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I got a new laptop with Windows 8 (Original Post) Aerows Dec 2012 OP
Windows 7! Panasonic Dec 2012 #1
I have enough versions of Windows 7 Aerows Dec 2012 #3
Does it suck like vista? RetroGamer1971 Dec 2012 #27
The first time I sat in front of a windows 8 machine... Ohio Joe Dec 2012 #2
It isn't nearly as bad as Windows Millineum. Aerows Dec 2012 #4
heh, yeah, no where near that level of bad Ohio Joe Dec 2012 #10
Win 7 pro64, I'll give you a key when you tire of playing with a kids toy DainBramaged Dec 2012 #5
I'm serious - it's not that bad Aerows Dec 2012 #8
A Android tablet kicks ass too DainBramaged Dec 2012 #9
I have an Android phone Aerows Dec 2012 #12
WAN makes me think of GOD. n/t littlemissmartypants Dec 2012 #35
+1 I just can't figure out what to do with the second lvl XP machine as so far..... wandy Dec 2012 #15
Windows 7 64-bit kicks ass Aerows Dec 2012 #18
I don't have a Windows 8 machine, but I got to play with a couple briefly. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #6
What kind of laptop? BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #7
I need a small, easy to carry laptop Aerows Dec 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author blueclown Dec 2012 #13
Well that was friendly Aerows Dec 2012 #14
Grumpy seems to be the mood du jour! NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #21
Yep, Apple started peddling to the public schools littlemissmartypants Dec 2012 #23
Increasingly, it seems not to matter which platform we choose, it's all in the Cloud now! NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #25
I have a Mac retro fitted as a SGD which speaks spanish and englais ... littlemissmartypants Dec 2012 #34
Seems like a discussion of a general nature theKed Dec 2012 #16
Thank you Aerows Dec 2012 #17
For the record, theKed Dec 2012 #31
I still run Vista high density Dec 2012 #19
Windows 8 is a good OS. Most people just don't enjoy feeling like beginners again. Xithras Dec 2012 #20
It's not 'that bad' but its entirely pointless. RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #22
I checked out 8 at a store on one of their computers and didn't see what the fuss was LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #24
Mine had Windows 8 for however long it took to download an Ubuntu CD (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #26
I'm sorry abelenkpe Dec 2012 #28
If you want your desktop to act like a start button. It cannot decide if it is a laptop or an iPad still_one Dec 2012 #29
Shut Down is as easy as it ever was MattBaggins Dec 2012 #33
It isn't me you need to convince it is regular users, and based on the still_one Dec 2012 #37
Yeah. We bought a new desktop (Dell). bvar22 Dec 2012 #30
Soon the Apple Lovers Or Gates Haters will be telling you you are stupid! Logical Dec 2012 #32
Gates didn't do this piece of garbage. Ever since he left the company has been going still_one Dec 2012 #38
Aerows this is a delightfully civil and littlemissmartypants Dec 2012 #36
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
3. I have enough versions of Windows 7
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:17 PM
Dec 2012

that can fill a 32GB micro SD card. I was prepared to hate on Windows 8 and wipe the drive, but I kind of like it. Or, let me put it this way - I don't hate it as much as I was ready to. LOL.

RetroGamer1971

(177 posts)
27. Does it suck like vista?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:37 PM
Dec 2012

Vista had all of the driver problems. I was at my in laws twice a week to fix them when it came out. Any driver problems so far?

Ohio Joe

(21,761 posts)
2. The first time I sat in front of a windows 8 machine...
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:15 PM
Dec 2012

It took me ten minutes to figure out how to shut it down... I damn near just hit the power button.

Ohio Joe

(21,761 posts)
10. heh, yeah, no where near that level of bad
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:25 PM
Dec 2012

It's ok once you get used to where stuff is... I think their biggest problem is there is no real reason for anyone to switch to it unless it happens to be the OS on a machine you buy.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
8. I'm serious - it's not that bad
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:22 PM
Dec 2012

I don't hate it as much as I thought I would. I had an emergency, though, because I broke the screen on my much beloved laptop. This one kicks ass, though, for what I need it to do. And it has WAN!

