I was forced today

[Texasgal]

to send my five bullet point list of "what I did this past week".

Very demeaning and depressing. As if helping over 200 Veterans obtain and receive healthcare was not enough. Our clinic is insanely busy!

Our department was forced into this. We had no choice but to answer to this shithead and his 20-year-old hackers.

At least the wine is going down smoothly. Tomorrow is another day. *sigh*

[surfered]

1. Good luck snd thank you for doing what you do.

[Solly Mack]

2. I'm so sorry this happened to you.

They had no right to demand you justify your worth.

[brer cat]

3. I'm very sorry that you are in this position.

F%$# musk and F%$# trump.

[newdeal2]

4. I assume this is going to be a weekly ritual?

Why have managers if Eloon’s good squad is assessing your performance.

[ForgedCrank]

66. I've had

to do this every week for the past 18 years at my job, everyone there who is on salary does. We even have a web form now to fill them out. There is no set number of "bullet points", but we have to list any substantial tasks that we are either working on or completed.

[soldierant]

69. "Tell me you are

an incompetent manager without telling me you are an incompetent manager."

[ForgedCrank]

72. How's that?

I mean, I don't like doing it because it's another task I have to keep up with, but the managers want to keep up on what is happening in condensed form. They then sometimes call and ask details about certain items for various reason including budgeting, etc. I've seen people get reprimanded for not doing anything, and I've also seen the information lead to hiring more people when there is a deficiency in staff levels in certain areas. Many times, I've been able to get new equipment because of some old troublemaker piece of gear is costing more money than it's saving. Frankly, I don't find it offensive at all for the people who are paying me to want to know what I'm doing all day. Seems pretty fair to me in my environment. What DOGE is up to is another argument altogether, but I don't think asking for the information is something to get all bent up about. What they may do with it is another story though. We'll know eventually, but it's kind of hard with all the bullcrap that is being spread around right now, and I'd say damn near all of it is just that; bullcrap. That's why I get irritated with these things, no one seems to want to be honest about anything and I am stuck sifting through a sea of lies and misinformation.

[soldierant]

77. Sorry - I replied to myself instead of to you - but I did explain my thoughts.

That may be just me. But I have been a manager - 10 years as a military officer - and I did get an MBA degree. I was taught that a manager/ supervisor should understand subordinates' work well enough, maybe not to do it every day, but to do it in a pinch.

[ForgedCrank]

78. Thanks for

the follow-up. You do raise valid points, but I don't think that can apply to every scene.
In my personal opinion, I think it depends on the conditions and structure at any given company. In my work, I deal with a lot of other companies rather than products so to speak, and I've seen both in various blends of chaos.
For example, in a controlled environment, lets say an accounting dept of 10 people and a manager. Yes, the manager should already know. You can tell who is producing and who isn't because you should know their job as well as they do. But when things get more generalized and a company is trying to keep the management fat trimmed as lean as possible, roles start overlapping and those managers are often at the mercy of "Rick who has been doing that specialty whatever for 37 years". The manager doesn't know Ricks job, and the company isn't going to hire an expert in said specialty to manage one guy. Even worse, sometimes, Rick IS the manager (over himself). But in other cases, the same manager might have a few dozen different hats he has to wear. I feel bad for these guys most times because they are basically herding cats all day and at the mercy of their employees, primarily the ones who don't want to work; and if that is the above mentioned Rick, there are serious problems for the company.
So yea, it can go both ways I think. Most of the issues that arise can be solved by the company itself, but in small and mid business, the margins aren't always there for them to be able to do that.
Anyway, my 2 cents worth.

[Texasgal]

79. For your information:

We already have productivity report measures in place. most agencies do. Our productivity is monitored constantly and is brought up via point system during review times or if it's noticed that you are lacking somewhere in the point system.

I think you are missing the entire point of this OP. And perhaps the anger and disillusionment of federal employees as a whole.

The issue that is demeaning and depressing is the fact that we have some idiot that is not even a federal employee judging our work week. He is not our boss, our director or even part of HR! We should not be forced to answer to this fool and his gang of 20-year-olds that have no idea how hard we actually DO work.

