I have a question are we here at DU really going to be able to be in this fight to save our Democracy.

[usaf-vet]

I had a post block yesterday for not Supporting Democrats. I appealed the block and won on appeal. But a post that sits for 24 hours before being released is, as they say, sits in the dustbin of history.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19987074

Are we in this fight or are we just casual observers?

I think democrats who are just sitting on their hands and collecting their paychecks NEED TO BE CALLED OUT by all means possible.

Only a VERY SMALL portion of the Democratic members of Congress seem to have the "BALLS" strike that,.... intestinal fortitude to stand up and fight. At the head of the public opposition, two women have more "intestinal fortitude" than most of their male counterparts.

AOC Today https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219986805

As a veteran who took an oath 60 years ago to follow in my dad's footsteps, I still honor that oath as he did. And I think of all the unknown young men and women who have died in defense of the oath to defend the CONSTITUTION. And especially four of my high school classmates, whose names are among the 58,000 names on the "Wall" who died in our generational war.

I'm fighting for those who no longer have a voice.

I'm not willing to give up so as not to hurt someone's feelings who sits in Congress and collects a paycheck and plots how to keep their seat by not muttering a word in opposition to the OUT AND OUT ASSAULT on our democracy.

This from another post this morning on these pages.
A 25-year-old engineer named Marko Elez, who previously worked for two Elon Musk companies, has direct access to Treasury Department systems responsible for nearly all payments made by the US government, three sources tell WIRED.

Musk and his band of twenty-year-olds have been given access to OUR (yours and ours) financial records.

RAISE YOUR HAND if you are alright with the BULLSHIT!

[Irish_Dem]

1. I am puzzled too.

USAF-Vet: I am a USAF military brat, so maybe we are wired in a similar way.

To win a war, you have to face reality whether you like that reality or not.
To make the best battle plan it must be based on facts and evidence.
Not wishful thinking, not the most negative outcome, but the truth.

Yet when some of us try to be realistic based on data, facts, evidence
we are shot down for not being positive.

Well damnit, I am trying to win a war, not sing songs around the campfire and
have a good time.

[usaf-vet]

4. And a respectful Kumbaya to you. Yes, we are seemingly wired in similar ways!

[Hugin]

6. We see a Dunkirk forming and see the Maginot line of injunctions falling.

At the same time knowing the blitzkrieg has over expanded their supply lines and are running on fumes.

[Irish_Dem]

8. But we are like Churchill right now.

Unless we get our act together and get reinforcements, we will be speaking German soon.

[Hugin]

11. To throw even more on this overburdened metaphor...

We understand the dangers of letting the blitz regroup, resupply, and consolidate. High pressure must be maintained.

It’s a heck of a lot harder to prevail if they do. I don’t see the will for a D-day out there.

[Irish_Dem]

12. Yes Americans have no will to fight for democracy.

At least the Brits were willing to fight.
France just rolled over for Hitler.
We are like France right now.

[Evolve Dammit]

24. French Resistance might differ?

[keep_left]

25. Damn straight! (Or whatever the equivalent is...

...en français).

[Irish_Dem]

26. Of course you know the French resistance could never have won the war.

Dec 7 1941 was the date when Churchill knew Hitler would be defeated.

[Harker]

29. Over 200,000 French military personnel were killed.

Being defeated quickly and "rolling over" are very different things.

Many French continued to fight and die after the initial defeat of 1940.

[Irish_Dem]

31. Churchill refused to believe France had surrender so quickly.

He could not believe it and had to fly to Paris and confirm it.
He expected them to put up a decent fight.

Well yes there was French resistance after their total surrender,
but you know they could not have won the war on their own.

[Harker]

33. Yes, I do know that the French resistance wouldn't have won the war on their own...

but I do very much admire the bravery and resourcefulness of the French men and women who fought against the Nazis, both as civilians and in uniform, in 1940-1945.

[Hugin]

30. Oh, yes! The French Resistance and the Free French.

They held on through the worst of times and success would have been impossible without them.

[kiri]

32. Merrick Garland was protected by DU admins

Earl G's ban on criticism of Dems makes him complicit in the rise of Trump.

Every day sees another win for Merrick Garland. And a loss for America

[AKwannabe]

2. Maybe your posts belong in the way forward

Less chance of getting juried.

I was just on a jury for this post and I believe it should be in the other forum.

Read the rules of each?