DainBramaged

(39,191 posts)
9. A Android tablet kicks ass too
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:24 PM
Dec 2012

Windows 8 is the toy and will have a life expectancy as short as Millennium. Corporate America has already told Microsoft to go fuck themselves.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
12. I have an Android phone
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:27 PM
Dec 2012

and I *adore* it. I needed a laptop though, because I broke the screen on my little portable one.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
15. +1 I just can't figure out what to do with the second lvl XP machine as so far.....
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:35 PM
Dec 2012

Win 7 has handled everything I've thrown at it. That all but includes the kitchen sink.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. Windows 7 64-bit kicks ass
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:42 PM
Dec 2012

and is my choice of an OS for gaming. UNIX is my server choice. I'm just saying that Windows 8 isn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
6. I don't have a Windows 8 machine, but I got to play with a couple briefly.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:19 PM
Dec 2012

Windows 8 makes a lot of use of Fitts's Law. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitts's_law ) which states that for human interfaces, it's easier to push buttons that are either large, or close to the hand's current position, or especially both.

When in doubt, fiddle with the edges or the corners of the screen (either with the mouse or with a touch-screen.

A lot of the hidden stuff is designed to be activated by fat-fingering the edge or corner, or by throwing the mouse cursor to the edge and corner (classic example: the Start Menu in earlier versions of Windows.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
11. I need a small, easy to carry laptop
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:26 PM
Dec 2012

But it also has to have some juice. I picked up an HP Pavilion DM1-4310nr. It has a dual core processor, good graphics, and is tiny enough to carry in a messenger bag. It meets my needs when I'm away from my big box, which has dual graphics in SLI mode, and a quad core overclocked to hell and back.

Response to Aerows (Original post)

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
14. Well that was friendly
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:33 PM
Dec 2012

If you are a host, kick it. Oh wait, you aren't, you are just being grumpy.

I don't know what is going on here anymore that you can't even freaking discuss a new Operating System without someone have a gripe about it.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
21. Grumpy seems to be the mood du jour!
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:44 PM
Dec 2012

Work and school is so mac-mad, that's mostly what I use.

It's been so long that my most recent PC is running XP Pro.

Still works!

littlemissmartypants

(22,807 posts)
23. Yep, Apple started peddling to the public schools
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:14 PM
Dec 2012

in the eighties. I had lots of fun back then playing with the e and the kids. I'll try any os just to learn and have fun. That's why I love it here.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
25. Increasingly, it seems not to matter which platform we choose, it's all in the Cloud now!
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:24 PM
Dec 2012

Which is really really good for productivity. PCs and Macs can get along!

I just read today that PC magazine gave the 2012 iMac an "Editors Choice" award!

littlemissmartypants

(22,807 posts)
34. I have a Mac retro fitted as a SGD which speaks spanish and englais ...
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:58 PM
Dec 2012

Android Electrify phone, which I love, the ThinkPad with Win 7, PC with XP Prof., Acer with Vista...taught myself spread sheet on the Ap. 2c, which had a speech synthesizer, way back when and just got a Kindle Fire HD. When Palms were hot I fell asleep with a PDA every night for a month. iPod Touch Nano is next... girl geek who plays at being a gamer, that is I. I am all over building new neuronal connections. Plasticity rocks. PC Mag is a go to for me as well. I love clouds... of all types. Watching the floaty sky ones from a blanket, my favorite pastime.



LMSP
Sorry so telegraphic... lazy tired right now.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
17. Thank you
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:39 PM
Dec 2012

I thought it was a general discussion of an OS. There are some folks around here that want to complain about everything, it seems.

theKed

(1,235 posts)
31. For the record,
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:29 PM
Dec 2012

I'm using windows 8 and don't mind it a bit. In a lot of ways it's very much the same as 7, with some added bells and whistles.

high density

(13,397 posts)
19. I still run Vista
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:42 PM
Dec 2012

It's not bad, either. I will build a new computer in a few months and put 8 on it. I've used Server 2012 at work which has the same UI as 8. It's a bit annoying to start out, but once you get your common programs pinned to the taskbar, it gets a lot more usable. I will probably install one of those apps that restores the start menu though.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
20. Windows 8 is a good OS. Most people just don't enjoy feeling like beginners again.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 08:44 PM
Dec 2012

In order to use it, you first have to "un-learn" a lot of the old Windows behaviors that have been thrown out.

Personally, I think Microsoft's biggest mistake was in calling it Windows. They should have just stuck with the Metro name, since it's a completely new product with a new navigation system. By calling it Windows, they have saddled it with the expectation that it will behave like previous versions of Windows, and with all of the biases that existed against previous versions of Windows.

