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SSJVegeta

(1,153 posts)
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 03:39 PM Mar 2025

AOC For President 2028

She's on FIRE!!!!!

LIVE in Tucson
https://www.youtube.com/live/2novTivLL84?si=-l6IfhEocj05GKbI


Should AOC run for President?


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Yes
64 (32%)
No
129 (64%)
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AOC For President 2028 (Original Post) SSJVegeta Mar 2025 OP
Too soon. She's young and needs to win at least RubyRose Mar 2025 #1
I disagree. I think the main qualification for electability is whether they get elected SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #10
"We also have had a handful of presidents who have been elected never having held statewide offices". Ars Longa Mar 2025 #74
. ...HW, Ford, Eisenhower, Arthur, Garfield, Grant, AND wait for it... SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #76
Why in the world does she need to do that? NoRethugFriends Mar 2025 #54
💯 SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #89
Not yet. displacedvermoter Mar 2025 #2
I love AOC. She's gonna dare the shit outta many west of the Hudson. CincyDem Mar 2025 #3
Yes Yes snd Yes Tribetime Mar 2025 #4
Too soon. She should be Speaker of the House or Minority Leader first. Celerity Mar 2025 #5
Those roles would be wasted on her as shes way too charismatic SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #14
Absolutely not! bif Mar 2025 #6
I disagree serbbral Mar 2025 #81
I'm saying yes but we'll see mvd Mar 2025 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Mar 2025 #11
Problematic Chasstev365 Mar 2025 #8
You raise an H2O Man Mar 2025 #30
That's not why Trump won leftstreet Mar 2025 #49
And why didn't they show up? serbbral Mar 2025 #85
Sadly, I agree with you. There is a reason why there has never been a woman president and it is not because there skylucy Mar 2025 #88
I agree completely. I have voted every chance I got for a woman for president. If we nominate a woman , we will lose Walleye Mar 2025 #102
Yes. We need to resist Trump&Thugs with a strong opponent. Politics As Usual is over. Ping Tung Mar 2025 #9
Absolutely! red dog 1 Mar 2025 #12
Love her! zappaman Mar 2025 #13
Believe it or not, she has incredible crossover appeal with her message SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #15
She also needs to expand her profile and increase her creds. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #34
" She also needs to expand her profile and increase her creds." What in the world does that mean? NoRethugFriends Mar 2025 #55
Expand her profile: become well versed in a variety of topics. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #75
You are making a hell of a lot of judgements about her current capabilities without any justification. NoRethugFriends Mar 2025 #84
I am calling it like I see it. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #86
Biden and Harris and every Dem ever is painted a radical leftist. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2025 #48
I love AOC Bettie Mar 2025 #16
She needs to prove that she can win outside of her safe district PBC_Democrat Mar 2025 #17
It isn't too soon for her - but it's way too soon for the country. soldierant Mar 2025 #18
You and me both, and I'm getting closer to your age every year... Hekate Mar 2025 #26
I'll guess... MorbidButterflyTat Mar 2025 #66
It's probably a strategy soldierant Mar 2025 #72
Yup. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #35
Its never too soon SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #50
Absolutely not! What value she does have is best used in Congress. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #19
Over 15,000 came out to see her in a swing state AZProgressive Mar 2025 #21
Self-selecting crowds. Bernie had crowds like that in the past, but he still failed to secure the party's nomination. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #22
The crowds Bernie is drawing are larger than the crowds he drew when he actually ran for President AZProgressive Mar 2025 #23
I have no way to confirm if that's true. Unless he's running again, I do not see the relevance of that comparison. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #24
There was one point where Bernie Sanders was favored to win all 50 states AZProgressive Mar 2025 #29
