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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTime for Dems to hear out Arab voters who have buyers remorse
Yes, I hate Rashida Tlaib for misleading Arab voters. She has put them at risk. If they protest about Gaza, Arab voters risk shipped to Guantanamo. I have no doubt. I don't like Arab voters against Harris. They brought it on themselves. However, ethnic cleansing in Gaza is going to be real. On balance, I am willing to hear out and welcome back. I am assuming they will never go back to the Orange Turd or Jill Stein ever again. As far as Rashida is concerned, I give her no sympathy for misleading. Arab voters need someone more responsible than Rashida or Ihlan Omar. Omar is sometimes too racist for me. On our side, that Netanyahu hug by Biden was fatal. Now, Netanyahu is having Trump do his bidding. Wow!
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Raven123
(6,869 posts)Hear our what?
kansasobama
(1,750 posts)I want to not hate anymore and rethink and rebuild and let bygones be bygones. I want some Arab voters to understand that Hamas did attack Israel. I want to hear out Arab voters side if they acknowledge this attack. Rashida never acknowledged this.
OrlandoDem2
(3,023 posts)THEY FUCKED UP!
THEY CAN COME BACK TO THE DEMOCRATIC FOLD BUT THEY NEED TO PIPE DOWN AND KEEP QUIET!!
iemanja
(56,294 posts)Every citizen has a right to express their views, but they need to vote Dem—consistently. Most Muslims do, but a sizable contingent obviously voted for Trump.
elocs
(24,486 posts)And there were a lot of them. Where did those 6 million votes that Biden got but Harris never saw go? I've yet to hear a good explanation about that. Do we have Democrats who just cannot bring themselves to vote for a female Democratic candidate for president?
I also believe that Democrats were too complacent and over-confident in this past election.
Evidently in America, the love of democracy is broad but shallow.
Basso8vb
(1,197 posts)BootinUp
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Johonny
(24,200 posts)But they were warned. An yes, their community political leaders let them down. Now they have to pray Trump can't deliver on his promises.
NutmegYankee
(16,431 posts)They supported evil.
Fullduplexxx
(8,529 posts)Ace Rothstein
(3,355 posts)Many of those people are pro-Hamas, or at least excuse the terrorism, and should not have a place in our coalition.
ck4829
(37,018 posts)sop
(15,247 posts)Some voting group decides to focus too narrowly on a particular issue, loses sight of the bigger picture, votes the wrong way then, after the smoke clears, reluctantly admits it didn't turn out how they expected. You'd think people would have learned how the two-party system works by now.
Abolishinist
(2,649 posts)iemanja
(56,294 posts)Says who? Them? The news reports I've heard have been full of excuses for Trump.
durablend
(8,427 posts)Then next time when they don't get their pony they vote for him again?
Sorry, no.
sarisataka
(21,810 posts)
Cha
(313,117 posts)
kansasobama
(1,750 posts)Oh No. Not them. I am saying only those who realize they made a mistake and would never go back to the Orange Turd. By the way. I would prefer they permanently disown Rashida. She has a big hand in this.
Not everyone is pro-Hamas. Yes, if they are pro-Hamas, go away. Also, Arabs who return to us need to accept Hamas attacked Israel. I am not saying they accept Netanyahu. No. Netanyahu used Hamas attack to commit war crimes in Gaza. Just like Bush used 9/11 to destroy Iraq. Trump is attempting ethnic cleansing in Gaza.
LetMyPeopleVote
(166,564 posts)Muslim voters should have never voted for TFG. TFG was always going to side with Bibi and never gave a darn about Gaza or Muslims. Now these voters are realizing their mistake
Trump-backing Muslim voters finally realize they 'made a big mistake': expert: James Zogby, the president of the Arab American Institute, told CNN's Brianna Keilar on Wednesday that many Muslim voters are regretting the decisions they made in the 2024 presidential election.
— #TuckFrump (@realtuckfrumper.bsky.social) 2025-02-05T20:08:05Z
As Keilar noted while…
Link to tweet
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-muslim-voters/
As Keilar noted while interviewing Zogby, Trump received a major boost from Muslim voters in 2024 due to anger against the Biden administration for its role in helping the Israeli government's war in Gaza that has killed more than 50,000 Palestinians and that Zogby described to CNN as a "genocide.".....
