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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWayne LaPierre should be forced to dig 26 graves with his bare fucking hands.
Then he should be compelled to explain to 20 sets of parents why his right to own as many guns as he can afford, including semi-automatic weapons, trumps their right to watch their kids grow up. After that, the fucking imbeciles at Fox and Friends must explain to those same grief-stricken parents that "now is not the time" to discuss rational gun control limitations because that would just be "politicizing a tragedy".
Fuck 'em, each and every damned one of them!
catbyte
(34,452 posts)Response to catbyte (Reply #1)
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a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)Any person with a sense of decency, upon hearing how his life's work caused the deaths of so MANY children would feel suicidal remorse.
atreides1
(16,093 posts)LaPierre sold his a long, long, time ago.
a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)WashingtonConsensus
(29 posts)agree
CherokeeDem
(3,709 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)calimary
(81,476 posts)Their deaths lay at his feet. Anyone promoting and defending the wanton use and ownership of guns with NO restrictions - deserves that, too.
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)we can do it
(12,194 posts)fuck you greedy self centered me only republican assholes for the shitty example you are setting. fuck you fox spews for spreading hatred. fuck you nra
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)that would be suitable karma
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)why wish his children ill? they are no less innocent than those who died today.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Edit: I alerted on this horrific post only to find it was allowed to stand. Advocating the death of children.
I would appreciate knowing how the jury rationalized killing children.
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)extreme positions.
So in my book, I attribute some percentage of the over 250,000 deaths by gun violence to him.
He's a mass murderer.
He will never change until it affects him personally.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)and I didn't advocate killing children.
I said that he should have to bury his children, not that someone should go and find his children and kill them.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)here. Maybe you didnt mean that, maybe an edit would fix it.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)suggest his children sould be killed.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Or do you just wish that they spontaneously die?
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)I doubt it. He's a blood sucking, money-hungry shithead. For him, money is more important than lives.
mahina
(17,697 posts)This post violates the TOS.
Spryguy
(120 posts)The reason for the alert was:
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What could be more over the top than suggesting this? Vile and unworthy of this forum.
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October
(3,363 posts)Bluzmann57
(12,336 posts)Whether one agrees with LaPierre or not, one should never ever wish anything like murder to befall his or anyone else's children. Shame on you for suggesting such a thing.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)And fuck all those who lap up his poison, as if it were candy.
atreides1
(16,093 posts)It's always been about the rights of gun makers to sell their tools of death to anyone who can come up with the money.
All LaPierre and the other slags at the NRA care about is the money they make as lobbyists for the gun makers!
And I agree with you about him digging each grave with his bare hands, but make sure it's in frozen ground!
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)And that is what it is all about, money.
TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)At the same time the Michigan GOP Legislative caucus passes obscenity after obscenity, one making concealed carry legal in schools (but don't light a fucking cigarette in the parking lot!), they actually 'respond' to this unspeakable tragedy by proposing that teachers carry guns!!! (One teacher owned four guns ... and look what her 20-year-old son did with them!!)
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)DearHeart
(692 posts)Never thought I would see that day that 20 little children would be murdered and it wouldn't matter one iota to any of these people holding so tightly to their precious guns. Why are people so attached to their damn guns??? I cannot fathom one reason why anyone who has seen the horrific scenes from today and those terrorized little kids and their parents, and not be willing to, at the very least, put stricter controls on who can own these guns and where they can buy them!
You can bet your ass that if it were one of their kids, or their nieces or nephews, they would then be the ones demanding stricter gun controls. Why is it that it always takes someone in one's own family to be hurt, killed, or contract a deadly or dibilitating disease before we do anything about it?? How many more children have to die??
Sorry about the rant!
xchrom
(108,903 posts)it should be televised -- each bruising, painful scrape with his god forsaken hands.
Tansy_Gold
(17,868 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,818 posts)Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)samsingh
(17,601 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Zookeeper
(6,536 posts)Business is holy, getting rich anyway possible is holy, as long as the perp wears a suit and can hide behind a title.
2naSalit
(86,780 posts)if somebody can make $millions, then it's okay no matter who else gets hurt or killed... in a capitalist society, money is all that matters.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)GOPpers and insane conservatives because GAWD forgive you try and take their guns as well as their bibles.
AllyCat
(16,222 posts)They are usually present in every thread after something like this happens spouting their pro-gun crap veiled as Constitutional rights.
spanone
(135,876 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)mokawanis
(4,452 posts)Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)He's probably having drinks with his buddies right now, caressing their guns and laughing it up.
Diseased piece of fucking scum....