No he wasn't. The early caucus states were advantageous. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #33
California was split because the businessman Bloomberg Nixie Mar 2025 #42
Exactly. We need to play to peoples' strengths. yellow dahlia Mar 2025 #37
A good next step would be to run for and win a Congressional Democratic Caucus-wide secret ballot vote lapucelle Mar 2025 #43
A very reasonable reply, indeed. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #44
that in fact is the logical first step and that will inevitably happen. The same thing goes for Jasmine Crockett yellowdogintexas Mar 2025 #59
Hell no, show she can win a state wide race first ...BIR NO DOUBT she should be DNC face person uponit7771 Mar 2025 #20
That would ForgedCrank Mar 2025 #25
No thank you LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #27
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2025 #28
2028 is too soon. LoisB Mar 2025 #31
Yes. I think 2028 pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #32
Nope, unfortunately, in this country, we can't get a woman Meadowoak Mar 2025 #36
That's the way I see it, too calguy Mar 2025 #80
A man Bluestocking Mar 2025 #106
Many hats in the ring in primary season TheProle Mar 2025 #38
She will make every other candidate better if she runs. Frasier Balzov Mar 2025 #39
No, but she should run for senate Renew Deal Mar 2025 #40
The GOP will have a field day with her. Xolodno Mar 2025 #41
Sounds like Chuck Schumer would be your perfect candidate. Emile Mar 2025 #62
Don't get me wrong. Xolodno Mar 2025 #65
I love her. She's going to be great for the Party. But 2028 isnt the right year for her. Nanjeanne Mar 2025 #45
I'd vote for her Rob H. Mar 2025 #46
It's a tough battle but a necessary one SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #47
What's truly sad and tragic J_William_Ryan Mar 2025 #51
nods DonCoquixote Mar 2025 #57
AOC Is Great Baron2024 Mar 2025 #52
She'll have the opportunity. Bonx Mar 2025 #53
The results are in. NoRethugFriends Mar 2025 #56
I love her, HOWEVER.... synni Mar 2025 #58
I voted Pass proud patriot Mar 2025 #60
Absolutely NO! nt Raine Mar 2025 #61
Im afraid not. The Third Doctor Mar 2025 #63
VP perhaps the_liberal_grandpa Mar 2025 #64
No thanks. nt LexVegas Mar 2025 #67
repeat after me, everyone on DU. WHITE , MALE , CHRISTIAN, STRAIGHT. dsp3000 Mar 2025 #68
I mean. Not EVERYone SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #69
Like Biden in 2024 Kaleva Mar 2025 #92
No. Harris ran in 2024. SunSeeker Mar 2025 #94
Biden ran for much of it. Kaleva Mar 2025 #98
The primary ain't the general election. He was out before the convention. nt SunSeeker Mar 2025 #105
kick LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #70
In a fictional USA, but not his one right now. lindysalsagal Mar 2025 #71
I put yes to AOC for President, but, Ars Longa Mar 2025 #73
Same, after hearing her during the big rallies I think she can be a great president but she should win state level first uponit7771 Mar 2025 #77
Yep! Buttoneer Mar 2025 #78
Let her compete with other candidates when the time comes, and if she can beat them, why not? RoeVWade Mar 2025 #79
Concurred SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #90
No, but that's entirely due to the racist/misogynistic voters of this country and is no way a reflection on her. Xavier Breath Mar 2025 #82
Nope. madaboutharry Mar 2025 #83
Yep, call it the piss off centrists campaign. Emile Mar 2025 #87
No. We need to win. nt SunSeeker Mar 2025 #93
Yes, we need to win for a change. Emile Mar 2025 #95
No, I have the feeling she wants a life. betsuni Mar 2025 #96
If she can win the primaries, sure. In It to Win It Mar 2025 #97
Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #99
Remarkable feat. GP6971 Mar 2025 #100
She would make a wonderful President. Turbineguy Mar 2025 #101
We will not piddyprints Mar 2025 #103
I'll look at the terrain post mid-terms prior to making any judgement calls Torchlight Mar 2025 #104
Not in 2028, but someday krawhitham Mar 2025 #107
Voted yes because I love her - TBF May 15 #108

SSJVegeta

(1,153 posts)
10. I disagree. I think the main qualification for electability is whether they get elected
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 04:46 PM
Mar 2025

She can run and fail, but that doesn't mean she shouldn't run. She can also run and win -and for somebody with her character, values and integrity, definitely means she should have run.