When asked by Keilar if he'd spoken with any of these voters since the election, he replied that he had and they were firmly against Trump's recently stated desire to ethnically cleanse Gaza by removing all Palestinians from their land.
"Many of [the voters] stayed home, and some of them voted for Donald Trump," he said. "But they are now feeling very clearly that they made a big mistake. And, you know, sort of like the kid who gets in trouble and his parents send him to his room and he goes out there and starts throwing stuff around... in a pique of anger. All he's got is a mess and that's what we've got here.
"People didn't vote for Kamala Harris. They voted for Donald Trump. They had their tantrum. And now look what we got. We got a crazy man in the White House who's doing and projecting things that are really, really problematic."
Cha
(313,117 posts)their Stupidity?! 
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TY!
kansasobama
(1,750 posts)I don't want any Rashida supporting Dem. Rashida is anti-Israel. I want Arab voters who want to help us fight fascism in the US. Our country will not exist. Trump definitely has a head start. If this continues, we will not recognize this country in 2 years. Arab voters need to work hard at delivering Michigan Senate seat for Dems. They owe this to us
JoseBalow
(7,966 posts)Plenty of people saying how they think others feel, or how others should feel. I want to hear it from their own mouths, and I have not yet heard "I regret" from a single drumpf voter.
LetMyPeopleVote
(166,564 posts)JoseBalow
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Wingus Dingus
(9,173 posts)That's now an unreliable voting bloc.
LetMyPeopleVote
(166,564 posts)Donald Trump has a message for voters who disapprove of President Joe Biden’s Israel/Gaza policy from the left: The Republican intends to be vastly worse.
Link to tweet
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-hardline-position-us-policy-gaza-matters-rcna150391
The Biden White House, for example, acknowledged this week that it is, as the Associated Press reported, “weighing measures to help Palestinians living in the United States who want to bring family from the war-torn region.”
Soon after, as Reuters reported, the presumptive GOP nominee shared his thoughts on the subject at a campaign rally.
“Your towns and villages will now be accepting people from Gaza and various other places,” Trump said, eliciting boos from the crowd. “Under no circumstances shall we bring thousands of refugees.” Last week, Trump described the pro-Palestinian protests as driven by “tremendous hate” while asserting that the violence at a 2017 white nationalist rally with some Trump supporters in Charlottesville, Virginia, when he was president was small by comparison.
Note, at one of his campaign events yesterday, Trump appeared to goad his followers in Wisconsin into booing Palestinian refugees.
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At the same event, the former president also vowed to restore and expand the Muslim ban he imposed during his first term......
The former president also endorsed ongoing Israeli military operations, saying, “We have to let Israel complete their war on terror. It’s a horrible thing, but they have to do it.” Trump added that Israel must “clean out the cancer.”
Let’s also not forget a New York Times report from March that said top members of Trump’s team want to expel Palestinians from Gaza.
It’s as if the Republican is going out of his way to alienate voters who, given their frustrations with Biden’s policy, might be inclined to give Trump a second look.
TFG will bring back the Muslim ban, give Bibi free reign to bomb and destroy Gaza and expel Palestinians from Gaza so that Jared can build his resorts.
Cha
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Polybius
(20,559 posts)Agree 100%, they had to have known that Trump would be much worse.
ornotna
(11,309 posts)And this is from someone born and raised in the middle east. Many fond memories from there and the people. They had a chance to listen to the facts and reasonable points of view and chose the liar in chief.
Nope.
kansasobama
(1,750 posts)Should we give them a chance to redeem? Join us to fight fascism? I don't even want to say save democracy. Democracy is gone.
MarineCombatEngineer
(15,864 posts)They helped put this monster back into power despite knowing what he was all about.
There is no place, AFAIC, in our party for them.
LetMyPeopleVote
(166,564 posts)“We’re going to take it, we’re going to hold it,” the president told reporters, in reference to Gaza, failing to explain how this is supposed to happen.
‘We’re going to take it’: Trump’s Gaza plan goes in an indefensible direction
— Turquoise Cat ✌ï¸ðŸ’™ðŸ˜» (@turquoise-cat.bsky.social) 2025-02-12T18:51:50.710Z
“We’re going to take it, we’re going to hold it,†the president told reporters, in reference to Gaza, failing to explain how this is supposed to happen.
