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Last Night in Puerto Rico: (Original Post) 634-5789 Nov 2024 OP
Get thee to the greatest page fr visibility malaise Nov 2024 #1
AND--get thee to full STATEHOOD!! slumcamper Nov 2024 #57
Unfortunately, they can't vote in the presidential election RazorbackExpat Nov 2024 #2
But lots of Puerto Ricans in states like PA and FL can vote. LisaL Nov 2024 #3
Tons in both states. It might not counter the Cuban vote in FL, but it could be huge in PA... SKKY Nov 2024 #15
And Chicago and NYC and New Jersey, and Connecticut and ..... marble falls Nov 2024 #35
There is a continual, year-round movement of Puerto Ricans BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 #9
She was speaking in Puerto Rico, but she was speaking to millions of Puerto Ricans in states all over the US. marble falls Nov 2024 #37
Gotta give TFG's political speeches a lot of credit: He sure can turn out the Democratic vote. Add Kamala Harris ... marble falls Nov 2024 #4
trump only hires the brightest from the repuglicon talent pool, right? erronis Nov 2024 #24
As long as they expect to be paid. Giuliani still has his hand out. marble falls Nov 2024 #33
LOL. He sure can! n/t PatrickforB Nov 2024 #26
Sorry falls AKwannabe Nov 2024 #32
Legal residents of US states, even if residing in PR, can vote getagrip_already Nov 2024 #5
Question bdamomma Nov 2024 #8
Correct.... getagrip_already Nov 2024 #11
Thanks bdamomma Nov 2024 #13
Hawaii and Alaska were admitted to The Union as states in 1959. 3Hotdogs Nov 2024 #17
102 is an even number? getagrip_already Nov 2024 #19
Sorry. I got confused with the Missouri Compromise which strived for a balance of slave/free states. 3Hotdogs Nov 2024 #22
Are you a time traveler from the past? Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #28
I don't wanna tell you the century I'm from. Lets just say, in a way you might understand from a 20th Century reference. 3Hotdogs Nov 2024 #43
3Hotdogs ..you're 100% correct! 634-5789 Nov 2024 #48
RE: the number of Senators wnylib Nov 2024 #55
And don't forget sdfernando Nov 2024 #45
It seems the country started off with an odd number of states -- 13. 70sEraVet Nov 2024 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Nov 2024 #29
Puerto Ricans who can register in a state can vote in that state. Ramsey Barner Nov 2024 #21
Wonderful. Thank you, 634-5789. Judi Lynn Nov 2024 #6
Awesome! Thank you Boricuas. n/t livetohike Nov 2024 #7
Hmmm... Plaza de Armas? Looked at the map electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #10
Wow! Coexist Nov 2024 #12
yes!!!!! et tu Nov 2024 #14
Inspiring, yes. Magoo48 Nov 2024 #16
So a large number of people at that rally could vote by mail, using an established stateside address. 3Hotdogs Nov 2024 #18
Just like expats in Paris.... getagrip_already Nov 2024 #20
WOW! So, if somebody with money wanted to fix DeSantis' wagon..... 70sEraVet Nov 2024 #25
Most states have strict residency criteria for voting purposes. getagrip_already Nov 2024 #46
After Being Called a Floating Island of Garbage, They Naturally Want to Put Trump in the Dumpster! panfluteman Nov 2024 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author DoBW Nov 2024 #30
Many of them have friends and family who can vote IronLionZion Nov 2024 #31
Wouldn't 3auld6phart Nov 2024 #34
friggin' boom DoBW Nov 2024 #36
The orange CF and SF is good for one thing. Energizing the opposition! Or anyone he liberalla Nov 2024 #38
Holy sheeeet thank you for posting great news Tribetime Nov 2024 #39
Link Gone? NowsTheTime Nov 2024 #40
Trump should have known better rambler_american Nov 2024 #41
The Con has awaken the quiet but powerful Latino force onetexan Nov 2024 #42
I hope so! Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2024 #47
you are trying way too hard Skittles Nov 2024 #50
Shenanigans JoseBalow Nov 2024 #51
you'd think they would put in more effort Skittles Nov 2024 #52
There's nothing more sad and pathetic than a lazy troll JoseBalow Nov 2024 #53
the assumption libs hate "flyover states" Skittles Nov 2024 #54
nice Skittles Nov 2024 #49
Wonderful!!! Beacool Nov 2024 #56
Hopefully gixxerlee Nov 2024 #58

slumcamper

(1,775 posts)
57. AND--get thee to full STATEHOOD!!
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 09:35 PM
Nov 2024

Enough dilly-dallying, let's get this done. And DC while we're at it.

