Second Amendment Scoreboard

[WilliamPitt]

[Dems to Win]

1. Repeal the Second Amendment Now. Sign the petition at whitehouse.gov

No more indulging the deadly illusions of the gun lovers. We demand real action.

[colsohlibgal]

2. 1791

The people who crafted that amendment did it in a world of single shot muskets - how hard is that to grasp?

[Atypical Liberal]

7. And printing presses, too.

Guess the police don't need warrants for wire taps or to search your automobile, right?

[rustydog]

3. You can include the Morther Jones study that shows not one conceal carry civilian

has prevented or stopped a mass shooting incident. More guns is not the answer.

[Atypical Liberal]

6. But nearly all of them are stopped by someone with a gun.

Maybe it hasn't been a civilian yet (it almost was with the mall shooting) but almost universally the shooters give up when people with guns show up.

[awoke_in_2003]

9. I am comforted by the fact...

that this massacre was stopped by someone with a gun- oh, wait he shot himself after killing fucking 26 people.

[Atypical Liberal]

16. Yeah, and when did he shoot himself? Just like all of them - once the police with guns show up.

It has been reported that the shooter killed himself just as the first responders showed up (with guns).

Just like most of these lunatics do, when the police show up, they know they are about to be met with unstoppable force, so they kill themselves.

[Atypical Liberal]

21. Brilliant, sensitive rebuttal.

[WinkyDink]

11. Right-Wingers prefer there to be victims first, don't they?

[Atypical Liberal]

17. I don't understand your question.

Are you talking about the lunatic like the preacher who said this was all because of gay marriage?

[grandpamike1]

14. Yes, but

After the fact, not preventing the act.

[Atypical Liberal]

15. Of course. Police are almost never around when a crime is being committed.

They almost always show up after the fact.

[Trunk Monkey]

10. Some one needs to tell mother Jones about Jeanne Assam NT

[WinkyDink]

12. Well...WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put ONE MARK in the left column. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ruttersville]

22. Completely false - Mark was my cousin, read below to understand

10/1/1997 - Luke Woodham put on a trench coat to conceal a hunting rifle and entered Pearl High School in Pearl, Mississippi. He killed 3 students before vice principal Joel Myrick apprehended him with a handgun without firing a shot.

4/24/1998 - Andrew Wurst attended a middle school dance in Edinboro, Pennsylvania intent on killing a bully, but shot wildly into the crowd. He killed 1 student. James Strand who lived next door he heard the shots and he ran over with his 12 gauge shotgun and apprehended the gunman without firing a shot.

1/16/2002 – Peter Odighizuwa opened fire with a handgun at The Appalachian School in Grundy, Virginia. 3 people were killed before the shooter was apprehended by 3 students armed students Mikael Gross, Ted Besen, and Tracy Bridges.

12/9/2007 – Matthew J. Murray entered the Youth With A Mission training center in Arvada, Colorado and killed 2 people, then went to the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado killing 2 more. He was shot, wounded and stopped by church member Jeanne Assam. He committed suicide before police arrived.



And now the main reason for my response to your inaccurate post.

2/25/2005 – David Hernandez Arroyo Sr. opened fire on a public square from the steps of a courthouse in Tyler, Texas. The shooter was armed with a rifle and wearing body armor. Mirabel Estrada, his ex-wife, was killed at the scene, as was Mark Allen Wilson. Mark drew the shooter’s fire by firing with a handgun, hitting the shooter but not penetrating the armor, and ultimately drove him off, but was fatally wounded.

[spanone]

4. sadly true.

[ellisonz]

5. I'm sure the gun groups are just fine with that...

...you never know when you might have to go back in time to finish off Hitler!

[adieu]

8. Completely agree

With the cartoon. The second amendment has failed to do what its proponents have claimed it would do.

By the way, it's not as though I think our government is so rosy and nice. I think our government stinks to high heaven with all the corruption and lack of empathy for the regular citizen. The government has encroached everywhere with its desire to take away civil liberties, but I haven't seen a single gunman brave enough to march down to Washington to defend his right to not be surveilled 24/7.

These pro-2nd amendment folks aren't even remotely trying to make the government listen to them. They have zero effect on maintaining freedom and liberty.

But, they love their guns.

[femrap]

13. Anyone looking at

the First Amendment!!!????

#!

[Rex]

20. That is a strange thing to hear from a new conference.

How are they going to issue warrants to websites and blogs? There is bullshit all over the internets...I don't understand why they focus on that and not the root cause.

[ancianita]

18. They don't protect anybody from anything. EVER. They're too cowardly.

When they see their fellow citizens getting beaten up, maced and dragged off to jail for exercising their constitutional right to protest injustice to this society, do they run out with their guns to protect these people from the gubmint? Hell, no. They don't protect anybody from anything. EVER. They're too cowardly. They just want to own guns for the illusion of power they get from it. Period.

[ellisonz]

23. Kick