All of preconceived understandings of how politics should be over th last 50 years has been turned on its head.

We also have had a handful of presidents who have been elected never having held statewide offices.

Ars Longa

(203 posts)
74. "We also have had a handful of presidents who have been elected never having held statewide offices".
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:14 PM
Mar 2025
"We also have had a handful of presidents who have been elected never having held statewide offices."

>Trump

Response to SSJVegeta (Reply #10)

CincyDem

(7,152 posts)
3. I love AOC. She's gonna dare the shit outta many west of the Hudson.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 03:46 PM
Mar 2025

I also love pelosi and I would like to see AOC become the most influential successful house speaker we’ve ever seen.

I love AOC but I worry she won’t garner a broad enough national coalition. I’d like to see her shift the post Trump nexus of power from the Oval to the speaker’s office. I think she could do that and change the country (for the better).

Tribetime

(6,732 posts)
4. Yes Yes snd Yes
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 03:59 PM
Mar 2025

We need a strong voice now more than ever. Someone that can go on Fox and kick their ass.

Celerity

(50,961 posts)
5. Too soon. She should be Speaker of the House or Minority Leader first.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 04:09 PM
Mar 2025

She would be far better in leading the fight against Trump than 'God Is Still On The Throne' Jeffries.

serbbral

(328 posts)
81. I disagree
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:58 PM
Mar 2025

Like the saying goes, never is such a long time. I don't think we will have a female President any time soon, not in my lifetime, but I would not say NEVER or EVER.

mvd

(65,704 posts)
7. I'm saying yes but we'll see
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 04:17 PM
Mar 2025

Perhaps she’ll run for Senator from NY first. Lot of time.

Response to mvd (Reply #7)

Chasstev365

(5,764 posts)
8. Problematic
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 04:20 PM
Mar 2025

I personally love the style and fearlessness of AOC. She has more guts than most male Democrats in Congress and her "radical leftness" would have be considered mainstream Democratic Party views in the 1960's.

However, the only reason Trump won in 2024 is due to racism and sexism. Harris ran a great campaign, but the media held get to a higher standard and people were willing to put the treasonous convicted rapist back in office over a minority woman.

Why would it be any different with AOC? In fact, she would be treated far worse than Harris.

H2O Man

(77,383 posts)
30. You raise an
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:13 PM
Mar 2025

important point per racism and sexism. But even if we run a white man, we will not get the votes of the racist and sexist shitheads.

I think the real question is if we run a candidate who appeals to independents (there are more of them than Democrats), or if for the third time since 2016, the campaign attempts to appeal to republicans (there are less of them than Democrats). I know some think bringing the pre-corpse of war criminal Dick Cheney was inspirational in the 2024 campaign. And still others think that AOC -- even more than Cheney -- could appeal to independents/ young voters.

leftstreet

(36,868 posts)
49. That's not why Trump won
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:51 PM
Mar 2025

He won because Harris lost

Harris lost because several million reliably Democratic voters failed to show up

Any Democratic candidate hoping to win will need POLICIES that draw those voters back

serbbral

(328 posts)
85. And why didn't they show up?
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:28 PM
Mar 2025

I think the reason why they didn't show up was because they did not want to vote for Trump, nor the democratic candidate because she was a woman AND a woman of color. I think so many do not want to admit that racism and sexism played a BIG part in the election. This is why I practically stopped watching the news, particularly, cable news after the election. I got so sick of everyone saying it was because of the economy, because in Trump's previous presidency, the economy was so good (which by the way was Obama's economy which Trump seems to have received the credit). If they were not saying that, it was the Democrats should have done this or should have done that or they did not do this enough or that enough. Many of us think it would not have mattered what the Dems would have done because many had already made up their minds once the candidate was chosen.

skylucy

(3,956 posts)
88. Sadly, I agree with you. There is a reason why there has never been a woman president and it is not because there
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 11:34 PM
Mar 2025

weren't smart, capable women who could do the job. I fervently hope that someday it will happen, but it won't be in 2028. The misogyny runs deep in our country, as does the racism.

