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VMA131Marine

(5,054 posts)
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:28 PM Feb 2025

Trump defunding the 988 Suicide Hotlines

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration website offline

https://www.samhsa.gov/

Gives a 403 - forbidden message on all their web pages.

This is the agency that provides a substantial amount of funding for the regional 988 suicide prevention and crisis hotlines.

It’s not clear what’s going to happen to the hotlines themselves. My wife works as a crisis counselor on the New York 988 hotline and her company was just informed by SAMHSA that their grant was being terminated. I think they get state funding as well but layoff’s are already happening.

Apparently the Trump Administration has no interest in reducing suicides or substance abuse or helping people in crisis.

Update: the site is accessible from my Android phone using Chrome, but not from my iPhone using Safari. It works from Chrome on my iPhone.

The info about the funding for the company running the NYC 988 hotline is still accurate.

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Trump defunding the 988 Suicide Hotlines (Original Post) VMA131Marine Feb 2025 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author LisaL Feb 2025 #1
Comes up SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2025 #2
This one works VMA131Marine Feb 2025 #3
The main one works, the one in your OP AZJonnie Feb 2025 #6
I went to the site SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2025 #7
It's the Safari browser on my iPhone VMA131Marine Feb 2025 #9
403 error SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2025 #10
The site apparently doesnt like Safari VMA131Marine Feb 2025 #11
SAMHSA website is no longer down, thankfully AZJonnie Feb 2025 #4
It's still inaccessible to me VMA131Marine Feb 2025 #5
I did use the word 'hopefully' for a reason my friend AZJonnie Feb 2025 #12
Russia has a high suicide rate. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #8
The site is not down JoseBalow Feb 2025 #13
I did edit it VMA131Marine Feb 2025 #15
The site is not offline, and it is not giving 403 errors on all pages JoseBalow Feb 2025 #17
It does if you use Safari on an iPhone. VMA131Marine Feb 2025 #18
I don't understand how federal 988 grant/funding works. Igel Feb 2025 #14
For my wife's company, VMA131Marine Feb 2025 #16

Response to VMA131Marine (Original post)

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,825 posts)
7. I went to the site
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:39 PM
Feb 2025

in your OP and every link I hit worked, so don’t know what’s happening for you.

AZJonnie

(1,020 posts)
4. SAMHSA website is no longer down, thankfully
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:37 PM
Feb 2025

Sorry bout your wife's job. Hopefully her company's is an isolated case. It would be really horrible for the entire service to be eliminated, and/or SAMHSA in general eliminated

VMA131Marine

(5,054 posts)
5. It's still inaccessible to me
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:38 PM
Feb 2025

And do you really think this is just an isolated case? The 988 line that covers New York City? Get real!

AZJonnie

(1,020 posts)
12. I did use the word 'hopefully' for a reason my friend
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 06:45 PM
Feb 2025

As in, that's what I hope. I didn't proclaim it as 'likely'. Also try hitting the site in Incognito mode, this makes sure you're hitting it without any cached site cookies in play

JoseBalow

(7,896 posts)
17. The site is not offline, and it is not giving 403 errors on all pages
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 08:35 PM
Feb 2025

OP is incorrect and misleading. If that's edited, you should just delete it, honestly.

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration website offline

https://www.samhsa.gov/

Gives a 403 - forbidden message on all their web pages.

Igel

(36,945 posts)
14. I don't understand how federal 988 grant/funding works.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 07:26 PM
Feb 2025
https://www.statesman.com/story/opinion/columns/guest/2025/02/03/texas-lawmakers-should-help-fund-988-suicide-and-crisis-lifeline/78002995007/

https://www.sacurrent.com/news/mental-health-advocates-ask-texas-lawmakers-to-replace-expiring-covid-19-relief-funding-36428359

Both say that the federal funding of 988 hotlines in TX expired on 12/31/2024, which is pre-Trump and are calling on the state legislature, meeting this year, to provide permanent funding. The TX state legislature meets every 2 years.

Did the program at the federal level get defunded but your wife's company hadn't disbursed the full amount until about now?

Were grants to different states made at different times with different cut-off times?

Dunno.

VMA131Marine

(5,054 posts)
16. For my wife's company,
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 08:33 PM
Feb 2025

The Federal grant is not being renewed by SAMHSA. That means it’s going to be up to the States to fund or not.

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