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American Family Association spokesman Bryan Fischer had something heinous to say about the tragic school shooting in Connecticut today. He said that God allowed the shooting to happen because prayer, the Bible, and the Ten Commandments are not taught in public schools and "God is a gentleman" who does not go where he is not wanted, Right Wing Watch reports:
Fischer said that God could have protected the victims of this massacre, but didn't because "God is not going to go where he is not wanted" and so if school administrators really want to protect students, they will start every school day with prayer.
Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...
http://www.towleroad.com/2012/12/fischerschool.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=spreadtwitter&utm_content=%3C$MTEntryPermalink$%3E
Richardo
(38,391 posts)Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)I'd ban him too.
Great Caesars Ghost
(532 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)Nerves are tender right now - they know what they're doing. It's like the WBC protesting military funerals.
Some people just suck.
sinkingfeeling
(51,473 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)CYA defense in response to "There is no God", I'm sure. Maybe those innocent children didn't kiss Gawd's ass juuuuuuuuuuuuust right?
atreides1
(16,093 posts)That I wouldn't mind seeing crucified...or being chased by large hungry animals!!!
What a totally disgusting POS...
mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)I would support hanging him by his ankles and beating him with sticks.
a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)1.) Beating this guy with sticks would be cruel to the sticks...
2.) The more the fundies talk, the more people they lose.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,376 posts)Really. I wish Gerard K. O'Neill was given control of NASA and the budget the Pentagon has back in the 1970's. Then I could actually leave.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_K._O%27Neill
a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)The Mars Society used to do good work...
A HERETIC I AM
(24,376 posts)I guarantee you, there would be NO gun violence on one of those.
a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,376 posts)O'Neill was a genius, and we lost a great visionary when he died.
If you haven't read it, read "Colonies in Space" by T.A. Heppenheimer
http://www.nss.org/settlement/ColoniesInSpace/index.html
Also read O'Niell's book "The High Frontier"
http://www.amazon.com/The-High-Frontier-Colonies-Apogee/dp/189652267X
If we really do want to see humanity change for the better, we need to get on with this. It needs to be an international "Manhattan Project".
We could have 2 billion people living on colonies such as the one I pictured above in 30 years, if we just got on with it.
a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)I've lectured on the subject for 20 years (rocketry and aerospace were sort of the family business...)
Worse comes to worst, we could set up a cycler from existing equipment, and then ferry over a full Mars colony in stages.
What the hell, I need another hobby... I'll sketch out a cycler (via Sketchup?)
A HERETIC I AM
(24,376 posts)a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)Shall we begin with:
-history of Mars colony design
-history of Mars colony artwork
-technical requirements
-design systems
-orbital parameters
-health issues
-social issues and suggested solutions
-political topics
I remember running one workshop at a small SF con, wherein we worked a super cheap, ghetto-tech, sustainable Moonbase.
$200K for 12 people, without the needed 12 manyears of stored food, and transportation. The major difference between aircraft construction and a rocket engine are the pressurization, some instruments, and fuel. (In a pinch, you COULD go with a Pulse-Detonation Engine. That'll need good shock absorbers, or you'll bruise your crew. PDE's get sick amounts of bang to the buck lift.)
You could possibly build up a low tech lifter for around the price of a few new Cessna 172's. (Think it through... if you do the welding yourself, that cuts out the labor. the engine in question would be built from fuel injectors and piston style airlines, with spark plugs for the ignition system. Call it $600K
That's $800K for 12 people. That's (with a little cushioning) $80K for each person. That means saving (and working) fort 10 years each. Not chump change, but far from the exclusive elite rank.
After the third ship would go up, the major capital investments are done, and the running costs would be the $20K per person to Mars. (After you have a strong enough industrial base, you could bring that to the cost of the incoming stored food - and even that could be made on Mars.)
A HERETIC I AM
(24,376 posts)Trips to Mars mean a year or so one way. A trip to L-5 is two days, 3 tops. Ditto to the Moon, where the materials for such a colony would be mined.
It is all fascinating to me, and we would be able to leave the likes of the subject of the OP behind!
a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)You might be able to "siphon" the gases of the extreme upper atmosphere...
You could sell the gases to the Earth cities... (that, and you could grab up of the the CFCs, thereby helping the world.)