#FvckTrump
“We’re going to take it, we’re going to hold it,” the president told reporters, in reference to Gaza, failing to explain how this is supposed to happen.
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/re-going-take-trumps-gaza-plan-goes-indefensible-direction-rcna191855
“We’re going to take it, we’re going to hold it,” the president told reporters, in reference to Gaza, failing to explain how, exactly, this is supposed to happen.
As for the cost, Trump apparently wasn’t concerned, declaring, “There’s nothing to buy.”
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:iu4j537hox5huj4bwnwgub4z/post/3lhwbfzlbtb2j
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For good measure, the Republican added that “nobody is going to question” U.S. ownership of Gaza because ... well, he never quite got around to explaining why.
Just as importantly, as experts in international law continue to explain that his plan is illegal, Trump was asked how the United States could legally claim Palestinian territory as its own. The president cited “U.S. authority.”
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:iu4j537hox5huj4bwnwgub4z/post/3lhwbhc534u27
Link to tweet
It’s a colonizing perspective rooted in the idea that if the United States wants foreign territory, it should take the foreign territory because the United States wants it.
To reiterate a point from last week, if you voted for Trump because you expected foreign policy restraint, I have some awful news for you.
Keepthesoulalive
(1,563 posts)They also helped sell America out. They called the democratic candidate names and said they would rather vote for Satan ,well they got him. They voted for Jill Stein and uncommitted. They conveniently forgot how badly Muslims were treated under Trump. No sympathy, this ain’t our fight . They need to work in their own community and figure a way to help the people they sold down the river.
taxi
(2,403 posts)It just stands to reason that the current office holders will be more willing to listen to those who supported their campaigns than to those who did not.
Polybius
(20,559 posts)DeepWinter
(931 posts)of any Middle Eastern peoplein my circle who regret voting for Trump. They like him and overall they're pretty anti-LGBTQ.
The POC vote is pretty splintered and all over the place.
kansasobama
(1,750 posts)There is no room for sympathy if what you said is true. I was merely trying to see how we can save our country. Reason why it is hard to figure out
betsuni
(28,109 posts)Biden hugged someone, Jeffries did a church-tweet on Sunday morning, Hillary was paid for a speech, Kamala didn't change U.S. foreign policy by herself, Obama-drones, Democrats didn't stop capitalism (status quo) 
SkylineChili
(59 posts)None of the Trump Voters I know regret a thing. If anything, they are doubling down. The OP post is really hard for me to follow, but no, I don't see any signs they are open to listening, talking, or changing their minds. Arab voters for Trump are getting exactly what he said they would get and they are smiling as the leopard eats their faces. You can't fix stupid.
kansasobama
(1,750 posts)I am sorry my OP was hard to follow but you got what I was trying to say. I know what you say and I am dismayed. However, I think there is a percentage of Muslim voters who see their folly. They might be a small number. However. I want to bring them back to our fold provided they acknowledge the mistake.
My OP was merely a chat to find a way to save our country. I am an older person and I fear that more Trump gets solid, the less of a chance we have to get back our democracy, even in a heavily damaged form, without major disturbance. We need everyone who can help.
I am very sad to see young people who are energized for their sports teams but not to save democracy. Where are the student uprisings? Only 50% of the people are MAGA. Rest of them are not but they are splintered.
GaYellowDawg
(5,029 posts)Then I'm willing to hear them out. Until then, fuck them.
MarineCombatEngineer
(15,864 posts)At first, I thought it was an Onion or Borowitz Report.
Fuck them, they fucking well knew what was going to happen, it was said loud and clear, yet they still voted for this criminal, now they're reaping what they helped sow.
I have zero fucks to give to anyone who voted for Been A Dick Donald, especially that group.
Paladin
(31,094 posts)"Buyers remorse" my ass.
hatrack
(63,052 posts)Uh, no. Hard pass.
elocs
(24,486 posts)before the midterms. Why should they wait because in a fair vote they know they will get their butts kicked. So we need to rid ourselves of the notion that the midterms will solve everything because the way things are going I don't believe there will be midterms unless they are rigged ahead of time to approve of all that has been done in the US in the previous 2 years.