Walleye

(41,466 posts)
102. I agree completely. I have voted every chance I got for a woman for president. If we nominate a woman , we will lose
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 11:19 AM
Mar 2025

zappaman

(20,625 posts)
13. Love her!
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 05:19 PM
Mar 2025

She's great but would lose if she got the nomination.
Sorry, but it's true.
She's been painted as a radical leftist and even worse, she's a *GASP* woman.
I'd like to see her run for Senate though. I have a feeling she could beat Schumer

SSJVegeta

(1,153 posts)
15. Believe it or not, she has incredible crossover appeal with her message
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 05:46 PM
Mar 2025

Polls indicated she had a ton of Trump voters vote for her in 2024. It was confusing to her, so she asked many why: the answer (more or less)? Those labels as a "radical leftist" haven't exactly stuck beyond a relatively small core group of extreme Trump loyalists.

https://newrepublic.com/post/188248/2024-election-voters-democrat-trump-aoc-split-ticket

yellow dahlia

(2,613 posts)
34. She also needs to expand her profile and increase her creds.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:44 PM
Mar 2025

Being a strong communicator is only one of the many skills needed in the repertoire of a president of any merit.

Right now the first priority is trying to save this Democracy, And then figure out how to have a fair and unrigged election. And then to run a candidate that can't be explained away by possible excuses for a loss...a true mandate.

And then we need to shore up the election system so the RepugliCONS can't gerry mander, voter purge, interfere, or rig again.

Right now - we need to play to everyone's strengths...not put people on a pedestal because they have charm or mystique. This is an all hands on deck moment. It requires levels of strategy that won't be easy.

NoRethugFriends

(3,433 posts)
55. " She also needs to expand her profile and increase her creds." What in the world does that mean?
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 01:15 AM
Mar 2025

yellow dahlia

(2,613 posts)
75. Expand her profile: become well versed in a variety of topics.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:19 PM
Mar 2025

Last edited Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:55 PM - Edit history (2)

Increase her credentials = get experience in things she needs to learn more about.

Here are a few examples:

Chair some committees.

Serve on more committees and expand her knowledge, about things she is unfamiliar with such as foreign affairs.

Spend more time in Congress.

Get some executive experience.

Prove herself through solving problems, not just being a good communicator.

She has a lane right now, and she is good at it. That does not mean she can hold her own with complicated matters of state. We have had plenty of presidents who were lacking in this area - we don't need any more, right now.

Right now, we need to save our Democracy, and I believe she has the energy and presence to be a great messenger in that effort. If we have a (close to) free and fair election in 2028, the Dems cannot take any chances - they need to run a shoe-in. It has the be an obvious mandate, or it is easier to "steal".


NoRethugFriends

(3,433 posts)
84. You are making a hell of a lot of judgements about her current capabilities without any justification.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:20 PM
Mar 2025

yellow dahlia

(2,613 posts)
86. I am calling it like I see it.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 11:04 PM
Mar 2025

AOC has never chaired a committee.

She has never been Governor, or held any position of executive power.

She has no foreign relations experience. It has been a short-coming of other previous presidents and we (and others) have paid a price. Eg: Crimea

Just because AOC is a good communicator, does not automatically mean she has other completely different skill sets, grown of completely different experiences.

I repeat myself - "If we have a (close to) free and fair election in 2028, the Dems cannot take any chances - they need to run a shoe-in. It has the be an obvious mandate, or it is easier to steal".