Time to LEO, assuming a net 1 G acceleration, is about 13 minutes.
On the other hand, any technological civilization can easily create weapons from local materials. (A laser cutter, repurposed for travel, makes a nifty weapon, so does a shard of hard point ceramic...)
The things that ought to counteract it are:
1.) a group need to escape the violence below
2.) a perceived need to work together, in a harsh environment, amid self selected luxury
3.) self selection of groups for reasoned activities as a habit pattern
AndyA
(16,993 posts)A gentleman would do something to prevent that, I would think.
It's shocking that there are so many completely crazy people today. It seems that an organization of this name would be more concerned about the families that have been totally devastated today.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)Religious nuts are as bad as the gun nuts.
alp227
(32,052 posts)Response to CreekDog (Original post)
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alp227
(32,052 posts)And you better self-delete that rather tasteless post soon.
Cheap_Trick
(3,918 posts)Bryan Fischer is an evil man. May he die a thousand deaths, each one more agonizing than the last.
polly7
(20,582 posts)It's real .......... what a hateful, insane freak.
flakey_foont
(3,341 posts)How very insensitive!!!! So this jerkoff's God could have prevented the massacre of young, innocent lives, but
was waiting for an invitation? What a hateful, ignorant buffoon!
unblock
(52,317 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Hayabusa
(2,135 posts)You and your entire God-damned organization. Right now, God's probably hugging those children and apologizing, not celebrating their death because they didn't give Him proper respect.
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)I will die of shock if one these fundies can go 48 hours without being an assole
we can do it
(12,193 posts)If god is a gentleman and all powerful then why the fuck did he not intervene? Because he's a fucking made-up fairy tale, that's why. Fuck you hateful fake christian assholes, fuck you guns-for god idiots. fuck everything
Zookeeper
(6,536 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)in response to this cretin:
I have four kids between 6 - 14 years old. But we are here in godless, socialistic, morally bankrupt Western Europe, so I am not as scared for their safety as I would be if we were living in God's own Country, the Land of Bryan Fischer and the Covenant with The Lord.
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,019 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,819 posts)student says a hearty FUCK YOU BRYAN FISCHER. Go move to Somalia, where your idiotic, hateful, hellfire-and-brimstone-obsessed ass would be most comfortable. And take your minions and ignorant followers all with you, please. Gah.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)Little children. I hate the American Family Association.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)he is a vile shitstain. Using the slaughter of lambs to promote his dirty, nasty vile deity.
I must again refrain from saying what I would REALLY like to say about what I hope happens to Mr. Evil Evil EVIL Fischer.
But his god is a nothing and a nobody and HAS no power.
His god is just a way for him to make $$$$
I wish I could say what I really think here......
MountainLaurel
(10,271 posts)According to the AFA at least.
tanyev
(42,610 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)I think I remember that. And the organist?
LeftinOH
(5,358 posts)brick walls. Or maybe Fischer is just a jackass.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:29 PM - Edit history (1)
They can bite me.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Cha
(297,652 posts)bryan fischer to go fuck himself. Fucking tonedeaf Idiot.
What a bullshit monster he has for a "god".
FSogol
(45,525 posts)Mariana
(14,860 posts)I bet he started jumping up and down with glee when he heard about this.
He came out with this statement so quickly I wouldn't be surprised if he had it already written and ready to go, just waiting for something like this to happen so he could say his piece.
Initech
(100,102 posts)historylovr
(1,557 posts)Excuse the language, but just fuck him.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)I don't think I have the necessary self control.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)No, Bryan Fischer. Just no.
Separation
(1,975 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)This guy should receive the heartless dumb ass award.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)These people are monstrous. I feel so tired when I hear this kind of crap. Have they no shame?
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)KatyaR
(3,445 posts)my god damned fist down your throat.
I am so fucking SICK AND TIRED of these people. Have they no compassion whatsoever?
At this point, I say give 'em part of the country, let them have it, and keep them away from the rest of us who still have our brains and hearts about us.
Seriously, I am DONE. I have had it up to HERE with the 2nd Amendment. It is time to get rid of the guns and the nutjobs, or put them all somewhere where they can enjoy killing each other and not the rest of us.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)they can keep their god. If you need any further proof that the American Family Association is totally hateful and nuts, this is it.