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Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,275 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 05:57 PM Dec 2024

Tin foil hat time: WTF is going on with the drones in New Jersey?

New Jersey residents and lawmakers are pushing for more information about the mysterious drone sightings, including some near military installations.

A federal official said Thursday that the FBI is the lead agency investigating along with the New Jersey state police. Local law enforcement are also investigating.

New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy said during a call-in program on Wednesday night that he would be bringing up the issue with the White House on Thursday but assured constituents that the drones as of now don't appear to pose a safety threat.

"Based on everything we know," Murphy said, "there is no public safety risk we're aware of. On the other hand, is it frustrating to not have more answers on this? Is it frustrating to not have a source for these things? Yes."

/Snip https://www.cbsnews.com/news/drones-new-jersey-what-we-know/

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Tin foil hat time: WTF is going on with the drones in New Jersey? (Original Post) Tom Yossarian Joad Dec 2024 OP
They're intercepting the wifi of some person(s) of interest in the area. PeaceWave Dec 2024 #1
It's happening in proximity to one of the larger military reservations on the East Coast... Dennis Donovan Dec 2024 #2
Sightings in Montclair Mossfern Dec 2024 #7
And there's this in Oregon... oregonjen Dec 2024 #3
Apparently they were showing up on collision avoidance systems so I wouldn't think so. ATC traffic recordings: Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2024 #19
Why are there apparently no images of said "drones". Disaffected Dec 2024 #4
They showed videos this morning on the news. Elessar Zappa Dec 2024 #10
Hmm, blurry lights darting about in the sky - where have we seen that before? Disaffected Dec 2024 #15
They're coming to rescue us. These are the initial reconnaissance operations. bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #5
There's another thread about this, which refers to an earlier one. !The silence is deafening! usonian Dec 2024 #6
Whenever our government gets caught doing something that nobody is supposed to know about, allegorical oracle Dec 2024 #8
OP, I have a long thread here about this soandso Dec 2024 #9
Well, that stinks. Seems many really love that alert button but I think while not perfect it does more good than harm. Tom Yossarian Joad Dec 2024 #13
Well, hopefully the ALIENS that want to SERVE MAN (like the twilight zone) bluestarone Dec 2024 #11
Some have reported car clocks reset. Kid Berwyn Dec 2024 #12
{WOW} Tom Yossarian Joad Dec 2024 #14
What about milk turning sour? Disaffected Dec 2024 #16
How many local TV news departments in the area have helicopters? NotASurfer Dec 2024 #17
I think it is something to do with Elon Musk Trenzalore Dec 2024 #18

PeaceWave

(2,303 posts)
1. They're intercepting the wifi of some person(s) of interest in the area.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:00 PM
Dec 2024

Compliments of the Patriot Act that none of us ever sufficiently protested against. Meanwhile, everyone else in the area is essentially collateral damage, also getting all their info intercepted.

Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
2. It's happening in proximity to one of the larger military reservations on the East Coast...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:02 PM
Dec 2024

...Joint Base McGuire–Dix–Lakehurst. Surely, they either know what they are or, at least, where they come from. They're not telling anyone, which makes me think it could be US military-related.

Mossfern

(4,480 posts)
7. Sightings in Montclair
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:18 PM
Dec 2024

No military bases as far as I know, and I live much less than a mile from the border.
I'm not too happy about this. Today we got an alert to expect helicopter presence above.

oregonjen

(3,619 posts)
3. And there's this in Oregon...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:05 PM
Dec 2024

Pilots report mysterious lights 'moving at extreme speeds' across Oregon skies

PORTLAND, Ore. — At least four commercial pilots encountered mysterious lights zipping through the skies above Oregon this past weekend.
One pilot flying an air ambulance reported a bright light streaking toward his Life Flight plane, with it suddenly reversing back toward the Pacific Ocean.
“Red in color — moving at extreme speeds. I don’t even know how to describe how fast it was moving,” the pilot told air traffic control.


https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/pilots-report-mysterious-lights-oregon-skies-ufo-sightings/283-a0aa588d-a86d-484c-b188-512bd94d81b6


A scientist is saying it’s Starlink, but is it?

