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madaboutharry

(41,971 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 01:19 PM Oct 2024

CNN is really milking the stupid gaff from Biden.

They started the segment bashing Biden as a demented old man and then went on to say how the gaff is "a gift to republicans."
Apparently, clarifying that he was talking about the person who actually called Puerto Rico a floating Island of garbage and not Trump supporters seems to not matter.

Such Bullshit. This isn't "a gift to republicans."

No one is going to change their vote because of anything Biden said or didn't say.

Meanwhile, J.D. Vance, who is actually on the ticket November 5 said he is "sick and tired of everyone getting so offended over every little thing" and that he "is so over it." Fuck these evil people.

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CNN is really milking the stupid gaff from Biden. (Original Post) madaboutharry Oct 2024 OP
The standards are insanely different kevink077 Oct 2024 #1
Yes, and regardless of B.See Oct 2024 #15
People complain that Democrats are "too nice" Mad_Machine76 Oct 2024 #19
Well,the GOP have been dissing Joe as senile. BattleRow Oct 2024 #38
I heard it said: AleksS Oct 2024 #67
yeah RJ_MacReady Oct 2024 #2
They really have double standards Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #3
Problem is they really don't have ANY STANDARDS, or they keep changing them. robleb Oct 2024 #39
I'm pretty sure they think that having AleksS Oct 2024 #68
The left can't sneeze and the right can advocate shooting protesters. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2024 #4
Yup, yet Vance said school shootings are a 'fact of life' with little media push back. appalachiablue Oct 2024 #44
Vice President Harris didn't say this. TFG should bronxiteforever Oct 2024 #5
This does give kamala the opportunity to play "good cop" by reiterating she's for all Americans andym Oct 2024 #6
Majority of Americans agree with Pres Biden ...... Lovie777 Oct 2024 #7
Definitely! Lulu KC Oct 2024 #34
No....CNN Itself Is the "Gift to Republicans." The_Counsel Oct 2024 #8
Such horseshit. Its a way for them to try to take the heat off trump, but it won't work tulipsandroses Oct 2024 #9
Post removed Post removed Oct 2024 #10
They're okay with Trump calling the whole country Garbage Thrill Oct 2024 #11
'Tis a fun day indeed for the media EarlG Oct 2024 #12
This! happy feet Oct 2024 #33
The media just wants the hits/ratings AdamGG Oct 2024 #56
We won't know for sure until the exit polls.... TheRealNorth Oct 2024 #13
If this is the excuse they're looking for... lame54 Oct 2024 #14
I don't think Biden undercut anything. madaboutharry Oct 2024 #17
I've changed my mind on that and honestly don't think so crimycarny Oct 2024 #62
What do you gain by watching this on CNN? Kaleva Oct 2024 #16
Apparently, very little! madaboutharry Oct 2024 #18
I imagine one has to sit thru the bad in order to not miss the quality news! Kaleva Oct 2024 #55
Manufactured Outrage Kid Berwyn Oct 2024 #20
Trump called the whole of America a garbage can. Garbage is found inside a garbage can. Meaning Trump Solly Mack Oct 2024 #21
Time for us to ignore their phony outrage. Emile Oct 2024 #22
It really is. The more people attempt to answer for it, the more people play to the GOP narrative. Solly Mack Oct 2024 #24
this seems like something Anderson Cooper would love PedroXimenez Oct 2024 #23
I don't think MSM will ever get me back Joinfortmill Oct 2024 #25
The problem with the mainstream media Macrophylla Oct 2024 #26
The question... agingdem Oct 2024 #27
FUCK CNN Gaytano70 Oct 2024 #28
Not with a ten foot pole! dchill Oct 2024 #54
Ha! Gaytano70 Oct 2024 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Oct 2024 #29
Apparently, cnn now thinks Biden is no longer an old fuddy-duddy with senior moments. unblock Oct 2024 #30
Well, we all know the CNN CEO (whose fiduciary responsibility is ONLY to generate shareholder PROFITS) PatrickforB Oct 2024 #31
The double standard is infuriating shotten99 Oct 2024 #32
With all due respect to Pres. Biden & VP Harris and all good democrats.... robleb Oct 2024 #35
It isn't a stupid gaffe until Democrats consent to agree with the ridiculously preloaded media. jaxexpat Oct 2024 #36
Actually, the title of this thread serves as Democratic Anti-Propaganda. madaboutharry Oct 2024 #59
What CNN will do.... robleb Oct 2024 #37
I was wrong robleb Oct 2024 #73
who gives a F President Biden s not running for re-election ! kimbutgar Oct 2024 #40
The wisest political advice I've heard in some time came from Jared Kushner. No, really. Midnight Writer Oct 2024 #41
Lawless v Flawless. Sick of this shit Mr.WeRP Oct 2024 #42
I tuned in to CSPAN to check if they'd be covering Deminpenn Oct 2024 #43
All every Dem needs to say is "Donald Trump called the Deminpenn Oct 2024 #45
We need to get ala-cart cable IbogaProject Oct 2024 #46
Remember RJW62 Oct 2024 #47
Yup. Typical Faux outrage from CNN. JohnSJ Oct 2024 #48
That's my President. He always tells the truth. Trump supporters are garbage. Autumn Oct 2024 #49
He now says he did not say that. former9thward Oct 2024 #69
So they say. I really don't care. Trump and his supporters are garbage. Filthy, Autumn Oct 2024 #71
Rinse and repeat Cosmocat Oct 2024 #50
Vote with your eyes. Turn it off. Scrivener7 Oct 2024 #51
OMG BlueInPhilly Oct 2024 #52
I'm definitely not voting for Biden after this. Oh wait.... OnDoutside Oct 2024 #53
The talking heads on CNN Mblaze Oct 2024 #57
Interesting crimycarny Oct 2024 #58
A clip from September isn't old, it was a month and a half ago! madaboutharry Oct 2024 #63
Ok, "older" then crimycarny Oct 2024 #66
The solution to the CNN problem is very simple guys. ThePartyThatListens Oct 2024 #60
Joe clarified quickly HereForTheParty Oct 2024 #61
Gotta make dems look bad or the big man will be angry! Brainfodder Oct 2024 #64
CNN doesn't really care about America DSandra Oct 2024 #65
Pretty sure I'm "vermin", so whatthefuckever. aocommunalpunch Oct 2024 #70

