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CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:57 PM Dec 2012

American Family Association spokesman says "school did not embrace God"

AFA Spokesman Bryan Fischer Says Children Died in Shooting Because School Did Not Embrace God: VIDEO

American Family Association spokesman Bryan Fischer had something heinous to say about the tragic school shooting in Connecticut today. He said that God allowed the shooting to happen because prayer, the Bible, and the Ten Commandments are not taught in public schools and "God is a gentleman" who does not go where he is not wanted, Right Wing Watch reports:

Fischer said that God could have protected the victims of this massacre, but didn't because "God is not going to go where he is not wanted" and so if school administrators really want to protect students, they will start every school day with prayer.

Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...



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American Family Association spokesman says "school did not embrace God" (Original Post) CreekDog Dec 2012 OP
Embrace this, asshole Richardo Dec 2012 #1
I've read the Bible and God is responsible for an awful lot of killing Duer 157099 Dec 2012 #2
+100000012 Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #54
This is purposeful baiting. Dash87 Dec 2012 #3
Who the hell would want to worship such a god? sinkingfeeling Dec 2012 #4
Stay classy, fundamentaloser. HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #5
Fischer is the kind of Xtian atreides1 Dec 2012 #6
This guy is about the biggest creep around. mysuzuki2 Dec 2012 #7
a few points in repsonse... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #25
I don't want to live on this fucking planet anymore. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #8
there's some folks working on it a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #42
We should have had these bullt by now..... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #44
send me the orbital coordinates, and I'll move now... n/t a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #47
L-5 A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #50
I've got those books, and a few others... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #52
Then you are someone I would enjoy a LOONG conversation with! n/t A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #55
I'm up for it. a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #60
I'm rather more focused on near Earth colonies. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #62
If you want LEO, and a lighter cargo load out, we could probably bring it down a few notches... a geek named Bob Dec 2012 #63
So...God is a gentleman who allows innocent children to be killed? AndyA Dec 2012 #9
Yeah... if only they opened the day with an "Our Father", they'd all be alive. scheming daemons Dec 2012 #10
God didn't work out for that Amish school 6 years ago... alp227 Dec 2012 #23
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #11
There was one shooting at the HQ of another fundie group... alp227 Dec 2012 #32
The AFA can go fuck itself. Cheap_Trick Dec 2012 #12
I couldn't figure out who would be insensitive enough to write a satirical piece on this. polly7 Dec 2012 #13
What?? flakey_foont Dec 2012 #14
ah, yes. religion can be such a great comfort in times of grief and stress. unblock Dec 2012 #15
why give these freaks space? HiPointDem Dec 2012 #16
Go fuck yourself, asshole. Hayabusa Dec 2012 #17
Really? SpartanDem Dec 2012 #18
Fuck those assholes along with the NRA. we can do it Dec 2012 #19
Fischer is a seriously warped, hateful man. n/t Zookeeper Dec 2012 #20
I just saw this comment on another site leftynyc Dec 2012 #21
AFA= American Taliban Champion Jack Dec 2012 #22
Stay classy, AFA n/t Goblinmonger Dec 2012 #24
just when I think my disgust can't run any deeper... NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #26
This liberal Christian and seminary liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #27
If Jesus is real, I wish he'd come down and take a whip to this fucking pharisee. phleshdef Dec 2012 #28
Hey, Bryan Fischer: REP Dec 2012 #29
The AFA is a far greater threat to the US than the Taliban. Dawson Leery Dec 2012 #30
Their God is real asshole then. Lex Dec 2012 #31
I can't think of a term strong enough to describe this vile, hate-filled person Faygo Kid Dec 2012 #33
No, no, no, peeps........this shooting happened because we aren't stoning gays to death. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #34
Of course that's what Fischer said Tsiyu Dec 2012 #35
Guess Jesus didn't love the little children after all MountainLaurel Dec 2012 #36
And how does Bryan explain the numerous shootings that have happened in churches? tanyev Dec 2012 #37
Wasn't Martin Luther King, Sr. killed in church years ago?? Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2012 #65
His "god" must be a really pathetic weakling of a deity if he can't penetrate LeftinOH Dec 2012 #38
NAZI AFA PUNKS FUCK OFF!!! Dirty Socialist Dec 2012 #39
Asshat Fuckwad Association is more like it Roland99 Dec 2012 #40
Oh that's why there was a thread telling Cha Dec 2012 #41
Why does the media think anyone cares what the evil fucks at American Family Ass. think? FSogol Dec 2012 #43
He's gloating. Mariana Dec 2012 #45
What a truly rotten, vile waste of human flesh that shitbag is. Initech Dec 2012 #46
Fuck him! historylovr Dec 2012 #48
Assholes like him are WHY I don't have guns Nevernose Dec 2012 #49
Oh for fuck's sake... YoungDemCA Dec 2012 #51
Wish the 21st would hurry up and get here. Separation Dec 2012 #53
Beyond stupid statement...but I guess he does confirm that his God is one punitive driven SOB. Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #56
Monstrous Nonhlanhla Dec 2012 #57
The fact that these people get once ounce of media attention is disgusting Marrah_G Dec 2012 #58
Incredible. What an ass. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #59
Come here, asshole, and let me shove KatyaR Dec 2012 #61
Wow. If failure to embrace THEIR "god" results in a massacre of innocent children PA Democrat Dec 2012 #64

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
3. This is purposeful baiting.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:59 PM
Dec 2012

Nerves are tender right now - they know what they're doing. It's like the WBC protesting military funerals.

