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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy opinion for assault weapons legislation: KEEP IT SIMPLE!
Remember the KISS Principle: Keep It Simple, Stupid!
One of the big problems with the previous assault weapons ban that has since expired was that it had a big, complicated definition of what is and isn't an "assault weapon".
There was a definition that used combinations of features such as telescoping stocks, pistol grips, etc, as well as a long list of specific models of guns.
There were enough loopholes that the gun manufacturers simply changed the designs a bit to sidestep the law. The law got ridiculed and didn't have much legitimacy in the public eye.
So I say keep it simple. Don't even use the term "assault weapon".
Make a simple law. I'd suggest the law address the property of a weapon that correlates best with its deadliness - it's ability to fire large numbers of bullets in a small amount of time.
Think about it. Even the NRA hasn't been able to remove the restrictions on the most insanely deadly firearms, full-auto machine guns (with the exception of those with Class III licenses, who pay huge taxes when they buy such weapons, and pretty much keep those weapons as collectors items. You don't see nearly as many low-class criminals or deranged school shooters that have actual full-auto weapons.) The firearms available to most mere-mortals are semi-auto. One pull of the trigger fires one bullet. No rat-a-tat, unless you don't mind ten-year prison terms.
So, I'd say the magazine cap is a good thing to bring back. You can only fire ten shots before you have to reload. Not a perfect solution, but maybe it will turn the mayhem down a notch.
I don't care if the gun has collapsible stocks, laser sights, pistol grips or racing stripes, as long as it's not capable of firing more than ten bullets at a time between reloads.
That should actually be a simple bill to write. Getting it signed into law will be insanely difficult...
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)It takes a few seconds to put in another 10 round clip.
This person was armed with multiple weapons.
I am for gun control, strict gun control, starting with limits on individual purchases, registration of all weapons, severe penalties for weapons violations including failure to keep weapons safe and secure, ban on all private sales, limits on magazine capacities and the types of weapons available to civilians.
But these steps will not end the problem. We need to end our infatuation with guns.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)I'd call it an incremental step that may make better legislation down the road less of a reach.
I'd also suggest licensing, with training and maybe even criminal-record and psych-evaluation requirements, though I have no clue how to implement that in today's political climate, especially with the current Roberts Court interpretation of the Second Amendment.
Also, remember the Knoxville Unitarian church shooting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoxville_Unitarian_Universalist_church_shooting
That shooting was stopped when several congregation members tackled the shooter, took his weapons away and restrained him. If a shooter can't get access to a 30 round magazine for his Glock, like the Aurora movie shooter or the shooter of Gabby Giffords, that would potentially dial the number of deaths down.
jody
(26,624 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)here is a clue: we don't give a shit about gun trivia.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Part of the reason why the Brady Assault Weapons ban failed was because it had a clumsy, complicated definition of an "assault weapon", and the Gungeoneer types immediately ridiculed it. It didn't resonate with the public, it didn't feel legitimate, the gun-makers sidestepped the ban and created weapons which were still very deadly.
If you want to implement gun control (and I do. I don't want to ban guns entirely, but I think restricting high-capacity weapons and licensing owners is perfectly reasonable, given how many people keep getting killed,) I'd suggest doing some research. Learn about the various types of guns that are available to the public, how they work, how they're used.
My suggestions:
Ten round magazine cap on rifles and semi-automatic pistols.
Five round cap on semi-auto and pump-action shotguns.
Certainly, no more magazines like these...
Revolvers, on the most part, are self-limiting. Most designs give you five or six shots between reloads, some as many as eight. A revolver that can hold more shots than that would be ridiculous. And in my personal experience, it's a bit harder to fire them fast - they have a long, heavy trigger pull (unless you cock the hammer first, but if you're rapid-firing, you're not going to cock before firing every round. Old-West-era single-action revolvers could be fired by fanning the hammer, though that's incredibly inaccurate, unless you're insanely good. Fanning also can damage your revolver.)
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)"gun trivia".
denverbill
(11,489 posts)Not modifiable to accept clips. Not even six-shooters.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)denverbill
(11,489 posts)And a whole lot of gun owners wouldn't like it either. But most big game hunters only plan on one shot. Duck hunters might miss pump action shotguns, but I think taking one duck at a time isn't too big a sacrifice.
Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)In a week, we'll again be seeing pro second amendment posts here. For now, the I've got a right to slaughter dozens of innocent's are keeping quiet, but give it a week when the passion dies down. Then, then we'll see them back calling us unconstitutional for wanting to save a few thousand lives every year from their rights.