B.See

(5,909 posts)
15. Yes, and regardless of
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 02:05 PM
Oct 2024

the outcome, we should remember the MSM's treacherous double standard, forever.

Mad_Machine76

(24,884 posts)
19. People complain that Democrats are "too nice"
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 02:10 PM
Oct 2024

and that we just sit there and constantly "take it" from Republicans but the minute we punch back, suddenly the media and everybody get the GD vapors!

BattleRow

(1,732 posts)
38. Well,the GOP have been dissing Joe as senile.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:18 PM
Oct 2024

Why the big deal about his comment?
Trump,who denied senility ,

is far more culpable for his garbage can remark.

AleksS

(1,712 posts)
67. I heard it said:
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 04:18 PM
Oct 2024

That republicans can be lawless, while democrats have to be flawless.

AleksS

(1,712 posts)
68. I'm pretty sure they think that having
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 04:19 PM
Oct 2024

double standards means their standards are just twice as good.

They're not smart people. Garbage, really.

Eliot Rosewater

(33,201 posts)
4. The left can't sneeze and the right can advocate shooting protesters.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 01:23 PM
Oct 2024

Just another example of how completely broken the society is.

appalachiablue

(43,531 posts)
44. Yup, yet Vance said school shootings are a 'fact of life' with little media push back.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:29 PM
Oct 2024

PHOENIX (AP) — Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance said Thursday that he lamented that school shootings are a “fact of life” and argued the U.S. needs to harden security to prevent more carnage like the shooting this week that left four dead in Georgia...
https://apnews.com/article/jd-vance-georgia-shooting-7d7727a1aff8491f66914a4d8a14cd8c

bronxiteforever

(10,637 posts)
5. Vice President Harris didn't say this. TFG should
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 01:24 PM
Oct 2024

know that VPs don’t speak for the President. Just ask the Hang Mike Pence guy.

andym

(6,020 posts)
6. This does give kamala the opportunity to play "good cop" by reiterating she's for all Americans
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 01:24 PM
Oct 2024

as in the good cop/bad cop game used to influence people.

Lulu KC

(8,168 posts)
34. Definitely!
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:14 PM
Oct 2024

But it was a gaffe, his specialty, and really? I love him for his gaffes. I just love him. I'm so glad he decided to not run so that he can get a break from these vultures.

