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soldierant

(8,728 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:55 PM Nov 2024

What will it take for a woman to be president? by Errin Haines, the 19th

Originally published by The 19th
This column first appeared in The Amendment, a biweekly newsletter by Errin Haines, The 19th’s editor-at-large. Subscribe today to get early access to Election 2024 analysis.
In 2016, America couldn't vote for that woman. In 2020, the country couldn't vote for those women. 
In 2024, the same answer: Not her, either. 
I have said this election would be about who we are as much as it was about both of the candidates running for president. So who are we?
The democracy that still has not put a woman in the White House. 
Will we ever be ready? What will it take?
The first woman to run for president seeking a major party nomination, Shirley Chisholm, died in 2005. She did not live to see Hillary Clinton make history as the Democratic Party's first woman nominee, who won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College. Four years later, Kamala Harris became the first woman vice president, giving the country a chance to normalize the leadership of a woman of color at the highest levels. 
Harris was a worthy, capable and qualified adversary who put together a remarkable campaign in only 107 days. Much will be written about her shortcomings and the mistakes of the Democratic Party. But this is less an outcome about what Harris did wrong and more about Donald Trump’s strength and enduring power within the Republican Party, which I don't know that any candidate could've overcome. 
This raises questions about electability and the barriers that remain for women seeking our nation's highest office. 
Who will try again after the country has twice rejected the woman at the top of the ticket? Adding insult to injury, voters both times chose instead the same man, one with a history of racism and misogyny, who has been credibly accused of sexual assault, who admitted to groping women without their permission and who kept his vow to end federal protections for abortion. 
To win, he relentlessly and repeatedly insulted his women opponents -- a strategy that resonated with far too many of his supporters. In some cases, they encouraged him; in others, they looked away. 
For the second time in eight years, his behavior has been reaffirmed by half of the American electorate, and we are faced with a reality: that much of the country still wants to be who we have always been, incapable of putting a woman in power.  
Trump’s campaign was based on appeals to masculinity. He went on podcasts whose audiences are overwhelmingly men, and largely young men. Wrestling and mixed martial arts appeared at his convention and at his victory night party. His Make America Great Again movement hearkens to a time when women held less power. 
Trump lost — but felt empowered to run again. After losing the Democratic primary in 2008, Hillary Clinton ran again in 2016, winning the popular vote but losing the Electoral College and the presidency. It is unclear whether Harris, who pledged in her concession speech to keep fighting, and who ran unsuccessfully in 2020, will run again in four years — or ever. 
To be a first is to be a pioneer; to come up short is to be a pariah. For the women who have come achingly close to the presidency, to lose is not just about one race; it is about the door closing for the next person, the next cycle, indefinitely.

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What will it take for a woman to be president? by Errin Haines, the 19th (Original Post) soldierant Nov 2024 OP
It won't happen in America. Misogynistic patriarchal fuck wads abound. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #1
You are taking it seriously. soldierant Nov 2024 #6
You damn straight I am. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #8
It was lifted for me in 2008 actually. soldierant Nov 2024 #9
He was a great POTUS but I'm done going high. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #11
Because I am republishing theis under a Crative Commons license, soldierant Nov 2024 #2
What will it take atreides1 Nov 2024 #3
You are taking it seriously. soldierant Nov 2024 #5
Be a Republican WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2024 #4
I agree, it could be easier for a Republican. I think Nikki Haley would have beat either Biden or Harris. (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2024 #10
Kamala Could Be President Now if MrWowWow Nov 2024 #7

soldierant

(8,728 posts)
9. It was lifted for me in 2008 actually.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:23 PM
Nov 2024

And I'm not going to quote myself because I didn't express it very nicely.

In hindsight I'mglad we had Barack for eight years though.

soldierant

(8,728 posts)
2. Because I am republishing theis under a Crative Commons license,
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:00 PM
Nov 2024

I'mputting my personal answer to the question in a comment,.

At a minimum, it will require 40 years, or one generation, of Cemocratic control of Federal primary and secondary educatin standards, including effective enforcement. But that may not be enogh.

Misogyny is a bgger problem than the human race has ever tackled. Yes, bigger than putting peopleon the moon. Likely bigger than putting people on Mars. It would not surprise me if it is bigger than climate change. And we cannot solve it if we don't take it seriously.

atreides1

(16,765 posts)
3. What will it take
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:02 PM
Nov 2024

For every single white/black/latino conservative male and all religious fanatics to cease breathing!

That's what it will take!!!

thesquanderer

(12,680 posts)
10. I agree, it could be easier for a Republican. I think Nikki Haley would have beat either Biden or Harris. (n/t)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:48 PM
Nov 2024

MrWowWow

(575 posts)
7. Kamala Could Be President Now if
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:07 PM
Nov 2024

Joe would fake an illness and abruptly step down. Works for me for now!

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