[ForgedCrank]

80. No, I

didn't miss the point of the OP.
The Dept of VA falls under the executive branch. Whether we like it or not, the "CEO" is now Trump, and whoever he appoints is in charge. It might suck, but that's what it is. We can pretend to not accept it, but that only serves to work against us, not them.
I'm more reality based, so I'm holding out to see what actually happens as a result of this. If the worst is him asking what people did last week, then I think this is all just noise. It is not unusual to be asked to prove your worth in an organization, I have to do it every week and have for nearly 2 decades. I also don't think anyone believes Elon Musk is going to read hundreds of thousands of emails and analyze them, and neither are the couple dozen data analysts he has running queries. And even though we don't like it, HR now works for Trump as well. Does it suck? Yes, it certainly does, but that is what we have here.
We have to get out of this thinking that Trump is stupid. It might be funny to gag around, but he's not stupid. He's not going to destroy the VA, it would be suicide for him and any hopes he has of the legacy he is clawing for.

[soldierant]

83. I cannot argue with that.

He's not even part of the government - he's an "advisor." And I could use a lot more profane descriptive words than you did about him.

[soldierant]

75. If one can't keep track of what one's workers are supposed to be doing

in at least enough detail that one knows what kind of results to expect and be able to see from the results what is getting done and who is doing it, I don't consider that a competent manager.

And if the department is so big that no one human could do that, then the department is too big - it needs to be divided into smaller groups, each with it's own manager, and the overall manager needs to get that information from the junior managers.

If you thought I meant you, not your bosses, I apologize. That was not what I meant at all. I meant up the chain where managers need to have workers to tell them every week what they do. As a manager, I preferred to have workers working, not collecting statistics. (And when I was a worker - we all start somewhere - I preferred working to keeping a diary on what I was doing. Collecting the information would have taken time away from work and made me less effective)

[RobinA]

82. I Know Exactly

what you mean. I generally don't hang around employers that want me to spend much time listing what I do every step of the way. I've been a manager, I've been a nonmanager, and as a manager if I didn't know what my people were doing I would be embarrassed. Thankfully, I am about to retire. The workplace since I started working in 1980, at several different careers, has become truly onerous. I was planning to make it to 70, but I'm going at 67.5 for reasons of sanity. If I don't get out of this environment, the steps I have to take to put myself in it day after day are going to caise me problems.

I thank God I am in a position and age to retire and get out of employment. It's horrible. When I read what is being done to the Federal workforce I want to vomit.

[msongs]

5. one - I honored my oath to the US constitution

[IbogaProject]

38. Nope not numbered

They must be five items on a bullet point list. What clowns musk and his crew are.

[UpInArms]

6. I am so sorry

[Skittles]

7. degrading

to be given ANY orders by these fascist fucks

[Scrivener7]

8. What Elon Musk does in a lifetime will never be as important as what you do in one week.

You help people. You make things better. You are too significant to let yourself feel demeaned by that ridiculous nepo slug.

You had to do it so you can continue to help people. There is no better reason. Let it roll right off you.

[sinkingfeeling]

9. My sympathies.

[Wonder Why]

10. Every time I talk to or Secure Message a VA employee in my area, I now add a special thanks.

I wish them the best. I will continue to do it until Mumps is gone.

[BOSSHOG]

11. You are heroic Texasgal

I’m an Old Vet and I Love You from afar.

[Texasgal]

15. Thank you for your service Boss.

The only saving grace in this crazy situation is that our Vets truly value us. Over the last several weeks, I have had many that have said " thank you for caring for us" ... that's what keeps me going.

Thank you for your kind message.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

43. As a social worker, I thank you for being there for people who need help.

I’m glad that they have someone good like you helping them. If this starts to interfere with your own mental health, however, you may have to leave. I had to quit a job that I used to love because I seriously thought I was going to lose it or become addicted. I was popping Valium dailyfor a month to stay sane.

[spooky3]

12. Here's my list for you

1) I helped 40 veterans obtain and receive health care
2) I helped another 40 veterans obtain and receive health care
3) I helped another 40 veterans obtain and receive health care
4) I helped another 40 veterans obtain and receive health care
5) I helped another 40 veterans obtain and receive health care

[OhioBack2Blue]

19. Exactly this.

The Secret Service told people to write something like:
I did 100% of my tasks, with 100% effort, 100% of the day.

Why are people complying with real answers? I don't get it. They will fire people no matter the reason, including making something up. I also thought i read that judge issued a stop order on this activity yesterday or the day before.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

46. Omg! You have the Secret Service helping you? Or do you work for them?

[Skittles]

30. here is my list

1) FUCK YOU
2) FUCK YOU
3) FUCK YOU
4) FUCK YOU
5) FUCK YOU

....... yes INDEED

[spooky3]

32. Hee hee hee

[canetoad]

42. Made me LOL

You should learn to say what you really think.