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,306 posts)
19. Apparently they were showing up on collision avoidance systems so I wouldn't think so. ATC traffic recordings:
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:40 PM
Dec 2024
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Disaffected

(5,964 posts)
4. Why are there apparently no images of said "drones".
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:06 PM
Dec 2024

Some as "big as cars", or so claimed, yet not a single (at least clear) image that I've seen.

All this has the unpleasant aroma of UFO hysteria.

Elessar Zappa

(16,381 posts)
10. They showed videos this morning on the news.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:51 PM
Dec 2024

Crystal clear. There’s no question these sightings are real, the question is who’s behind it? Could be private citizens, a company, our military or someone else’s military. I think aliens are very low on the likelihood totem pole.

Disaffected

(5,964 posts)
15. Hmm, blurry lights darting about in the sky - where have we seen that before?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:19 PM
Dec 2024

Looks more to me like ground level lasers reflecting off clouds rather than flying objects or, as is often the case with these types of sightings, some other sort of optical phenomena.



Do you have a cite to better imagining?

bucolic_frolic

(53,025 posts)
5. They're coming to rescue us. These are the initial reconnaissance operations.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:10 PM
Dec 2024

So obvious hardly needs to be stated.

usonian

(22,015 posts)
6. There's another thread about this, which refers to an earlier one. !The silence is deafening!
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:12 PM
Dec 2024
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143355210

My hope is that the drones are carrying ground-penetrating radar, looking for an "incriminating" trove (does the phrase "classified documents" strike a familiar note?) and what if secret hardware or ..... bodies? weapons? Find it now or find it never. JUST MY SUSPICION

I DO NOT think it's the work of the FSM (Flying Spaghetti Monster) though YMMV (Your macaroni may vary)



I doubt it's enemies/aliens because fighter jets and artillery would have smacked them down immediately.

allegorical oracle

(5,919 posts)
8. Whenever our government gets caught doing something that nobody is supposed to know about,
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:25 PM
Dec 2024

everybody gets unusually mum all the while assuring the public that the "threat" is harmless. How does the gov't. know that it's harmless? My money's on the gov't knowing what it is. And it may belong to the gov't.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
9. OP, I have a long thread here about this
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:49 PM
Dec 2024

but someone alerted on one of posts, got it removed, so I can't reply to my own damn thread. It's full of videos and good info. Why is the hell would anyone alert on something that's all over the news, every day? There's been a congressional hearing on it, a Pentagon meeting, and a meeting with 500 mayors.

Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,275 posts)
13. Well, that stinks. Seems many really love that alert button but I think while not perfect it does more good than harm.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:15 PM
Dec 2024

bluestarone

(20,637 posts)
11. Well, hopefully the ALIENS that want to SERVE MAN (like the twilight zone)
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:53 PM
Dec 2024

Are coming to get tRUMP.

Kid Berwyn

(22,165 posts)
12. Some have reported car clocks reset.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:00 PM
Dec 2024

Which may indicate an ability to mimic GPS satellite telemetry, a useful attribute for technologies vacuuming telcom and other data.

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/mystery-drones-changing-time-clocks-852241

NotASurfer

(2,357 posts)
17. How many local TV news departments in the area have helicopters?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:27 PM
Dec 2024

When I lived in SoCal many years ago, stations would scramble the helicopter s when there was a police pursuit on the freeways, or after a minor earthquake just in case they could get video of a crack in pavement somewhere near the epicenter.

Surprising to me that nobody diverts the Channel 28 Action News TraffiCopter (c) from covering the backup on l-76 to get Breaking News! Exclusive Footage! of a suspicious drone.

Or maybe news and helicopters aren't a thing in NJ

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