will the thugs kill the filibuster?

[mopinko]

i’m betting yes. it has served them sooooo well. they know how powerful it is.
which is y they wont want dems to have it. it’s our only hope. they know it.
they’ll kill it.

what do u think?

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[bullimiami]

1. Immediately.

[Walleye]

2. How else will they repeal all the good things we did?

[displacedvermoter]

3. But what will Joe Manchin say?

From his comfortable retirement

[ck4829]

4. They certainly would if they had the chance but for them to do it would require some betrayals

[mopinko]

5. betrayals of what? takes 51 votes.

they’ve got 52.

[ck4829]

6. oh. oh no.

I was hoping for some of these guardrails I keep hearing about.

[mopinko]

9. yeah, no. there r none.

[Renew Deal]

22. The "gang of 8" nonsense

But McCain is gone and Manchin and Sinema are almost gone.

[Polybius]

11. Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins will oppose it

I heard Rick Scott say that he would too, although he may be lying.

[Autumn]

12. Susan Collins will oppose it until she votes to kill it.

[Polybius]

13. She's up for re-election in 2026

She has to move to the left in order to win in Maine.

[Autumn]

16. No she doesn't. Like Diane Feinstein she will cruise to reelection and die

in office.

[Polybius]

17. Diane Feinstein never had to move in the opposite direction to win though

I think Collins is vulnerable for reelection, but we'll see. Maybe I'm just being hopeful.

[Autumn]

18. Collins is an institution.

[Gore1FL]

7. The filibuster was put in place to help slave owners. It has been endlessly abused by the GOP.

If they get rid of it, it will be a long-term good.

[mopinko]

8. oh, i agree.

but in the meantime, it leaves us at a biigggg disadvantage.

[Polybius]

10. I think they may try, but fail

Even Rick Scott said he'd oppose it (no link, but saw him on CNN the other day), and I'm sure Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins will too.

[BlueTsunami2018]

14. How else will they pass all this draconian bullshit?

I’m quite sure they have ALEC style legislation already printed up and ready to go. They’re going to move so fast your head will spin. This is the moment they’ve been waiting sixty-five years or so for.

This is the end.

[Happy Hoosier]

15. Of course they will

Why wouldn’t they? They cannot enact their fascist agenda unless they kill the filibuster.

[W_HAMILTON]

19. They've already killed it for most everything they want to pass.

If, by chance, there is some policy they still can't get through with the rules in place by bypassing the filibuster (e.g., through reconciliation, simple majority appointments, etc.) that they really want to get passed, then they will eliminate it for that.

[dsc]

20. I doubt they will but hope they do

The fact is, the filibuster, as it is currently set up is a very one way weapon in their favor. They can appoint who they want to both the administration and the judiciary, they can cut taxes to their hearts content. and they can get rid of regulation all without triggering the filibuster. But when we are in power, we can't enact laws for our priorities without 60 votes.

[Renew Deal]

21. I don't know, but they should

It seems that most people recognize that it's a problem that has caused gridlock and dissatisfaction with the government. It should be gotten rid of ASAP.