But the last time I really checked (last night), it was a mumbled mess and no one was sure that he actually said they were garbage. I need to check on the latest status of that.

It doesn't matter to me. I love him, they are garbage, he knows he shouldn't have said it, oopsie. Move on!

The_Counsel

(1,753 posts)
8. No....CNN Itself Is the "Gift to Republicans."
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 01:39 PM
Oct 2024

The have been since forever. They may as well be Fox News--they just hide behind "bothsiderism..."

Ignore them.

tulipsandroses

(7,701 posts)
9. Such horseshit. Its a way for them to try to take the heat off trump, but it won't work
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 01:42 PM
Oct 2024

You can't make Biden's defense of Puerto Ricans a thing. There are not MAGATS who were going to vote for Harris/Walz that will change their mind based on what Biden said. There are not people who were offended by the Nazi rally that heard what Biden said and will change their mind to vote for trump.
trump has yet to disavow or apologize for the numerous hateful things said at his Nazi rally. trying to make this stick to Biden won't work. It won't stop them from trying though. It will be on a loop on RW media. It won't land the same to people outside of that bubble.

Response to madaboutharry (Original post)

EarlG

(23,059 posts)
12. 'Tis a fun day indeed for the media
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 01:51 PM
Oct 2024

They get to have one whole fun day of "WHOOPEE BOTHSIDERISM!!!" now that they've got one single Biden gaffe to highlight versus the daily, if not hourly, trashing of America (and critical blocs of American swing voters) that Trump is engaging in.

I just saw Biden's comment in context. It's clear that the "garbage" he was describing was Trump and his supporters' "demonization of Latinos." Republicans are going to try and run with it anyway as "Basket of Deplorables Part II" and the media will give them a great assist, but I don't think it matters.

The reason Trump's Nazi rally gaffe (which was not even committed by Trump) was such a big deal is because swing voters that the Trump campaign is desperately trying to woo were directly insulted. Trump NEEDS those votes, and to have one of his minions piss off the hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans who live in swing states was just a completely boneheaded move.

But who did Biden insult (even if he insulted them directly, which he didn't)? Well, garbage people. Trump supporters. People who already weren't going to vote for Harris in a million years. So I wouldn't worry about this. This is not "Basket of Deplorables" all over again. My guess is that it will be a one day story that will not move the needle in any way.

AdamGG

(1,729 posts)
56. The media just wants the hits/ratings
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:48 PM
Oct 2024

Trump saying insane racist shit has been so common for so long that it's dog bites man. But, Biden hasn't been in the news much lately and this story of Dump's side ju-jitso-ing it into a win feels more man bites dog to them. It plays more to the soap opera drama that they want to drive viewership.

If you had the painful job of listening to all the insults Donald Trump spews there would surely be thousands of insults directed at Harris supporters to match Biden's one comment.

TheRealNorth

(9,629 posts)
13. We won't know for sure until the exit polls....
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 01:57 PM
Oct 2024

But Harris' campaign for the past month has been trying to court moderate Republicans that (likely) voted for Trump in the past. Biden undercut that.

madaboutharry

(41,971 posts)
17. I don't think Biden undercut anything.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 02:06 PM
Oct 2024

This is republicans wanting to have it three ways and being big hypocrites. .

1. "Biden is demented and can't put a coherent sentence together!"

2. "Oh, my God! Biden called us garbage! He knew exactly what he was saying. We are so offended."

3. J.D. Vance referring to Puerto Rico being called a "Floating Island of garbage.": "I am so sick and tired of people being offended by every little thing. I am so over it!"

Republicans are good at faux outrage. It's just more bullshit.

crimycarny

(1,866 posts)
62. I've changed my mind on that and honestly don't think so
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 04:06 PM
Oct 2024

Last night when I first heard of Biden's comments I was worried because I knew what the media would do--constant 7x24 coverage of Biden's comments and nothing else.

However, I'm not seeing this gain much traction on other social media outlets, despite CNN's desperate attempts to make it so. I think everyone is outrage fatigued.

If it were Biden running for President the media could flame this into a bigger deal but Kamala is the candidate, not Biden. Also, Biden hasn't been seen on the campaign trail with Kamala all that much, so the ties between her and Biden aren't as closely tied as, say, Kamala and Obama.