Some people just suck.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
5. Stay classy, fundamentaloser.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:00 PM
Dec 2012

CYA defense in response to "There is no God", I'm sure. Maybe those innocent children didn't kiss Gawd's ass juuuuuuuuuuuuust right?

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
6. Fischer is the kind of Xtian
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:00 PM
Dec 2012

That I wouldn't mind seeing crucified...or being chased by large hungry animals!!!

What a totally disgusting POS...

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
7. This guy is about the biggest creep around.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:00 PM
Dec 2012

I would support hanging him by his ankles and beating him with sticks.

 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
25. a few points in repsonse...
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:05 PM
Dec 2012

1.) Beating this guy with sticks would be cruel to the sticks...
2.) The more the fundies talk, the more people they lose.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
8. I don't want to live on this fucking planet anymore.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:01 PM
Dec 2012

Really. I wish Gerard K. O'Neill was given control of NASA and the budget the Pentagon has back in the 1970's. Then I could actually leave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_K._O%27Neill

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
44. We should have had these bullt by now.....
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:33 PM
Dec 2012


I guarantee you, there would be NO gun violence on one of those.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
50. L-5
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:52 PM
Dec 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point

O'Neill was a genius, and we lost a great visionary when he died.

If you haven't read it, read "Colonies in Space" by T.A. Heppenheimer

http://www.nss.org/settlement/ColoniesInSpace/index.html

Also read O'Niell's book "The High Frontier"

http://www.amazon.com/The-High-Frontier-Colonies-Apogee/dp/189652267X

If we really do want to see humanity change for the better, we need to get on with this. It needs to be an international "Manhattan Project".

We could have 2 billion people living on colonies such as the one I pictured above in 30 years, if we just got on with it.
 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
52. I've got those books, and a few others...
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:56 PM
Dec 2012

I've lectured on the subject for 20 years (rocketry and aerospace were sort of the family business...)

Worse comes to worst, we could set up a cycler from existing equipment, and then ferry over a full Mars colony in stages.

What the hell, I need another hobby... I'll sketch out a cycler (via Sketchup?)

 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
60. I'm up for it.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:37 PM
Dec 2012

Shall we begin with:
-history of Mars colony design
-history of Mars colony artwork
-technical requirements
-design systems
-orbital parameters
-health issues
-social issues and suggested solutions
-political topics

I remember running one workshop at a small SF con, wherein we worked a super cheap, ghetto-tech, sustainable Moonbase.

$200K for 12 people, without the needed 12 manyears of stored food, and transportation. The major difference between aircraft construction and a rocket engine are the pressurization, some instruments, and fuel. (In a pinch, you COULD go with a Pulse-Detonation Engine. That'll need good shock absorbers, or you'll bruise your crew. PDE's get sick amounts of bang to the buck lift.)

You could possibly build up a low tech lifter for around the price of a few new Cessna 172's. (Think it through... if you do the welding yourself, that cuts out the labor. the engine in question would be built from fuel injectors and piston style airlines, with spark plugs for the ignition system. Call it $600K

That's $800K for 12 people. That's (with a little cushioning) $80K for each person. That means saving (and working) fort 10 years each. Not chump change, but far from the exclusive elite rank.

After the third ship would go up, the major capital investments are done, and the running costs would be the $20K per person to Mars. (After you have a strong enough industrial base, you could bring that to the cost of the incoming stored food - and even that could be made on Mars.)

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
62. I'm rather more focused on near Earth colonies.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:42 PM
Dec 2012

Trips to Mars mean a year or so one way. A trip to L-5 is two days, 3 tops. Ditto to the Moon, where the materials for such a colony would be mined.

It is all fascinating to me, and we would be able to leave the likes of the subject of the OP behind!

 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
63. If you want LEO, and a lighter cargo load out, we could probably bring it down a few notches...
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:55 PM
Dec 2012

You might be able to "siphon" the gases of the extreme upper atmosphere...

You could sell the gases to the Earth cities... (that, and you could grab up of the the CFCs, thereby helping the world.)

Time to LEO, assuming a net 1 G acceleration, is about 13 minutes.

On the other hand, any technological civilization can easily create weapons from local materials. (A laser cutter, repurposed for travel, makes a nifty weapon, so does a shard of hard point ceramic...)