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Then he should be tarred and feathered!
tblue
(16,350 posts)Yep. Every last one. I don't care who they are. They own this collectively.
lindysalsagal
(20,732 posts)There's no other way to add this up.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Initech
(100,103 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)japple
(9,839 posts)about some sort of reasonable process to regulate weapons.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)queentonic
(243 posts)I was an Army Medic in Vietnam '69 and seeing children as young as this being murdered is even beyond what I care to comprehend. I saw a lot of children killed in Vietnam, but that was a war zone and expected. However, that doesn't excuse it for happening, but when I was checking out of Vietnam to catch a flight home on the Freedom Bird, Whole Baggage would not allow us to take an AK-47 with us as a souvenir because it was illegal and considered a weapon for combat use only. Get these combat weapons off the street - period. I've had enough!!!!!
tattulip
(1 post)And what are you going to cry when they take away the guns and the knifing starts?
Efilroft Sul
(3,581 posts)Nobody's going to take away guns; it's an NRA circle-jerk fantasy.
But requiring a psychological background check of those owning or wanting to own a gun might be something worth considering.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)Welcome to DU, mass-murder apologist.
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)Or maybe the post was meant to show that a knife injures while guns murder. I dunno. Either way, it's a crazy post.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)AllyCat
(16,222 posts)It takes someone really bold, crazy, or whatever to actually have to get that close to someone with a weapon. If the perp can see the faces of the people they think they want to slay, it's tougher.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)How many of those 22 died?
Zero.
Thanks for making our point that tight gun control saved 22 lives.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)imagine that fucker with a semi-automatic mowing down those kids. The gun whackos are too stupid to realize this undermines their own argument. Fucking idiots.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Burn in Hell.
Berserker
(3,419 posts)It must be the DU you seem to miss. Was it filled with fear and hatred? I don't think so.
We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts, or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer. Hunter S. Thompson
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)You've just made the OPPOSITE point of what you intended.
Do you see this boy? He is a victim of the knife attack. He is ALIVE. If he'd been hit by a bullet in Connecticut, he would be DEAD.
Wake the fuck up.
RegexReader
(416 posts)There is a higher fatality rate with edged weapons than from handguns.
Regardless, I'm stunned by this all. Pure satanic savagery. My 12 year old daughter was pretty shook up about it when she got back from gymnastics.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Higher fatality my ASS. Post link. Bonus points if the link doesn't say something about distance from victim.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)Although if you include those that were killed in war I'd highly doubt that. If you look at it world wide., most people cannot afford a gun. Or live in a country with strict gun control laws (most do). So of course the only weapon available is a knife.
The real question is how many more deaths there would have been if those knife murderers had had a gun instead.
DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)put these words together any way you can;
you're
fucking
gone
like
sewage
_ed_
(1,734 posts)Go play with your gun.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)NONE.
P.S. You're bringing a spork to a knife-fight.
F@ck the NRA and the gun-fetishists.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)Fuck you, freeper.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I'm a pretty damn serious bike racer (former Cat 1 Women...race in the "old gals" class now), and I could probably outrun most people over distance: I have pretty good endurance. But could I outsprint a young, fit male, the group most statistically likely to commit assault? Maybe...maybe not. Fit as I am, I'm still only 5'4" (not a long stride) and built for the long haul, not bursts of speed (110'bs). If he could catch me in the first 40 yards, my greater endurance is irrelevant.
Hell, someone like that wouldn't need a knife if he got hold of me...
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)RetroLounge
(37,250 posts)Fuck off, teabagger asshole
RL
Sparkly
(24,149 posts)The key word in your post is "injures". Let me guess, your next post is going to be "guns don't kill people....." I'm so fucking tired of the same fucking excuses.
underpants
(182,880 posts)I just watched the President's speech and I have tears in my eyes. I am hope today with my daughter because she was running a fever. She has been watching Holiday movies while I cleaned and I only got this story late this afternoon. I don't know why I am posting because there are no words. 20 kids. That is my daughter's school.
whew I just can't imagine. I have empathy but I just can't imagine what those families are going through.
Every meal is a banquet and every day a parade. That's an old Army saying about getting out but days like this really make you appreciate every second you get to have with your kids and your family. Or that you just get. This one person's madness was a 1,000 miles away but it feels like it is right down the street. 20 kids. children. unbelieveable.
