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DFW

(58,518 posts)
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 08:58 AM Mar 2025

With a Ukrainian friend today--why Trump and Putin will never "get it" with them

He and I met at a work event in the Ruhr area today, and he said he was leaving early because his young son was having a birthday party this evening in Warsaw, where he lives. There was no convenient direct flight out of here (Düsseldorf airport), so he had a connection through Amsterdam, and then on to Warsaw. He had 90 minutes to make the plane, and the airport was only a 35 minute drive. I live near the airport, and he was looking at a €100 taxi ride, so I offered him a lift to the airport.

Things were looking good until all three lanes on the Autibahn came to a standstill. Poice had set up a barrier halting all traffic. A helicopter appeared, landed on the Autobahn in front of us, and a few ambulances wiggled their way through the traffic to get to the scene of what turned out to be a nasty seven car pile-up.

So, we waited and waited, a frustrating 17 minutes from the airport, but with no way to get there. Finally, the helicopter and ambulances left with whatever victims of the crash they thought they could save, and traffic started flowing again. Being the Autobahn, after all, I abandoned my American driver ed, and drove like a German the rest of the way to the airport. He was frantically checking with KLM to see if by any chance the commuter flight over to Amsterdam was late. It was, but only by seven minutes. As I pulled up to close to the terminal, he grabbed his things and said he'll make a run for it, maybe the security guys would have pity on him. "Not likely," we both agreed, but he said that if he failed to get his plane, so be it, but he would never forgive himself if he didn't try, no matter how hopeless it looked. There were a few cars stopped in front of the last turn-in to the B terminal. He said, "seconds count!" jumped out of my car, grabbed his stuff, and made a mad dash into the Terminal.

Neither of us had much hope, but he was right--not trying is far worse than clinging to a weak hope.

About twelve minutes after he ran from my car, my phone rang. The plane's delay had increased by 2 minutes from seven to nine, and it was just the extra margin he needed. They were just about to close the plane's door when they saw him running toward the gate. The plane's door had already closed by the time he sat down. He called me, out of breath, and just before being told to turn off his phone, but at least he was calling me from his seat in his plane. His son in Warsaw will have Papa at the birthday party after all. He had wanted me to know it, too, since there are few things in this world that could ever induce me to drive like a German--even in Germany.

If either Trump or Putin could clone themselves ten times, and then confront a guy like this, they would still be outnumbered. These people do not give up easily.

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With a Ukrainian friend today--why Trump and Putin will never "get it" with them (Original Post) DFW Mar 2025 OP
True Laurelin Mar 2025 #1
It's scary what can become of people if their "Dark Side" is allowed to take over. DFW Mar 2025 #9
Great story. Enjoy the little successes. cachukis Mar 2025 #2
Got that right DFW Mar 2025 #6
Thank you for showing him true American kindness and generosity. Aristus Mar 2025 #3
If there was ever a time for traveling ambassadors, Prairie_Seagull Mar 2025 #5
How's this for irony? DFW Mar 2025 #10
He knows us and likes us as a people DFW Mar 2025 #7
What a great story, my dear DFW! Thank you. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2025 #4
He was VERY relieved. DFW Mar 2025 #8
Birthdays and children Laurelin Mar 2025 #11

Laurelin

(733 posts)
1. True
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 09:25 AM
Mar 2025

One of my daughter's ballet teachers came from Ukraine. There's no way I would ever pick a fight with her.

I'm a cream puff, wimpy, spoiled, cowardly, old American pacifist, and I'm ready to fight the Russians to the death if necessary. I have lots of friends and relatives from the old east Germany and I will never, under any circumstances, live under Russian rule. I'm with Solzhenitsyn on this. Better to die fighting than go to the gulag. I saw what the Russians did in Bucha, among many atrocities. I guess I'm not a pacifist any more.

Glad your friend made his flight.

DFW

(58,518 posts)
9. It's scary what can become of people if their "Dark Side" is allowed to take over.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 01:06 PM
Mar 2025

I've had Russian friends of the cream puff variety, but they are few.The older ones, the ones that grew up under socialism, grew up where it was common knowledge that the system was only for the rule makers, and the common person only got ahead to the degree that they could outfox the system. My son-in-law was born in Russia, and if you talk to him, he seems like the cream puff variety, but he saw his father murdered by Putin's "business partners" and moved with him mom to Islrael when he was 9 years old. He served in the Israeli military, and at age 40 has a body like a 19 year old Olympic gymnast (his mom was a Soviet Olympic athlete).

Aristus

(70,426 posts)
3. Thank you for showing him true American kindness and generosity.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 10:22 AM
Mar 2025

I wouldn’t be too surprised to learn that the American character has taken quite a beating in Europe over the last ten years or so.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,286 posts)
5. If there was ever a time for traveling ambassadors,
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 12:06 PM
Mar 2025

It is now. Ambassador DFW, very well done sir.

DFW

(58,518 posts)
10. How's this for irony?
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 01:09 PM
Mar 2025

In early 2016, I was asked by a DNC member if I would be interested in being US anbassador to Germany.

After the eletion, THAT one sure died on the vine!

DFW

(58,518 posts)
7. He knows us and likes us as a people
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 12:15 PM
Mar 2025

His English is very good, even knows when to use "a" and "the" and when not to--very difficult to learn for native speakers of Slavic languages, which don't have articles.

He has lived in Poland for years now, has a Polish residence permit and owns an EU business, for which he travels frequently to the USA. He likes us just fine as a nation, has a hard time trying to figure out how we could possibly allow and watch this clown slip back into the Oval Office when it was so obvious what an awful move it would be for the country.

CaliforniaPeggy

(154,551 posts)
4. What a great story, my dear DFW! Thank you.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 12:00 PM
Mar 2025

It's really encouraging to know that people like your friend live and thrive under these circumstances.

So glad he made his flight.

DFW

(58,518 posts)
8. He was VERY relieved.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 12:18 PM
Mar 2025

His young boy was counting on "Papa" being there in time, and would have been very disappointed if he didn't show.

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