[peacebuzzard]

57. Couldn't have said it better

They don’t read emails anyway it gets screened by bots for doecific expressions and words lol Thos qualifies for 0 satisfactory. Lol

[AllaN01Bear]

13. what did u do the last week mr . musk?

five pointed

double spaced

punctuation will be corrected .
this is stupid. treating us like 5 year olds .

[dchill]

22. "Nazi salute" doesn't take up much space on the page. Or time.

[Hassler]

14. Saw online someone used the McCartney lyrics

In "A Day in the Life" for a five things list. Hope you get past all this.

[mcar]

62. Someone else used the 9 to 5 theme somg

[ShazzieB]

63. That's brilliant!

I'm imagining it now...

1. Woke up, fell out of bed
2. Dragged a comb across my head
3. Found my way downstairs and drank a cup


And so on and so forth...

[COL Mustard]

16. Hang in there!

My agency, somewhat surprisingly, told us not to respond to an unverified and unencrypted email.

I guess either they really have our backs or we'll all be out tomorrow!

[Squaredeal]

17. Will any of the Veteran Organizations say anything?

Or are their weak-kneed members still much too much up their dear leader’s a$$, at least until they come to the realization that their own goose is being cooked too?

[Greywing]

18. My daughter was forced to do same

Also VA …

[Scrivener7]

23. What the fuck does that mean?

[DoBW]

21. I like your profile pic

it's a good one

[pansypoo53219]

24. why does it feel like east germany?

[TheBlackAdder]

25. Screen print that so they don't claim you've never sent it. Set return receipt on.

[Biglinda 52]

60. Also...

Send it as a .pdf so nothing can be changed

[Crunchy Frog]

26. I'm sorry you had to go through that.

I hope we can eventually see King Ketamine in prison.

[drmeow]

27. If it makes you feel any better at all

I have to provide my supervisor with a weekly bulleted list of what I did the previous week - every. single. week! I have a PhD and 20+ years of experience.

Of course, I'm not being threatened with the loss of my job - although if they actually cut the indirect rate to 15% and my university can't make up the difference, it is not impossible that I will end up losing my job - just not because of a psychopathic rapist and his team of adolescent incel insufferable suppositories!

[Martin68]

31. It is often common practice for a supervisor to require an accounting of tasks and hours. Musk does not have the

authority to demand such an accounting without going through the proper channels. The request should be ignored.

[regnaD kciN]

28. Don't feel bad - I did the same...

…and I’m not even a federal employee.

[Martin68]

29. Better to have ignored the email. Musk had no legal authority to send it.

[carpetbagger]

73. Our agency (VA) was instructed to respond.

What pissed me off was that they sent out an emergency message on the call cascade to respond.

[Martin68]

81. Sounds like a total FUBAR.

[carpetbagger]

84. Yup

My section has 10 people. All exempted from the deferred resignation and probationary firings. We (they, I'm retiring) will be down to 7 in 60 days and possibly 3 or 4 by year's end.

[3825-87867]

33. Like grade school with an assinine teacher...

In one paragraph tell us:
"And what did you do on your summer vacation, little Jimmy?"

[LogDog75]

34. A lot of the obs people in government are repeatative

How many ways can you say you processed X number of requests, interacted with X number of people/customers, attended X number of meetings, entered data into computer system, and file X number of files?

Musk doesn't need to know what every government employee does; that's why you have directors, managers, and supervisors.

[MLAA]

35. Sending you hugs and thanks for all you do. I don't need a list to know you make a difference in the lives of Veterans

every single day.

[Cheezoholic]

36. I worked for a couple of large corporations that did this shit. Once I got into corporate world I was told not uncommon

Corporate world offered easily 30-35% more than I was making at smaller companies (IT server and network admin) but I did NOT like it AT all. 2 of the 3 big corporations I worked for required either weekly or bi-monthly work reports of what I did. One of them you would get fired if you turned them in 24 hours too late 2 times in a year. It literally took an hour a day to fill out their stupid paperwork. It's all about analytics anymore, which I think is BS. I'm so sorry to hear you having to go through this.

[Nulock]

37. Be nice if everyone in the firing line could react like this vid.

Obviously it's not that easy. Daily financial survival overrides fuck off asshole. Can't fault workers for that either. Bosses and owners like Trump and Musk and a lot more get some kind of perverted jolt from humiliating and demeaning workers. They're lowlife assholes. Don't let them break you either way. It's always my hope that someday we get our act together as a class and change that. Doesn't hurt to dream.