I think this will fizzle, I hope I'm right.

Solly Mack

(95,299 posts)
21. Trump called the whole of America a garbage can. Garbage is found inside a garbage can. Meaning Trump
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 02:25 PM
Oct 2024

called everyone in America, to include his own supporters, garbage.

But they'll pretend Biden's comment was just so offensive.



Solly Mack

(95,299 posts)
24. It really is. The more people attempt to answer for it, the more people play to the GOP narrative.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 02:32 PM
Oct 2024

PedroXimenez

(673 posts)
23. this seems like something Anderson Cooper would love
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 02:31 PM
Oct 2024

if he hasn't already, i'm sure he's chomping at the bit to get after this.

Joinfortmill

(18,610 posts)
25. I don't think MSM will ever get me back
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 02:41 PM
Oct 2024

I go to trusted podcasts and youtube channels, like Talking Feds, now.

Macrophylla

(201 posts)
26. The problem with the mainstream media
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 02:44 PM
Oct 2024

They all think that their job is to be TMZ.
They do infotainment not journalism

agingdem

(8,590 posts)
27. The question...
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 02:53 PM
Oct 2024

Last edited Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Is there anyone disputing the veracity of Biden’s garbage remark?.. I suspect Trump’s garbage supporters just figured out we Dems are no longer playing nice..when the MAGA garbage goes low we get them on the ground, step on their reptilian necks and squeeze

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unblock

(55,409 posts)
30. Apparently, cnn now thinks Biden is no longer an old fuddy-duddy with senior moments.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:01 PM
Oct 2024

Apparently, now his every word is super serious and intimately tied to someone else's presidential campaign....

PatrickforB

(15,252 posts)
31. Well, we all know the CNN CEO (whose fiduciary responsibility is ONLY to generate shareholder PROFITS)
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:02 PM
Oct 2024

is in the tank for Trump. The MAGA grift-machine is so profitable actually that he just has to get on board. Better for Wall Street dontcha know!

Those poor widdle billionaires just don't have enough money so they need another tax cut! This is why Koch, Musk, Thiel, Leo and 60 other dirtbag billionaire PARASITES have propped up Trump, because he wouldn't even be IN THIS if it wasn't for these traitorous pieces of garbage.

They ARE garbage and Trump supporters are also garbage, if they subscribe to the statements made in the Nazi-MAGA rally at Madison Square Garden.

robleb

(301 posts)
35. With all due respect to Pres. Biden & VP Harris and all good democrats....
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:15 PM
Oct 2024

Trump supports have seen and heard the Trump racism and hate and violent rhetoric for way too long - they know him. They know what he stands for (or doesn't). They know what kind of person he is.

If they still support him, then in my opinion (which doesn't rock the country or civlization) THEY ARE GARBAGE.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
36. It isn't a stupid gaffe until Democrats consent to agree with the ridiculously preloaded media.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:16 PM
Oct 2024

Opening titles such as this need removal for anti Democratic propaganda.

madaboutharry

(41,971 posts)
59. Actually, the title of this thread serves as Democratic Anti-Propaganda.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 04:00 PM
Oct 2024

Discussing media bias, double standards, and republican bullshit is an important discussion to have.

robleb

(301 posts)
37. What CNN will do....
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:17 PM
Oct 2024

tonight flood their shows with the likes of Ryan Girdusky, Scott "head up his ass" Jennings, and David "penis head" Urban.
Tired of their B.S.

robleb

(301 posts)
73. I was wrong
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 10:31 PM
Oct 2024
CNN brought in to the discussion tonight a Desantis campaign director and Cruz/Graham chief of staff..... now that is real political credibility! NOT!

Midnight Writer

(24,375 posts)
41. The wisest political advice I've heard in some time came from Jared Kushner. No, really.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:25 PM
Oct 2024

Last edited Wed Oct 30, 2024, 04:24 PM - Edit history (1)

When there is a controversy over a "gaffe" or a scandal, just shut up about it.

Don't make excuses, don't try to explain.

Just shut up.

Within a short time, the media will move on to the next story.

Don't give them a "peg" to keep the story alive. The more you talk about it, the more coverage it will get. Keep quiet, and with no new developments the story will sink beneath the waves. It is a surprisingly effective strategy.

Example: It was revealed recently that Trump accepted 10 million dollars from the government of Egypt. Nobody from Team Trump would comment on the story. Now that story has disappeared.

