapacity and Vance's corruption and incompetence and opportunistic cashing in?

Let's have some real journalists step up to the plate. This is an F minus performance.

Abundance77

(20 posts)
42. Not Necessary
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:20 PM
Oct 2024

This article serves no purpose. Please leave this out. Infighting is probably not unusual.
We have so much at stake here. Don't give the GOPs something to exploit.

relayerbob

(7,236 posts)
49. Ignore the noise
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:45 PM
Oct 2024

These people create scandal to sell clicks and you just helped them out by posting a link to their bullshit

spudspud

(599 posts)
51. DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!! ARGHHH!!
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:54 PM
Oct 2024

“Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!” Axios's source? No less than 10 people. "Trust me bro."

Response to onandup (Original post)

brush

(60,769 posts)
57. Tempest in a teapot. Seriously? Those Biden loyalist better wake up.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 06:05 PM
Oct 2024

What happened is fo the best and is not the VP's fault. They should be proud of Joe's selflessness and the flawless job VP Harris has done.

No time to be grouching and complaining as we need every effort to defeat the orange criminal.

Miami Blue

(324 posts)
58. I call it BS
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 06:07 PM
Oct 2024

Just STOP it ✋🏻
Enough already!
This kind of BS is not helping us unite
to deliver a victory in November.

TBF

(35,174 posts)
60. Do I have to go over this again? Axios is owned by Cox Enterprises
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 06:14 PM
Oct 2024

Cox Family net worth - $41 billion.

It is in their interest to stir the pot. Why are you helping them?

Easterncedar

(4,760 posts)
61. I've never tried to censor a post
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 07:39 PM
Oct 2024

But this one seems so clearly to break the rules that I’m tempted.

Please, sensible people, don’t get sucked in by this malicious onsense.

 
64. Isn't AXIOS a Mark Halperin outfit?
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 08:09 PM
Oct 2024

He's the MFer that had to be reluctantly dropped by 'Morning Joe' due to his woman molesting ways, or some such thing.

If you believe that outlet then let me interest you in a bridge I have for sale in the borough of Brooklyn.

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