[mahina]

39. Thank you for serving our veterans.

[Abolishinist]

41. Have you ever tried the gluten free?

It's our favorite crust!

[sheshe2]

45. Lol

[GP6971]

44. You plan on being a long term member? With a post like that I wouldn't.

[Tactical Peek]

47. From the Colbert show tonight:

Since Musk will use AI to screen the input, use some keywords:

[RainCaster]

48. I sent one in for you, too

Mine may have been more cynical.

[Meowmee]

49. That sucks!

Thank you for everything you do to help people 🤗 Unlike those psycho pos.

[HeartsCanHope]

50. So sorry you and your collegues were shown such disrespect.

Thank you for all you do for our veterans!

[rampartd]

51. helping 40 veterans a day is a good week's work.

answering stupid questions like that should be worth a bonus.

[Jilly_in_VA]

52. We need

to send the orange slime and especially our congresscritters (MOST especially if they are MAGAts like mine is) the same demand. After all, they work for US!

I saw a meme yesterday in a similar vein which said something to the event that the person had called their congresscritter's phone x number of times during working hours and it was not answered (or the voicemail box was full) They were very displeased by their employee's performance and expected them to do better in the future! "After all, you are MY employee!"

[MadLinguist]

53. So dispiriting

I hope leadership at your facility gave guidance and support. The director at my facility advised constructing very generic bullet points, and then went the extra mile of advising that everyone save PDFs their SF-50s, and latest performance evaluations. I thought it was great advice.

[bdamomma]

54. Did you try

to go here: https://www.afge.org/

[bdamomma]

55. On Tyranny

first lesson

?si=UAfN4E68-GIcruL3

[yardwork]

56. I am so sorry that you are being treated this way.

[Gore1FL]

58. I am fortunate to be near enough retirement that if I ever had to do this I could be an asshole about it. nt

[Diraven]

59. I want to see Musk's list for Tesla

Which justifies his $100 billion raise. I doubt he's even set foot there in the last 3 months at least.

[mdbl]

61. Musk is the typical dickhead boss

He uses demeaning language and condescending tactics to do what he calls managing unrealistic expectations for anyone. I worked for a few just like him. Just a jackass.

[E. Normus]

64. Everyone should simply

copy the official job description of their position and say I do this every week including last week, and if you need more details you should talk to my boss.

[Daleuhlmann]

65. "I Feel Your Pain," Texasgal!

This requirement is outrageous! Musk is not a. elected official, and therefore should have no say-so in firing anybody! The bews is reporting that a government decision siding with those who who has contradicted Musk and told federal employees that the following the order was voluntary, not mandatory. Then, when Trump had heard of the dispute, the senile, old fool jumped in and announced that mandatory compliance was a "great idea," and sided with his favorite"MuskRAT. "

[elocs]

67. It's too bad that Musk could not be forced to justify his life and his work

in 5 bullet points.

[nilram]

68. As if you don't already have reporting structures in place!

You've got a boss who keeps track of what you're doing and you don't need any more BS than that.

That's my rant. This annoys me so much. Thanks for doing what you're doing, and doing what you need to do to keep doing it. I get it.

[waterwatcher123]

70. I submitted my ideas and comments too (we are all federal employees now).

My five work highlights light for the week were derived from reading the 2025 Tesla 10K Report and 2024 Tesla Proxy Statement. I noticed the following key points in these reports:

1) Tesla supports Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) (Page 12)

"Tesla is committed to providing a workplace where employees feel respected, satisfied and appreciated. Our policies are designed to promote fairness and respect for everyone. We actively support the hiring, retention and advancement of exceptional talent, including but not limited to veterans, disabled veterans and individuals with disabilities. As of December 31, 2024, in the US, 2.3% of our employees are veterans or active-duty military personnel, 3.3% of our employees are identify as individuals with disabilities and 1.2% of our employees identify as veterans or active-duty military personnel with disabilities. Our military partnerships and development programs noted above help to directly and indirectly support these employees."

2) Tesla Considers Bitcoin an Asset Versus a Risk (Digital Assets, Net, Page 63)

“It is odd that Tesla references Bitcoin as an asset rather than a risk factor when a number of government agencies have referred to it as a giant ponzi scheme. It seems part of a stockholder's investment in Tesla is unknowingly an investment in crypto currency (see below).