In my experiences so far, most Windows 8 users like it after they spend 30 minutes or so noodling out where everything is.

I know some people don't like the touch-style interface, but that's the direction most OS's are going nowadays. Even Linux has gone in this direction since the introduction of Gnome3 and Ubuntu Unity. About the only OS resisting the move at this point is OSX, and it's considered to be a horribly outdated by most developers. Apple has slapped on new "features" over the years, the underlying core OS has been largely unchanged for nearly 12 years...an eternity in the tech world. Jobs initially said that OSX would be their core platform for 15 years, so it's widely suspected that they're already planning it's successor internally, and that it will probably be some sort of OSX/iOS crossover . At that point, most computer users will be forced to adapt to this style of computing, whether they like it or not. This is simply the way computers are going to work for now on.

LiberalFighter

(51,094 posts)
24. I checked out 8 at a store on one of their computers and didn't see what the fuss was
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:20 PM
Dec 2012

Had no complaints. So when I need to I won't be upset about having it.

still_one

(92,408 posts)
29. If you want your desktop to act like a start button. It cannot decide if it is a laptop or an iPad
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:48 PM
Dec 2012

Device

Bring up explorer under charms, how do you quit the application? Task manager, otherwise it stays up, same with other applications, occupying resources you may not need

If you are in desktop there is no start button so you cannoth directly quit windows from desktop

I can go on, but the interface will piss more users off than make them happy

Incidentally, I am a programmer so I adapt to anything, but there is no way I am installing windows 8 on my wofe's machine

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
33. Shut Down is as easy as it ever was
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:52 PM
Dec 2012

alt+f4 from the desktop
win+d brings desktop from anywhere (flip back and forth from start menu to desktop)

create a shortcut "shutdown /s /t 0"

why is clicking trough layers of truncate menus better than hitting the windows key and just start typing what you want. (Yes try this in win8. Hit the windows key and just start typing something you want... An application, file, video, picture

short cut key strokes have been the best way to use windows since 3.X

still_one

(92,408 posts)
37. It isn't me you need to convince it is regular users, and based on the
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:20 AM
Dec 2012

Current consensus they are none too happy

They essentially wrote a GUI wrapper on top of windows 7

Without knowing the security layout you cannot even directly save a file to the c drive even as an administrator.

Far as I am concerned it buys nothing but useless overhead for for laptops and desktops

iPad devices fine, but there is a reason msft is down, and it isn't because people are banging down the doors to get it or the overpriced surface, ms phones

Microsoft needs to bring gates back

This is is made for an iPad device not a laptop

Business are not going to rush to install it



bvar22

(39,909 posts)
30. Yeah. We bought a new desktop (Dell).
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:06 PM
Dec 2012

In the past, I had always assembled my own cutting edge gamer boxes.
and was still using one I built in 2005 with the old reliable version of WinXP.
I looked dwon my nose at those poor souls who bought "packages"
and never passed up the chance to gloat when my Home Builts blew the doors off of their expensive Store Boughts.

I recently decided that I wanted to begin editing HD Video,
and realized that my old reliable XP Box from 2005 didn't have the horsepower or storage I needed. I checked the prices for motherboards, chips, graphics cards, and storage,
and realized I could BUY a complete Hi-Perf package for less than 1/2 what it would cost me to upgrade or build a new box,
so I just bought a Dell.
It came with Win8Pro.

I cursed for a couple of days trying to find my way around,
but now....its not so bad.

The biggest problem was getting the Win 8 machine to play nice on our home LAN. It wouldn't,
but upgrading the old XP machines to Win 7 solved that problem.
Now, everything is peachy,
and I kinda like Win 8.

I occasionally miss the old days when I had the hood open every couple of weeks fiddling with the innards,
or stood in line at midnight to get the latest OS or game,
but the boxes today are so powerful and so fast that it really doesn't make any difference anymore. I would be afraid to open the new Dell we just got.
(My first computer was an 8088, 40 meg Hard Drive, NO ram,
and used a dial up modem to access the BBS)


still_one

(92,408 posts)
38. Gates didn't do this piece of garbage. Ever since he left the company has been going
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:22 AM
Dec 2012

Down hill

They need to bring gates. Back

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