The things that ought to counteract it are:
1.) a group need to escape the violence below
2.) a perceived need to work together, in a harsh environment, amid self selected luxury
3.) self selection of groups for reasoned activities as a habit pattern

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
9. So...God is a gentleman who allows innocent children to be killed?
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:01 PM
Dec 2012

A gentleman would do something to prevent that, I would think.

It's shocking that there are so many completely crazy people today. It seems that an organization of this name would be more concerned about the families that have been totally devastated today.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
10. Yeah... if only they opened the day with an "Our Father", they'd all be alive.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:01 PM
Dec 2012

Religious nuts are as bad as the gun nuts.

Response to CreekDog (Original post)

 

Cheap_Trick

(3,918 posts)
12. The AFA can go fuck itself.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:01 PM
Dec 2012

Bryan Fischer is an evil man. May he die a thousand deaths, each one more agonizing than the last.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
13. I couldn't figure out who would be insensitive enough to write a satirical piece on this.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:02 PM
Dec 2012

It's real .......... what a hateful, insane freak.

flakey_foont

(3,341 posts)
14. What??
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:02 PM
Dec 2012

How very insensitive!!!! So this jerkoff's God could have prevented the massacre of young, innocent lives, but
was waiting for an invitation? What a hateful, ignorant buffoon!

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
17. Go fuck yourself, asshole.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:02 PM
Dec 2012

You and your entire God-damned organization. Right now, God's probably hugging those children and apologizing, not celebrating their death because they didn't give Him proper respect.

we can do it

(12,193 posts)
19. Fuck those assholes along with the NRA.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:02 PM
Dec 2012

If god is a gentleman and all powerful then why the fuck did he not intervene? Because he's a fucking made-up fairy tale, that's why. Fuck you hateful fake christian assholes, fuck you guns-for god idiots. fuck everything

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
21. I just saw this comment on another site
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:03 PM
Dec 2012

in response to this cretin:

I have four kids between 6 - 14 years old. But we are here in godless, socialistic, morally bankrupt Western Europe, so I am not as scared for their safety as I would be if we were living in God's own Country, the Land of Bryan Fischer and the Covenant with The Lord.

liberalhistorian

(20,819 posts)
27. This liberal Christian and seminary
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:06 PM
Dec 2012

student says a hearty FUCK YOU BRYAN FISCHER. Go move to Somalia, where your idiotic, hateful, hellfire-and-brimstone-obsessed ass would be most comfortable. And take your minions and ignorant followers all with you, please. Gah.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
33. I can't think of a term strong enough to describe this vile, hate-filled person
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:07 PM
Dec 2012

Little children. I hate the American Family Association.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
35. Of course that's what Fischer said
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:15 PM
Dec 2012

he is a vile shitstain. Using the slaughter of lambs to promote his dirty, nasty vile deity.

I must again refrain from saying what I would REALLY like to say about what I hope happens to Mr. Evil Evil EVIL Fischer.

But his god is a nothing and a nobody and HAS no power.

His god is just a way for him to make $$$$

I wish I could say what I really think here......

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
65. Wasn't Martin Luther King, Sr. killed in church years ago??
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:53 PM
Dec 2012

I think I remember that. And the organist?



LeftinOH

(5,358 posts)
38. His "god" must be a really pathetic weakling of a deity if he can't penetrate
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:19 PM
Dec 2012

brick walls. Or maybe Fischer is just a jackass.

Cha

(297,652 posts)
41. Oh that's why there was a thread telling
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:26 PM
Dec 2012

bryan fischer to go fuck himself. Fucking tonedeaf Idiot.

What a bullshit monster he has for a "god".

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
45. He's gloating.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:33 PM
Dec 2012

I bet he started jumping up and down with glee when he heard about this.

He came out with this statement so quickly I wouldn't be surprised if he had it already written and ready to go, just waiting for something like this to happen so he could say his piece.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
56. Beyond stupid statement...but I guess he does confirm that his God is one punitive driven SOB.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:00 PM
Dec 2012

This guy should receive the heartless dumb ass award.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
57. Monstrous
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:20 PM
Dec 2012

These people are monstrous. I feel so tired when I hear this kind of crap. Have they no shame?

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
61. Come here, asshole, and let me shove
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:37 PM
Dec 2012

my god damned fist down your throat.

I am so fucking SICK AND TIRED of these people. Have they no compassion whatsoever?

At this point, I say give 'em part of the country, let them have it, and keep them away from the rest of us who still have our brains and hearts about us.

Seriously, I am DONE. I have had it up to HERE with the 2nd Amendment. It is time to get rid of the guns and the nutjobs, or put them all somewhere where they can enjoy killing each other and not the rest of us.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
64. Wow. If failure to embrace THEIR "god" results in a massacre of innocent children
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:43 PM
Dec 2012

they can keep their god. If you need any further proof that the American Family Association is totally hateful and nuts, this is it.

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