"Goodwill and Other - Crypto Assets. We have ownership of and control over our digital assets and we may use third-party custodial services to secure it. The digital assets are initially recorded at cost and are subsequently remeasured on the consolidated balance sheet at fair value. Periods prior to January 1, 2024 include digital assets at cost, net of impairment losses incurred since their acquisition.

We determine and record the fair value of our digital assets in accordance with ASC 820, Fair Value Measurement (“ASC 820”), based on quoted prices on the active exchange(s) that we have determined is the principal market for such assets (Level I inputs). We determine the cost basis of our digital assets using the specific identification of each unit received. Realized and unrealized gains and losses are now recorded to Other income(expense), net in our consolidated statement of operations."

3) Unions are Threat and Risk to Tesla's Business (Page 24)

ITEM 1A. RISK FACTORS

"Our business may be adversely affected by any disruptions caused by union activities. It is not uncommon for employees of certain trades at companies such as ours to belong to a union, which can result in higher employee costs and increased risk of work stoppages. Moreover, regulations in some jurisdictions outside of the U.S. mandate employee participation in industrial collective bargaining agreements and work councils with certain consultation rights with respect to the relevant companies’ operations. Although we work diligently to provide the best possible work environment for our employees, they may still decide to join or seek recognition to form a labor union, or we may be required to become a union signatory. From time to time, labor unions have engaged in campaigns to organize certain of our operations, as part of which such unions have filed unfair labor practice charges against us with the National Labor Relations Board (the “NLRB”), and they may do so in the future. Any unfavorable ultimate outcome for Tesla may have a negative impact on the perception of Tesla’s treatment of our employees. Furthermore, we are directly or indirectly dependent upon companies with unionized work forces, such as suppliers and trucking and freight companies. Any work stoppages or strikes organized by such unions could delay the manufacture and sale of our products and may harm our business and operating results."

4) Tesla considers Elon Musk, CEO, to be Vitally Important Even Though He Only Devotes a Fraction of His Time to the Business (Page 20).

"We are highly dependent on the services of Elon Musk, Technoking of Tesla and our Chief Executive Officer. Although Mr. Musk spends significant time with Tesla and is highly active in our management, he does not devote his full time and attention to Tesla. For example: Mr. Musk also currently holds management positions at Space Exploration Technologies Corp., X Corp., X.AI Corp., Neuralink Corp. and The Boring Company, and is involved in other ventures and with the Department of Government Efficiency."

https://ir.tesla.com/_flysystem/s3/sec/000162828025003063/tsla-20241231-gen.pdf

5) Tesla 2024 Proxy Statement. Tesla's Board Recommended Against Every Shareholder Resolution That Focused on Social and Environmental Goals. This action is completely at odds with the statements of Tesla's propaganda and advice to shareholders.

Agenda Item Tesla Proposals Board Vote Recommendation

Stockholder Proposals:
9. A stockholder proposal regarding adoption of a
freedom of association and collective bargaining
policy, if properly presented (“Proposal Nine”).
“AGAINST”
10. A stockholder proposal regarding reporting on
effects and risks associated with electromagnetic
radiation and wireless technologies, if properly
presented (“Proposal Ten”).
“AGAINST”
11. A stockholder proposal regarding adopting targets
and reporting on metrics to assess the feasibility of
integrating sustainability metrics into senior
executive compensation plans, if properly
presented (“Proposal Eleven”).
“AGAINST”
12. A stockholder proposal regarding committing to a
moratorium on sourcing minerals from deep sea
mining, if properly presented (“Proposal Twelve”). “AGAINST

[blue_jay]

71. So sorry for this disgrace, you deserve better

I have never understood the mentality, even among people serving this country, that maligns and blames the "government" as some insane monster when it is mostly just another place where your neighbors work. In reality it is a tiny amount of most likely patriotic souls, (always some bad or slow eggs wherever you work) trying to do good for their fellow Americans. I know it was a political strategy started long ago but seriously targeting a small group that cannot easily defend itself is disgraceful.

Government employees represent less than 2% of the U.S. workforce.

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-work-for-the-federal-government/

[mimitabby]

74. Lots of us did it too

I hope that helps

[Klarkashton]

76. I had to work for a clown that made me meet everyday

To review my work.

He eventually had a heart attack and had to quit.

After that no more meetings.

[Heftylefty]

85. Forced today

Next time, redact your list, ie "1. Met with -----today at ----- to discuss ----- and implement Plan -----." then explain that your work is covered by HIPAA, is sensitive or classified, and you cannot, by federal law, reveal certain aspects.