LeftNeckChick
(7 posts)Couldn't have said it better myself. If now isn't the time to talk about gun control... when is?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)I have to be careful here. I already got slapped down today for my anger at the fact waiters. Wait for the facts before saying this was an act of an insane person who should not have had access to a weapon. I am sad for the families and kids. The teachers and all who went through this will suffer for years. Only the walking insane can excuse this with a "let's not talk about this today." Yes this very minute the debate should start on assault weapons and extended magazines I have used them and their potential for damage is horrendous. Pox news can be depended on to embarrass themselves. Let them keep talking. Maybe people will finally see the soulless nature of a lot of their on air personalities. I just hope sanity will finally win out in this country.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)I think it's time for the NRA to go away.
navarth
(5,927 posts)I hope to see that sometime.
doc03
(35,368 posts)we should train one as security for each and every school and mall in the country.
You should have to have a background check and a license to own a gun.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)They're too busy stirring the Benghazi shitpot.
George II
(67,782 posts)...I just checked the NRA website - the cocksuckers don't have a SINGLE WORD about what happened today!
I doubt that asshole would be able to dig those graves with his bare hands - they're too stained with children's blood.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Cocksucker has long been used as a homophobic slur, and while a jury let this stand, I thought you should know that it is highly offensive to many people.
Thanks for your consideration.
George II
(67,782 posts)...that word has more than one "meaning" and reference - it's not a homphobic slur in this case. I hope you understand.
We're reeling out of control in this country with the obsession with guns, rationalizing with the sacred "Second Amendment" - and the scumbag NRA prostitutes that amendment and hides behind it with their blindness and selfishness.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)trump those that see nothing wrong with what they say.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1240&pid=186703
George II
(67,782 posts)...........instead of the obvious way that I used the word.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cocksucker
Seven main definitions with 12 sub-definitions. Not a single one referring to a gay man, just about every similar to the way I meant it.
If one is going to consider the sexual aspect of the word, I've known hundreds more women that performed that act than men.
PS - many did NOT find it offensive in the context in which it was written.
PPS - my gay brother didn't find my post homophobically offensive.
PPPS - isn't posting the result of a jury (with the details, 4-2 in my favor, by the way) a violation of the TOS of this site?
cbayer
(146,218 posts)And no, the posting of jury results is not a tos violation.
George II
(67,782 posts)....homophobic. If you choose to read it that way, unfortunately that's your problem, not mine.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)G'day.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT!!
primavera
(5,191 posts)earcandle
(3,622 posts)Moral Disengagement has been on the map for discussion since 2002.
When are we going to have this conversation publicly? And build policy that requires tax revenue
to bring rehab into the picture and avoid French revolutionary tactics toward those who are in the in-group
by those thrown into an out-group by unemployment and injustices that cannot be resolved for human beings who act
individually for the masses and kill themselves in the process of statements they are trying to make from their graves
which includes victims of the perceived in-groups?
Must read to understand what is really happening in our country from the man who gave us the BOBO Doll experiement.
Dr. Albert Bandura from Stanford.
http://www.stanford.edu/~kcarmel/CC_BehavChange_Course/readings/Additional%20Resources/Bandura/bandura_moraldisengagement.pdf
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)If this isn't the tragedy that finally propels this gun-loving country to finally do something about guns, then I really don't know what will.
Twenty babies, all dead. Six adults, all dead.
Is it still going to be same shit, different day, much as it has become as it concerns gun violence and any kind of discussion about guns?
Will we cry and wring our hands, and feel bad for everyone concerned for a day, or a week, or a month -- as we did after Columbine, Virginia Tech, Batman, and whatever other mass shooting du jour over the past 20-some years -- or will we dare to go beyond the rhetoric and ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING??
Wayne LaPierre and the NRA may own most of Congress. But ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
Will the United States finally get the message NOW?????
freshwest
(53,661 posts)another_liberal
(8,821 posts)That is a very good point you make about A.L.E.C. being equally to blame for this.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)So all of this is legal, until someone gets killed. And then the mantra is, 'that's just the way it is.'
ballaratocker
(126 posts)had a gun.
Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)so I expect the NRA will give this time time to blow over and then it will be business as usual..and watch and see..bet you anything they will attack Obama saying he wants to make political points over taking gun rights away.. Best defense being a good offense
History says that is the way it will work out..bet you anything that nothing is done...but if 20 sons and daughters of congressmen were killed..well then it would be a different story.. but money rules and the NRA has it and the parents of these kids dont..
Care Acutely
(1,370 posts)learning the alphabet, vocabulary words, Christmas lists for Santa . . .
Fuck the gun-humping NRA anti-sanity brigade that enabled this tragedy, and would happily let the carnage continue as long as they can keep playing with their bang-bang toys at will.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)do I think so many Congressmen/women have the cohones to address this issue EVEN NOW!
This is almost an every day happening and simply OUTRAGEOUS! WHEN WILL this country WAKE up. Probably only when it happens to them. And even then they may not "get it!"