[gab13by13]

9. Whatever, I got spanked for putting a thread about my outdoor cats in the wrong forum.

Put me on juries for people who make honest mistakes.

[Irish_Dem]

10. I am dumbfounded.

We are in a war to save our democracy and our lives.
And we are going to shitcan posts trying to save us.

USAF Vet deserves a DU medal, not being sent to the brig.

[AKwannabe]

19. Earlg and the admins put the forum header on alerted posts for a reason

It is so that when we are on a jury we can understand why a OP might have some critiques and criticisms of Democratic officials. Following the rules of DU is what is needed.

If the OP were in the way forward we would not be having this conversation.

Emotions are running high. I am not putting USAF Vet in the brig. That person has made their own choices.

I simply pointed out that the OP may belong in a different forum. Rules matter. Laws matter.

[Irish_Dem]

20. We will lose this war.

There is a lot of talent and brilliant minds on this forum being shut down.

[AKwannabe]

21. This post was not shut down

You are exacerbating.

Is it to validate the DUer?
Protect the DUer?

No, I really don’t think so. It is to shut down those who might have a different view. That is what I think you are doing in this thread. Carry on.

I (again) simply pointed out that this OP may belong in a different forum. And I won’t back down or be shut down.

[usaf-vet]

22. I took your appreciated advice and will likely be using "The Way Forward" THANKS AGAIN!

But to the blocked post.

I did not receive ANY INDICATION within the blocked message that it might have been better in "The Way Forward" forum.

It's just said that it was blocked for (not) "Supporting Democrats."

[WheelWalker]

3. I am NOT alright with the bullshit! Fight, God damn it! The threat is existential.

If our leaders cannot fight with the heart of an American, at least fight with the heart of a Ukrainian.

[usaf-vet]

5. Your point is dead on!

[The Wandering Harper]

7. word

K & R

[markie]

13. I had a discussion

with my daughter yesterday... about what I am willing to do in this fight. Ok, so I am just a little old woman, but if the opportunity presents itself.... she stressed that it would only be if we were certain of it making a difference

[usaf-vet]

14. I feel an obligation to my veteran grandfather, and my dad and especially to my HS Classmate KIA in Vietnam......

..... to speak for those who no longer have a voice.

[markie]

17. hmmm, yup

my grandfather (WWI), my father (WWII), good friend (Navy), 1st husband, deceased (US Marines), 2nd husband, deceased (Air Force), current partner (Jew w/grandparents escaped Nazism) ....and all the good people still fighting

I have my voice and willing to give more if need be

[bigtree]

15. meh. If you're needling Democrats right now, you're doing opposition politics wrong

...call them and tell them how you feel.

What's not acceptable to me is imagining you're speaking to them by posting on a Democratic message board, and doing little more than generating cynicism with generalizations about only a 'small' number of Democrats who have 'balls,' as if that dubious masochism actually represents strength.

This is a civilian government, not a military operation, and most Americans deal with what challenges them with resolve, not necessarily relying on masochistic histrionics.

Has it occurred to you that many people may not respond well to shouty appeals?

[Hotler]

16. Gumption is a handy word. nt

[jalan48]

18. I think DU has a large contingent of cheerleaders.

When things are going well for Dems, cheerleading passes for political strategy. Now that Trump Inc. has taken over, cheerleading has been as exposed as foolish and ineffective.

[Jarqui]

23. Since the election, I've been looking for a way to fight back

I'm not into shadow boxing.
I'm looking for guidance and leadership on how to land some real, effective punches.

Sadly, I'm still looking.
I haven't found anything where I feel my efforts could contribute to making a difference.

I will never give in or give up.
This struggle is bigger than the country.
It will probably decide where we go as a species from this moment onwards.

[Initech]

27. My hopes that a James Bond type hero that will save us from this nightmare are diminishing by the minute.

[DENVERPOPS]

28. I say again

The perfect title for a book about the past 45+ years would be:

WHILE THE NATION SLEPT

And that exp includes Dem Leadership and Politicians:

Documented by: the lack of outrage and hell raising by them, about:

Citizens United, the 2000 election, the 2004 election, the 2016 election.....Or even going back to the 1980 election, when HWBush and his CABAL committed treason to steal the presidency from Carter.

In my opinion,

They were all hiking down the jungle path, swatting at mosquitoes, oblivious to the Herd of Charging Elephants....pun intended.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

34. I may attend this protest

This protest is fairly close to me

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