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madaboutharry

(41,973 posts)
Sun May 4, 2025, 07:52 PM May 4

This is a serious post.

I think, in my not a mental health expert opinion, that Trump is having a mental breakdown.

The posts today about reopening Alcatraz and placing a 100% tariff on foreign made movies on the basis that they are propaganda and a national security threat, speak for themselves. He has descended into an abyss of paranoia. He is flailing in the face of diminishing poll numbers, the tariffs causing chaos to the global economy, and the courts not bending to his will.

I think that this is beyond trolling, as if trolling was ever normal behavior for an American president.

I think the true breaking point will be a public meltdown where we witness in real time Trump mentally collapsing and being strapped to a gurney and spirted away in an ambulance.

The American people have witnessed public breakdowns in recent years. We will know what it looks like.

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This is a serious post. (Original Post) madaboutharry May 4 OP
From your lips to God's ears The Blue Flower May 4 #1
Two words BonnieJW May 4 #24
I have reached the conclusion that Vance would be an improvement. TomSlick May 4 #29
They both must go. Presuming there are midterms we'll have the Senate and Hakim will be Speaker so .... Marcuse May 4 #32
A Democratic Senate Majority is unlikely. maxsolomon May 5 #82
He doesn't have the slob appeal that King Slobby has. usonian May 4 #35
From your keyboard to God's screen. calimary May 5 #92
So, in other words, anything would be better than Trump. Intractable May 4 #37
I'm sure there is someone out there in the current GOP that would be worse than Trump. TomSlick May 4 #53
Vance has the Linda ladeewolf May 4 #41
Exactly. The MAGA base will not follow Vance. TomSlick May 4 #54
even more importantly in my opinion, barbtries May 5 #96
Exactly. TomSlick May 5 #99
the nurses all gathered round. they said leave this one alone Tetrachloride May 4 #30
One word wnylib May 5 #88
4 more...Vice President Stephan Miller... MiHale May 6 #101
I Agree.......... RSH May 4 #50
May we see it tomorrow !!!! #InvestigateTrump #ImpeachTrump. #LockUpTrump Trueblue1968 May 4 #52
IDK..been hearing of his mental demise for years now and I can't see any difference Deuxcents May 4 #2
Agree republianmushroom May 4 #11
Yep. His unhinged babbling is worse only because e ev Dark n Stormy Knight May 5 #59
Yep, he rarely comes up with these ideas on his own Bev54 May 5 #75
i agree with you mokeyz May 5 #87
It's like he's throwing these ridiculous ideas out for the shock value. greatauntoftriplets May 4 #3
Yes, a new outrage every day Beck23 May 5 #98
honestly, how would we fucking even tell Skittles May 4 #4
bats may sue for defamation *nt* DoBW May 4 #22
yeah OK Skittles May 4 #23
His brain has been rotting since early adolescence..... lastlib May 4 #57
I think he's just having difficulty bucolic_frolic May 4 #5
This! FailureToCommunicate May 4 #6
Susie Wiles is the Putin/Russian connection. kerry-is-my-prez May 4 #18
Krasnov Iamscrewed May 4 #7
I think Trump is suffering from "Long Covid" Pototan May 4 #8
Interesting thought... Wiz Imp May 4 #10
Maybe I missed it? I don't see anything about the life saving treatment he received Meowmee May 4 #13
You are correct about the symptoms Pototan May 4 #28
I still see no link there or anywhere between that treatment and long covid Meowmee May 4 #31
From link Pototan May 4 #43
Those are simply a list of the symptoms which I am already aware of...I have it Meowmee May 4 #46
I never said that the treatment causes long covid Pototan May 4 #48
Perhaps you didn't mean that but your first statement suggests it 😁 Meowmee May 4 #49
If you read my reply #28 Pototan May 4 #56
Please correct your original post. It is extremely misleading. RockCreek May 5 #60
More likely tertiary syphillis. Pacifist Patriot May 5 #84
The non existent guardrails are on full display. cachukis May 4 #9
Probably Narcissistic Collapse...again chowder66 May 4 #12
I wish he'd hurry up and get to the social withdrawal stage. 2MuchNoise May 4 #19
I wish he'd get to the very last one. 58Sunliner May 5 #70
That'll work. 2MuchNoise May 6 #100
It seems more like this than long covid. fierywoman May 4 #33
"... Social withdrawal Self-harm and suicide attempts..." Make it so and the soonest the better. Texin May 5 #78
I don't see it happening, but wake me up when he is gone, and I mean for good! Meowmee May 4 #14
To me, it's serious that Gordcanuck May 4 #15
Excuse me... madaboutharry May 4 #40
Basically Trump already has Narcissism now he's got dementia. kerry-is-my-prez May 4 #16
He is deadly serious Cirsium May 4 #17
Unless they can do the 25th Amendment. kerry-is-my-prez May 4 #20
Trump's cabinet? Cirsium May 4 #21
Trump brains Historic NY May 4 #25
Is he dead yet? WestMichRad May 4 #26
"...Trump is having a mental breakdown." LudwigPastorius May 4 #27
open unconstitutional clap trap out his asshead. pansypoo53219 May 4 #34
I hope you are right, perhaps just a bit more pressure!? 😈 Linda ladeewolf May 4 #36
It can't come soon enough. Joinfortmill May 4 #38
The pope thing was pretty crazy Renew Deal May 4 #39
He can't take a break either. underpants May 4 #42
He's "flooding the zone" with bullshit and these latest activities are more of it AStern May 4 #44
Agree completely Grim Chieftain May 4 #45
What's equally disturbing is JD Vance tuning up his banjo in the wings..... Blue Owl May 4 #47
That doomed character portrayed by Ronny Cox, an Appalachian Elegy. John1956PA May 4 #55
Yes he is losing it biggly. kimbutgar May 4 #51
His behavior is that of a person in mental health crisis blubunyip May 5 #58
i think they will invoke 25a. it's face saving, and easier than impeachment. mopinko May 5 #61
You make many great points. madaboutharry May 5 #63
well mopinko May 5 #65
That's true. madaboutharry May 5 #66
i mean, in some ways there is no bottom mopinko May 5 #67
He should follow that with a cardiac breakdown Orrex May 5 #62
don't think it... know it!!! Peacetrain May 5 #64
Abyss of paranoia SpankMe May 5 #68
gawdess I hope cilla4progress May 5 #69
We all know he isn't going to get better. 58Sunliner May 5 #71
I disagree, I think he and his handlers know what he is doing. And because after 100-days with very little Hotler May 5 #72
I hope the only reason he is strapped to the gurney is so his corpse won't roll off during transport. ECL213 May 5 #73
What are the chances of a stroke? CaptainTruth May 5 #74
trump is a very sick person LetMyPeopleVote May 5 #76
Can't wait for him to assume room temperature bif May 5 #77
Why can't he have a public meltdown Freddie May 5 #79
Trump is showing the same signs of dementia his father started to show at his age before it seriously progressed. LetMyPeopleVote May 5 #80
I live for this moment malaise May 5 #81
How is it possible to tell if Trump is having a mental breakdown? elocs May 5 #83
Good question, since he's acted insane for ages. I assume it's where he starts talking in pure indecipherable gibberish, LymphocyteLover May 5 #85
What we're seeing may be normal behavior for a psychopath..... KY_EnviroGuy May 5 #97
He's honestly just an idiot who thinks he's the smartest person ever. Oneironaut May 5 #86
If any Paramedic witnessed a patient DENVERPOPS May 5 #89
By nature The Wizard May 5 #90
Much of it is dementia-incuced. ananda May 5 #91
Dementia equals tariffs on uninhabited islands Number9Dream May 5 #93
George Conway does not think that trump will finish even one year of his term LetMyPeopleVote May 5 #94
Who's going to step in? Family, friends, GOP? I don't see anyone at present. Intervention needed. n/t Evolve Dammit May 5 #95
The maga idiots have to pretend that trump is not crazy LetMyPeopleVote May 6 #102
Dementia Don LetMyPeopleVote May 6 #103
Here are some pictures from today's meeting with the Canadian Prime Minister LetMyPeopleVote May 6 #104