Expand the map.

SKKY

(12,729 posts)
15. Tons in both states. It might not counter the Cuban vote in FL, but it could be huge in PA...
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 07:37 AM
Nov 2024

Last edited Mon Nov 4, 2024, 10:35 AM - Edit history (1)

...HUGE. By the way, who had Tony Hinchcliffe saving our Democracy on their bingo card? Definitely not me.

BumRushDaShow

(164,546 posts)
9. There is a continual, year-round movement of Puerto Ricans
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 07:15 AM
Nov 2024

who are residents of a state on the mainland, between the island and the states where they live. There are literally commuter flights to San Juan set up for that and they are usually going to visit/stay with relatives.

They also have their own election going on too right now, but this is sending a message to the mainland residents to make sure to handle the "diss" (disrespect) of their culture by voting for Harris.

marble falls

(70,084 posts)
37. She was speaking in Puerto Rico, but she was speaking to millions of Puerto Ricans in states all over the US.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 09:21 AM
Nov 2024

marble falls

(70,084 posts)
4. Gotta give TFG's political speeches a lot of credit: He sure can turn out the Democratic vote. Add Kamala Harris ...
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 07:02 AM
Nov 2024

... to the mix and no matter what crap the MAGAverse can put up: WE WIN.

Now can we get Puerto Rico statehood?

erronis

(22,286 posts)
24. trump only hires the brightest from the repuglicon talent pool, right?
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:10 AM
Nov 2024

Guess that pool is pretty shallow and very scummy.

PatrickforB

(15,318 posts)
26. LOL. He sure can! n/t
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:24 AM
Nov 2024

And yeah, Puerto Rico needs to be a state. So does DC. That would solve our perennial Senate problem.

getagrip_already

(17,798 posts)
5. Legal residents of US states, even if residing in PR, can vote
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 07:08 AM
Nov 2024

Just like any other resident living out of the country.

There are a lot of reasons people maintain stateside addresses. No idea of numbers though.

bdamomma

(69,124 posts)
8. Question
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 07:15 AM
Nov 2024

So Hawaii is considered a state, and Puerto Rico isn't? But as you said, if they have stateside addressees they can?

getagrip_already

(17,798 posts)
11. Correct....
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 07:22 AM
Nov 2024

Puerto rico is not a state and its citizens can not vote for national office, nor do they have representation in the house or senate (they do have a nonvoting rep in the house. More of an observer than a rep).

They are cirizens however, so if they establish residence in a us state, they have the right to vote in that state just like any other citizen resident.

There are 1.2 million PR citizens resident in FL alone. There are i think closer to 3 million in ny.

bdamomma

(69,124 posts)
13. Thanks
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 07:27 AM
Nov 2024

There are many Americans who live abroad who will be voting. The world is watching, let's make everyone breathe a sigh of relief on Tuesday or Wednesday.

3Hotdogs

(14,890 posts)
17. Hawaii and Alaska were admitted to The Union as states in 1959.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:00 AM
Nov 2024

For Puerto Rico to become a state, a second territory would like have to be admitted. This would be to keep the number of senators at an even number. Or, another choice would be to remove one of the existing states to keep the balance. In this scenario, Mississippi comes to mind as a good choice.

getagrip_already

(17,798 posts)
19. 102 is an even number?
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:04 AM
Nov 2024

There is no requirement there be an evrn number of states. We actually had 49 states until hawaii came on board.