Deminpenn

(16,920 posts)
43. I tuned in to CSPAN to check if they'd be covering
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:27 PM
Oct 2024

Harris' Harrisburg rally. They had a presser with Council of Econ Advisers, Jared Bernstein on discussing the latest economic data releases. Since econ was my major, I found it interesting and informative. Bernstein gave interesting informative answers to reporters' questions. A lot of stuff was a bit in the weeds, but I find that enlightening. When it was over, CSAPN switched to the WH daily brief and it was all about Biden's inarticulate statement. I turned it off, but I'd bet there was not one question about the details of any policy or pending legislation or anything else of interest to those of us outside the DC bubble.

Deminpenn

(16,920 posts)
45. All every Dem needs to say is "Donald Trump called the
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:30 PM
Oct 2024

United States of America, 'the trash can of the world' on at least two different occassions". Next question.

IbogaProject

(4,676 posts)
46. We need to get ala-cart cable
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:31 PM
Oct 2024

So we can refuse to support networks like CNN, Fox News, and whatever we don't wish to support. Frame it as a free market reform to let consumers choose what to subsidize. I hope that can get passed next congress. Personally I cut the cable in 2004 or 2005 for them sanewashing W.

Autumn

(48,177 posts)
71. So they say. I really don't care. Trump and his supporters are garbage. Filthy,
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 04:48 PM
Oct 2024

stinking, vile, maggot filled garbage. That is what the puss filled orange sack Donald Trump and his supporters are. Each and every single one, fucking garbage. I stand by what my President says.





Cosmocat

(15,208 posts)
50. Rinse and repeat
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:34 PM
Oct 2024

This has been the "liberal media" MO my entire adult life going back to the 90s ...

Any time the Rs say or do something horrible, they HAVE to wildly over react so some stupid shit or complete nonsense with the Ds to make up for having to call the Rs out for the actually horrible thing they said or did.

I don't have enough time in the remainder of my life to list the examples.

BlueInPhilly

(971 posts)
52. OMG
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:37 PM
Oct 2024

Biden is not the candidate
He is not wrong

Please delete this thread. You are breathing life into something so insignificant.

Mblaze

(620 posts)
57. The talking heads on CNN
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:51 PM
Oct 2024

Seem to be okay with their down-spiraling direction. They are either truly willing to bend the knee or are truly in on the game.

crimycarny

(1,866 posts)
58. Interesting
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 03:54 PM
Oct 2024

I posted about this last night but my post was deleted for breaking the rules of "spreading right-wing talking points".

I guess I should have worded my post differently, but my concern (which turned out to be true) is the media would run with this 7x24 and talk about almost nothing else, which is exactly what they are doing.

That said, as worried as I was last night (which is why I posted: I was wondering how Democrats would fight back), I feel like the comment isn't getting the "legs" the media had hoped for.

Regardless, it is so frustrating to see the blatant double standard by the media.

The Lincoln Project found an old clip of Trump calling those who surrounded Kamala as "scum" and "absolute garbage". Media doesn't cover any of this. It's just "Trump being Trump".


madaboutharry

(41,971 posts)
63. A clip from September isn't old, it was a month and a half ago!
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 04:06 PM
Oct 2024

This tweet from The Lincoln Project proves again the laziness of the media in this country.

Thanks for sharing.

crimycarny

(1,866 posts)
66. Ok, "older" then
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 04:09 PM
Oct 2024

I saw a clip on CNN today by Dana Bash, of all people, showing clip after clip of Trump saying much more vile things about Democrats. I was pleasantly surprised. Shocked me to see Dana do this but I'm glad she did.

 
60. The solution to the CNN problem is very simple guys.
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 04:01 PM
Oct 2024

Stop watching.

I sure did, many many years ago.

Brainfodder

(7,535 posts)
64. Gotta make dems look bad or the big man will be angry!
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 04:06 PM
Oct 2024


I can't wait until the GOAT of assholes goes through all the trials and even more added and all his crime time is front and center in GROSS AF detail on all his exploits, I expect nothing less than PUKE WORTHY kompromat on his proclivities as well?

DSandra

(1,629 posts)
65. CNN doesn't really care about America
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 04:09 PM
Oct 2024

And that bullshit of IOKIYAAR but heaven forbid a Democrat say something controversial!

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