This is not a reality tv show. This is reality, and we are on a precipice. People need to pay attention. Respectfully, you are misguided. I do not criticize others on this platform - I offer facts and observations and well considered commentary. I consider it inappropriate to call me judgmental, as a pejorative, just because you don't like my observations.

I don't offer observations without analysis and background, to back it up.

Every Dem needs to bring their A game. Right now we have to focus on the emergency at hand. Bernie and AOC and Chris Murphy and Jamie Raskin and a few others are doing just that. This has to be a team effort.

There is not a beautiful Barbarian Queen on a unicorn who is going to save this party, and our Democracy, and our asses right now.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,304 posts)
48. Biden and Harris and every Dem ever is painted a radical leftist.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:49 PM
Mar 2025

And the leftists know that's bullshit, of course, but the Republican always bite. We need someone to bring in the young vote.

Bettie

(18,591 posts)
16. I love AOC
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 05:49 PM
Mar 2025

she would be a great president. She's smart, she's willing to learn, but, she's still a woman and our country overall hates women far too much for there to ever be a woman as president.

Not in my lifetime anyway and I'm not even 60 yet.

PBC_Democrat

(432 posts)
17. She needs to prove that she can win outside of her safe district
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:10 PM
Mar 2025

Her district is dark blue and she can be a bomb-thrower and worry about any meaningful opposition.

I'll need to see some evidence that she can work with the entire Democratic party and show some leadership.

Once she does that - she'll have matured into an excellent candidate.

Remember, except for the electoral college Sec Clinton won the election. 80,000 votes in different states and her >7 million vote margin would have been plenty. I don't believe that misogyny is a major barrier.

soldierant

(8,743 posts)
18. It isn't too soon for her - but it's way too soon for the country.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:23 PM
Mar 2025

Unfortunately, misogyny rules. Ans at 79 I am SO, SO tried of seeing talented, competent, professional, extraordinary women get sacrificed on the altar of - whatever altar is i that gives democrats thw illusion that this time we can overcome it..

If you keep walking down the same street and keep falling into the same hole, it's time to walk down a different street - preferably one which doesn't have holes.

I hope she will be President some day. But I will not see it. There is a lot of work to be done before it can possibly happen. And considering we are apparently losing the Education Department, that work will be harder than ever to do. It cannot wait until people are grown=ass adults with ingrained biases.

Hekate

(98,596 posts)
26. You and me both, and I'm getting closer to your age every year...
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:04 PM
Mar 2025

We’ve already got DUers tearing down potential candidates who actually stand a chance of winning. All Democrats, by the way.

And what are they proposing instead? A man of almost 90 who has been clear his whole life that he is not a Democrat and that he is above all that, and/or a charismatic young liberal Dem who is both female and brown.

This is a strategy? For what end?

soldierant

(8,743 posts)
72. It's probably a strategy
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:06 PM
Mar 2025

for giving the finger to MAGA. Which is a futile goal because they will not learn a thing from it, and instead will rejoice in drinking liberal tears.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,183 posts)
19. Absolutely not! What value she does have is best used in Congress.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:26 PM
Mar 2025

She's "popular" in a very blue district and when speaking to friendly self-selecting crowds. Her brand could never carry a flat or square or "flyover" state. What plays well in her home district (or even in Vermont) would not win over voters in Peoria. She's adored by those who are furthest left, but there aren't enough of those folks to even give her the nomination, much less to win a national election. I say leave well enough alone and let her "do her thing".

AZProgressive

(29,699 posts)
21. Over 15,000 came out to see her in a swing state
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:39 PM
Mar 2025

It was a very multi-generational and multi-ethnic working class crowd. They also drew over 30,000 in the square state of Colorado and I would say the reason why they are drawing big crowds is because she is a star attraction.