But, there is also dc waiting patiently. They are bigger than a few states

3Hotdogs

(14,890 posts)
22. Sorry. I got confused with the Missouri Compromise which strived for a balance of slave/free states.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:10 AM
Nov 2024

3Hotdogs

(14,890 posts)
43. I don't wanna tell you the century I'm from. Lets just say, in a way you might understand from a 20th Century reference.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 10:44 AM
Nov 2024

The transporter beam malfunctioned and gut fucked up with the time beacon. Engineering is trying to straighten it out and it might take a couple'a more Earth years for that to happen.

BUT --- if you promise not to tell anyone...... Harris did win the election, along with a HUGE Blue Wave.

634-5789

(4,609 posts)
48. 3Hotdogs ..you're 100% correct!
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 02:36 PM
Nov 2024

I did the final map math, she's got ABOUT 308 Electoral Votes. We'll have a grand time Wednesday!

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
55. RE: the number of Senators
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 06:04 PM
Nov 2024

As has already been pointed out, you were speaking from19th century rules. There is no requirement for an even number of states admitted to the Union.

But, since every state gets 2 Senators, the total number of Senators will always be an even number.

70sEraVet

(5,194 posts)
23. It seems the country started off with an odd number of states -- 13.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:10 AM
Nov 2024

So it wouldn't be breaking some foundational principle. But, to make everybody happy, we could always allow DC to have representation in the Senate!

Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #17)

Ramsey Barner

(669 posts)
21. Puerto Ricans who can register in a state can vote in that state.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:06 AM
Nov 2024

PR is an unincorporated territory whose citizens were granted citizenship by Congress in 1917 (not by the Constitution). PR residents don't have full Constitutional rights, which is, IMHO, atrocious.

3Hotdogs

(14,890 posts)
18. So a large number of people at that rally could vote by mail, using an established stateside address.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:01 AM
Nov 2024

70sEraVet

(5,194 posts)
25. WOW! So, if somebody with money wanted to fix DeSantis' wagon.....
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:20 AM
Nov 2024

He could let Puerto Ricans use his Florida address to establish residency, so the whole island could vote in the next election! Would it be that simple?

getagrip_already

(17,798 posts)
46. Most states have strict residency criteria for voting purposes.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 01:52 PM
Nov 2024

That would be illegal. But if someone could somehow provide legal residency, for free, to pr citizens, then sure.

But they would have to meet all of the residency requirements, which usually include being physically present in the state for a set smount of time first. Once you establish residency, all you would probably need is a mailing address, but im not an attorney and this isnt legal advice.

panfluteman

(2,189 posts)
27. After Being Called a Floating Island of Garbage, They Naturally Want to Put Trump in the Dumpster!
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:36 AM
Nov 2024

Response to 634-5789 (Original post)

3auld6phart

(1,669 posts)
34. Wouldn't
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 09:16 AM
Nov 2024

It be great. if The Democratic president Kama..a Harris would welcome Porto Rico as the 52 State into the United States.

liberalla

(10,754 posts)
38. The orange CF and SF is good for one thing. Energizing the opposition! Or anyone he
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 09:26 AM
Nov 2024

rants against... Unifying the people he degrades.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
42. The Con has awaken the quiet but powerful Latino force
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 10:12 AM
Nov 2024

If this doesn't sink him i don't know what does. I believe the Latino vote will be consequential in this election to pushing Kamala over in the swing states.
And yes Latinos will come to the defense of their Puerto Rican brothers & sisters as they, and we all, should.

Response to 634-5789 (Original post)

Skittles

(168,973 posts)
54. the assumption libs hate "flyover states"
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 04:25 PM
Nov 2024

that's proof right there someone is buying repuke propaganda

Beacool

(30,499 posts)
56. Wonderful!!!
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 09:24 PM
Nov 2024
Come on women!!!

Come on Puerto Rico!!!

Come on all Latinos!!!

Come on AA brothers and sisters!!!

Come on LGBTQIA community!!!

Come on all men who care and support the women in their lives!!!


gixxerlee

(219 posts)
58. Hopefully
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 01:48 AM
Nov 2024

We can also keep the senate and flip the house. Let's make Puerto Rico Washington D.C. New states.

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