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The Wandering Harper

(915 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:59 AM Feb 2025

I was telling a friend who fell into TikTok

- and before anyone responds,
I respectfully request you seriously consider your response if you're not Black,
and before anyone assumes my friend's age, they are 54 years old -
that my major problem with TikTok and why I never made an account,
is that I think it and things like it are wrecking our collective attention span.
One of their defenses was "the revolution is being televised on TIkTok"
I said, "Maybe you don't really understand that song."
I couldn't explain why, but it felt wrong to me for them to put that song in that context.
I still can't explain why. And I'm not sure myself that I really understand the song



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I was telling a friend who fell into TikTok (Original Post) The Wandering Harper Feb 2025 OP
What I take from it I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2025 #1
that was a well-considered response, thank you The Wandering Harper Feb 2025 #2
Exactly... Hitorque Feb 2025 #3
The revolution will not be right back Celerity Feb 2025 #4
You do realize that there are 10 minute videos and live streams LuvLoogie Feb 2025 #5
ten minute max is still too short IMO The Wandering Harper Feb 2025 #6
The interaction on TikTok is more organic LuvLoogie Feb 2025 #8
I won't deny it's got great creative potential The Wandering Harper Feb 2025 #11
Most who don't like TikTok, haven't used TikTok JoseBalow Feb 2025 #10
see #11 The Wandering Harper Feb 2025 #12
I would reccomend I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2025 #15
Gil Scott -Heron Keepthesoulalive Feb 2025 #7
thank you for that bit of insight on the man The Wandering Harper Feb 2025 #9
New York City girl Keepthesoulalive Feb 2025 #14
I think he's saying democracy is not a spectator sport. Qutzupalotl Feb 2025 #13

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,147 posts)
1. What I take from it
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:22 AM
Feb 2025

Are a few different things I took from the song

First a revolution won’t make money for corporations. They won’t be able to exploit it because it tears the corporate state apart and people can realize there is a life beyond capitalism and consumerism and that’s the last thing corporations want to draw attention to.

Revolution won’t happen if you are in your livingroom watching tv or on your you tubes, you have to physically leave your house and seek out like minded people.


Thirdly people need to come together in person to have a revolution because a revolution to be effective needs actual community and connection to others in person to share resources share the work march or fight together and to aid one another among a million other things.

And
It by necessity creates the bonds that bring equality annd justice itself to fruition and changes the very fabric and structure of society for the better. It helps you realize hierarchical power is empty.

I hope what I said was ok. Not intending to offend.

2. that was a well-considered response, thank you
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:29 AM
Feb 2025

I'm not sure I'm in a position to take offense or not, I'm not Black.
But I made that request to try to slow down any clueless kneejerk responses.
Your second and third points clarify things for me

Celerity

(51,143 posts)
4. The revolution will not be right back
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:34 AM
Feb 2025

After a message about a white tornado
White lightning, or white people
You will not have to worry about a dove in your bedroom
The tiger in your tank, or the giant in your toilet bowl
The revolution will not go better with Coke
The revolution will not fight germs that may cause bad breath
The revolution will put you in the driver's seat

The revolution will not be televised
Will not be televised
Will not be televised
Will not be televised
The revolution will be no re-run, brothers.........................

The revolution will be live

LuvLoogie

(8,170 posts)
5. You do realize that there are 10 minute videos and live streams
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:37 AM
Feb 2025

on TikTok? Also The political videos tend to be on the longer side expressing a coherent point. Sure a lot of videos are meme like, but I recommend spending a couple weeks lurking and seeking out progressive posters. You'll be surprised.

Why do you think they are so he'll bent on banning it? It sure ain't about data protection LOL.

6. ten minute max is still too short IMO
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:39 AM
Feb 2025

most of the political videos I enjoy on youtube are half hour minimum

LuvLoogie

(8,170 posts)
8. The interaction on TikTok is more organic
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:52 AM
Feb 2025

The video links in the comment answers by the creators is brilliant, as is the stitching together of different videos from different creators.

Plus creating a video on the fly is so easy. And the way information can get quickly relayed is great as well. And a lot of the shorter videos can get really creative as well.

11. I won't deny it's got great creative potential
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:04 AM
Feb 2025

but I'm not dissuaded from my dangerous because wrecking attention spans theory

JoseBalow

(8,021 posts)
10. Most who don't like TikTok, haven't used TikTok
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:01 AM
Feb 2025

or don't know how to easily use it properly. If you're not seeing exactly what you want, you're doing it wrong. I've got my FYP dialed in perfectly, I see just the right mix of who and what I want to watch.

There's a reason it's one of the most popular apps, and it's not because it sucks.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,147 posts)
15. I would reccomend
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 03:02 PM
Feb 2025

In seeking followers to your feed list look for blue hearts in descriptions look for certain phrases like cute winter boots and soup for my family. Magats try to infiltrate liberal spaces also block Elon musk trump instagram meta official pages and block any and all sites that relate to them. Your feed will stay clean and it will be left side only. People organize and so many people are so eloquent and to the point when they have 10 minutes to talk. Some posts can be like a half hour long too.

The 50 states protest started on TikTok btw.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,588 posts)
7. Gil Scott -Heron
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:45 AM
Feb 2025

Was gifted with foresight and a great bullshit meter. Some of the other things he rapped about have come true ie the United States has become a consumer nation rather than a producing nation. He was a man who felt things deeply and saw things most Americans didn’t want to see, it also caused some self destructive behaviors.

9. thank you for that bit of insight on the man
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:55 AM
Feb 2025

"He was a man who felt things deeply and saw things most Americans didn’t want to see,
it also caused some self destructive behaviors."
I can fuckin relate.
Handled some of my delf-destructive behaviors,
still working on some others

Qutzupalotl

(15,444 posts)
13. I think he's saying democracy is not a spectator sport.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:35 AM
Feb 2025

The revolution begins when YOU show up, in person. If you're watching it on a screen, you're not an active participant, but that's what is needed now.

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