Also she has advantages Mitt Romney wishes he had when he ran.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,183 posts)
22. Self-selecting crowds. Bernie had crowds like that in the past, but he still failed to secure the party's nomination.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:46 PM
Mar 2025
>> Over 15,000 came out to see her in a swing state
That's nice, but crowd size is not an indication of anyone's electability. There were many more who DID NOT show up.

AZProgressive

(29,699 posts)
23. The crowds Bernie is drawing are larger than the crowds he drew when he actually ran for President
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 07:03 PM
Mar 2025

I almost did not show up myself because of parking availability but luckily I was able to find parking. There were many thousands that wanted to go but there wasn't enough room for them or they knew there would be overflow crowds.

His Las Vegas crowd was the largest he ever drew in Nevada and he won that state by a lot. The crowd he drew in Greg Stanton's district was impressive. I have never seen anything like that except for ASU football gamedays.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,183 posts)
24. I have no way to confirm if that's true. Unless he's running again, I do not see the relevance of that comparison.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 07:43 PM
Mar 2025

He won Nevada by "a lot" but still failed to secure the party's nomination. Also, Nevada is a caucus state. He performs poorly in states where the vote is secret and can vote throughout the day rather than only at a certain time. Caucus states are rather disenfranchising to many voters (ie: people who work, or need to arrange child care, or cannot attend the caucus events for obvious reasons.)

AZProgressive

(29,699 posts)
29. There was one point where Bernie Sanders was favored to win all 50 states
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:12 PM
Mar 2025

He won the popular vote in the first 3 states but Biden won South Carolina which was a 3-way race with Steyer but Biden attacked him over his investments in private prisons which helped him win the state and when the party saw he had the best chance of beating Bernie the rest of the party coalesced behind Biden by Super Tuesday. Sanders still won states like California and Colorado on Super Tuesday but I always felt like winning a primary was more difficult than winning a general election because primary voters care about winning rather than policy. In 2020 the exit polls in the first 4 states showed that medicare for all was winning the primary but people preferred Biden because he felt like he had the best chance of beating Trump so I do agree winning the primary is the bigger obstacle.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,183 posts)
33. No he wasn't. The early caucus states were advantageous.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:25 PM
Mar 2025

And that's all. There was no way he was ever going to win the nomination. He failed to do so twice, and there is no reason to believe that he would succeed in a third try.

Nixie

(17,754 posts)
42. California was split because the businessman Bloomberg
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:21 PM
Mar 2025

was in the primary. Biden and Bloomberg combined beat Bernie in California, so his California win was a fluke.

yellow dahlia

(2,613 posts)
37. Exactly. We need to play to peoples' strengths.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:47 PM
Mar 2025

She is great in Congress...and great in committee.

lapucelle

(20,327 posts)
43. A good next step would be to run for and win a Congressional Democratic Caucus-wide secret ballot vote
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:34 PM
Mar 2025

for ranking member or (hopefully in 2026) chair of a committee or subcommittee.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,183 posts)
44. A very reasonable reply, indeed.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:49 PM
Mar 2025

Unfortunately it seems that many enthusiasts want to just skip right to the end and hand over the presidency, as if it's her turn, because she's most like Bernie, or something. I can't see her winning a national race, or even a statewide race outside of her very blue and very friendly district. She's fine where she is.

yellowdogintexas

(23,374 posts)
59. that in fact is the logical first step and that will inevitably happen. The same thing goes for Jasmine Crockett
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 02:03 AM
Mar 2025

and a few other of these young firebrand House members.

It all really depends on her own ambitions. Maybe the Executive branch is not what she wants.

uponit7771

(93,097 posts)
20. Hell no, show she can win a state wide race first ...BIR NO DOUBT she should be DNC face person
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:28 PM
Mar 2025

pinkstarburst

(1,785 posts)
32. Yes. I think 2028
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:22 PM
Mar 2025

will be a change election. I think democrats want to feel like they have a voice. Right now, she and Bernie are resonating because they are fighting back and they are giving people hope.