Even though there could be a risk, I try to do my shopping on line. But there are so many places you can't avoid. Lock my doors and become a recluse, we are no longer safe!
Paladin
(28,272 posts)Nice post, 11 Bravo. Thanks.
Botany
(70,582 posts)I can't but I know if you went to the NRA web site you would see all kinds of
shit about Freedom and Liberty but what about our 1st amendment right
to life and liberty?
BTW I would be in favor of a national movement to drop off shovels in front
of the NRA so they can go help and dig the graves.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)What MORE facts do they need????
They need to own their part in creating this mindless gun culture that we have. No way around it.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)think George Carlin had this one in the bag. Protection in the womb... but ones your out. your fucked. Usually they want live babies to grow up to be dead soldiers. Seriously they support a party that is severely pro abortion as long as it's not in the USA
crim son
(27,464 posts)as you well know.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)David Zephyr
(22,785 posts)!
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)Our current laws regarding gun ownership are far too slanted in favor of open access to the most powerful small arms known. We must tilt that slant much more in favor of the innocent victims. And we must not forget that you and I may be among the ones murdered next time an insane outcast easily gets his hands on all the guns and ammo he could ever wish for.
The American people can shut the NRA and its lobbyists down any time they finally choose to act.
moondust
(20,006 posts)He'll be happy to bury the latest child sacrifices when he's done soaking.
Thank you.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)They are a remnant of the past.
Or,...as they say,..."Sooooo last century."
ScottLand
(2,485 posts)K&R to every DU member and to anyone within the sound of my voice.
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)Everything you said.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)no make that 29, and lay them on his lawn.
cecilfirefox
(784 posts)empty?
There has to be a constitutionally viable and reasonable way to have laws that encourage more gun safety in our culture.
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)if it'd been him instead of those innocent little children, on the receiving end of those bullets he defends so much.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)dpgillam
(6 posts)That it was the 20 year old son with personality disorder and autism, under heavy medication?
And that there are metal detectorts and tons of security measures normally in place to prevent this type of tragedy, but none were in used because it was the mentally ill son?
CNN was reporting this as of 6PM, Eastern Time
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)CHOSE TO USE HER GUNS.
October
(3,363 posts)_ed_
(1,734 posts)Why didn't the mentally ill shooter use a baseball bat or a club? Do you think the easy access to guns made a difference today?
Do you feel good about yourself regurgitating NRA talking points?
BallardWA
(97 posts)he's 16. His friends were going. My husband jokingly said "those midnight shows are lethal, dude". In actuality, snow was in the forecast and neither of us wanted to pick him up at 3AM.
We are on the West coast, so we got the news of these murders quite early.
When will we learn? What will it take? We seamlessly included mass murder into our argument last night.
We are so ashamed.
lupinella
(365 posts)R B Garr
(16,976 posts)You worded this perfectly. It really says it all.
The Wizard
(12,548 posts)could benefit from a good beating. And the country would be better off after said beating.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)fightthegoodfightnow
(7,042 posts)Notice the gun clutching crowd from DU gungeon land aren't responding in this thread.
Spryguy
(120 posts)fightthegoodfightnow
(7,042 posts)....but unfortunately, those that can make that happen are unlikely to do so. They think that any gun discussion has to be in gungeon land. I disagree.
spanone
(135,876 posts)i imagine he's laying low and staying out of the limelight.
probably sending out mailers for new prospective members.
fuck wayne.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)on their filthy hands!
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)HoosierRadical
(390 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)I'm a small hand gun owner. I did not purchase the weapon, it was a gift from my deceased father. He demanded proof on his home shooting range that I could shoot straight and true. He also knew that I had never owned a gun. I could not, would not hurt another living being; humans, deers, rabbits, squirrels, quails, or turkeys.
So why did he gift me with a weapon? I like to think it was because he knew me, heart and soul.
My father was a lifetime member of the NRA. He would be ashamed of what their lobbyists have become. Is there a political will to shut down these bat shit crazy libertarians who practice irresponsible ownership, and turn a blind eye to guarding against fire arms violence on our children?
pepper.spray
(4 posts)Dalai_1
(1,301 posts)pepper.spray
(4 posts)I'll get on f*xnews and mention it - then wayne can sweat a few days before he's put out to pasture
lusthog
(2 posts)"before he's put out to pasture"
You talk the talk.........do you walk the walk?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)The license would also include an evaluation yearly along with liability on each weapon. It might not stop all the violence but might exclude some from keeping weapons.
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flvegan
(64,416 posts)For what it is. Well done.