Meadowoak

(6,537 posts)
36. Nope, unfortunately, in this country, we can't get a woman
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:46 PM
Mar 2025

Elected POTUS. We've tried twice, had excellent candidates both times, all the media could talk about, "was her cackle". Nope, fool me once, it means you can't get fooled again. I'll be voting for a white man, that's the only way we can win.

calguy

(5,937 posts)
80. That's the way I see it, too
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:48 PM
Mar 2025

The two women we ran were more highly qualified than most male candidates, and they were both beaten by the the worst, least-qualified candidate in history, but still, trump eeked out narrow victories both times. What that tells me is that voters don’t want a woman president, no matter how smart she is, and no matter how dumb their opponent was. I’m 74 years old, and I would have hoped that by now the country could accept a female in the White House, but I don’t think it’s even possible in my lifetime.
That is why, no matter how much I might like her, I cannot vote for a woman presidential candidate. Nothing at all against women. It’s a matter of winning and losing.

Bluestocking

(178 posts)
106. A man
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 11:47 AM
Mar 2025

I believe a non white man can win. Obama did it twice. Doesn’t matter what kind of man as long as not a woman. We already know a convicted felon, rapist, pedophile man can be elected twice. Both Harris and Clinton did exceptional in the debates but still lost to a convicted felon, rapist, pedophile man. Women are held to a higher standard and when they meet that standard they still lose. US voters are fucked in the head.

TheProle

(3,519 posts)
38. Many hats in the ring in primary season
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:56 PM
Mar 2025

Stimulates dialogue and exposes voters to a broader range of viewpoints.

If she wants to give it a go, I’m all for it.

Xolodno

(7,084 posts)
41. The GOP will have a field day with her.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:17 PM
Mar 2025

Democratic Socialist - and they will drop the Democratic part out and focus on the S word. Fox and right wing media will whip the fear into everyone and compare her to Lenin and Mao (granted they were communists and not socialists)

Female - Que dog whistle that a woman belongs in the kitchen and should be barefoot and pregnant. Oh and giving their husband breakfast in bed.

Hispanic - Que a ton of dog whistles of racism.

Add to that, she needs to have a state wide race under her belt or have some major role in the House of Rep.

However, I can tell she has bigger aspirations and she should continue on those goals. Once all the GOP Boomers die off, who knows.

Xolodno

(7,084 posts)
65. Don't get me wrong.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 04:32 PM
Mar 2025

I like the idea. Bernie Sanders run in the primaries in the past proves we can go left....if the right things are said. She will be ready eventually. But I don't know about you, I want to make sure we beat the shit out them the next time.

I'm leaning towards Newsom. He knows how to navigate the crazy and as much to the angst of people here about giving air time to right wingers, its a smart move. He's hitting them now, right in their face and pounding them. He won't get that chance during a campaign mode and try to falsely define him. They are afraid of him. I don't think his podcast will last much longer as they will eventually boycott him. They are on there now because they think they can beat him and discovering, they can't. We've had two Republican Governors from California, I think we are overdue for a Democratic one.

Often many here complain we don't take it to the GOP and fight. And then someone does and we complain that we give them air time. Which is it?

Rob H.

(5,685 posts)
46. I'd vote for her
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:09 PM
Mar 2025

but there’s a cohort of Democrats who don’t trust anyone born after the invention of the hula hoop who’d do their level best to ensure she doesn’t get the nomination should she decide to run. And if she says anything even mildly critical of Israel’s policies, her primary opponents would find themselves suddenly buried up to their eyebrows in campaign funds courtesy of AIPAC; there are also Democrats who would have no problem with that.

SSJVegeta

(1,153 posts)
47. It's a tough battle but a necessary one
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:40 PM
Mar 2025

For whoever is willing to take it on. Frankly somebody must

J_William_Ryan

(2,863 posts)
51. What's truly sad and tragic
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 12:53 AM
Mar 2025

is that Democrats can’t nominate for president a woman of color because of the fear, ignorance, racism, bigotry, misogyny, and hate of far too many voters.

DonCoquixote

(13,916 posts)
57. nods
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 01:21 AM
Mar 2025
"because of the fear, ignorance, racism, bigotry, misogyny, and hate of far too many voters."

Many of whom are sadly democrats who should KNOW BETTER
 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
52. AOC Is Great
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 01:00 AM
Mar 2025

But she is too young I think. I would like to see her as the Senator from New York first. She has a long career ahead of her.

synni

(472 posts)
58. I love her, HOWEVER....
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 02:02 AM
Mar 2025

We can't risk losing again because of the inherent sexism and racism in America. Let's run one more white guy, and then run another woman.

proud patriot

(102,143 posts)
60. I voted Pass
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 02:16 AM
Mar 2025

I love AOC , She may be who I support in the primary .

I will wholeheartedly Support who ever wins the Primary .

I have a list of many who I may support in the primary .

I feel AOC needs to go to the Senate .

The Third Doctor

(440 posts)
63. Im afraid not.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:54 AM
Mar 2025

We've had two great female candidates lose against a narcissist clown. This just isn't a progressive or even well informed country.

64. VP perhaps
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 11:38 AM
Mar 2025

She could be a VP candidate for whomever the Dems select for 2028.

We have so many great presidential candidates.

Let's hope we make it that far.

Kaleva

(39,656 posts)
98. Biden ran for much of it.
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 11:09 AM
Mar 2025

He was the presumptive nominee and essentially ran unopposed in the primary

Ars Longa

(203 posts)
73. I put yes to AOC for President, but,
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:09 PM
Mar 2025

due to the crazy-ass misogyny in this country, I kind-of foresee her
as VP or SOTH alternately.

I would LOVE, LOVE to be wrong about that, tho....

uponit7771

(93,097 posts)
77. Same, after hearing her during the big rallies I think she can be a great president but she should win state level first
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:41 PM
Mar 2025

... if Sanders is going to be leader maker she's not a bad choice.

RoeVWade

(566 posts)
79. Let her compete with other candidates when the time comes, and if she can beat them, why not?
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:46 PM
Mar 2025

nt^

Xavier Breath

(5,850 posts)
82. No, but that's entirely due to the racist/misogynistic voters of this country and is no way a reflection on her.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:09 PM
Mar 2025

Besides, she first needs to replace Chuck.

Response to SSJVegeta (Original post)

Turbineguy

(39,140 posts)
101. She would make a wonderful President.
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 11:19 AM
Mar 2025

Like Hilary Clinton and Kamala Harris.

But right now we are going in the opposite direction. Tim Walz is a more realistic candidate.

piddyprints

(14,975 posts)
103. We will not
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 11:20 AM
Mar 2025

Elect a woman president in my lifetime. Did we learn nothing from 2016 and 2024? Even a huge number of women in this country will not vote for a woman president. As much as I like AOC, it’s a risk we can’t afford to take.

Torchlight

(5,147 posts)
104. I'll look at the terrain post mid-terms prior to making any judgement calls
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 11:21 AM
Mar 2025

With Kaptain Kaos wreaking havoc, no one really knows where we'll be in 2026. Meanwhile, the Democrats remain stuck in internal finger-pointing, preventing any real progress. The GOP’s relentless Whack-a-mole attacks on just about every facet of government have left Democratic leadership scattered and reactive, exposing deep party divisions.

However, despite the Democrats' struggles after 2024, opposition to Trump’s policies—such as high tariffs and deep spending cuts (and his general nastiness and cruelty)—is likely to grow.

For now, there's a strong talent pool to choose from, and I see no need to commit to a single candidate just yet.

TBF

(35,169 posts)
108. Voted yes because I love her -
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:30 PM
May 15

but realistically taking Schumer's seat would be enough for now.

There are many who are stronger possibilities right now - think of all the vp candidates there were for Kamala.

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