TomSlick

(12,623 posts)
29. I have reached the conclusion that Vance would be an improvement.
Sun May 4, 2025, 09:58 PM
May 4

Vance is marginally more nearly sane.

He would want to be re-elected and more responsive to public opinion.

Marcuse

(8,571 posts)
32. They both must go. Presuming there are midterms we'll have the Senate and Hakim will be Speaker so ....
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:08 PM
May 4

maxsolomon

(36,978 posts)
82. A Democratic Senate Majority is unlikely.
Mon May 5, 2025, 01:56 PM
May 5

It would make sense for the House to shift, however.

usonian

(19,363 posts)
35. He doesn't have the slob appeal that King Slobby has.
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:12 PM
May 4

They will both step on a metaphorical third rail soon. 🦈. 🔋

TomSlick

(12,623 posts)
53. I'm sure there is someone out there in the current GOP that would be worse than Trump.
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:53 PM
May 4

However, they are not racing to mind.

Only Trump seems to have the blind support of the MAGA base. It is very much a cult. If the cult leader goes away, the cult should whither and die.

Linda ladeewolf

(975 posts)
41. Vance has the
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:17 PM
May 4

Personality of an oil slick in the rain, though not as colorful. And the base already hates him.

barbtries

(30,614 posts)
96. even more importantly in my opinion,
Mon May 5, 2025, 05:24 PM
May 5

he doesn't have a cult. people don't like that dude. Don't ask me why so many worship krasnov, I'll never understand it, but it is that cult that is keeping some otherwise sane republicans from doing the right thing.

MiHale

(11,966 posts)
101. 4 more...Vice President Stephan Miller...
Tue May 6, 2025, 09:53 AM
May 6

Then Vance is discarded and the horror show takes another devious turn.

RSH

(12 posts)
50. I Agree..........
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:44 PM
May 4

And the result of years of cocaine/adderall use and abuse. He's spinning out and fried!!!

Deuxcents

(23,263 posts)
2. IDK..been hearing of his mental demise for years now and I can't see any difference
Sun May 4, 2025, 08:00 PM
May 4

What I do see this time is more cruel and dangerous executive orders coming from him because of the different people he has advising him. They’re more daring and unconstitutional but he keeps putting them out there to see what he can get away with. I will say he’s a sick, shallow, little pos

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,414 posts)
59. Yep. His unhinged babbling is worse only because e ev
Mon May 5, 2025, 01:20 AM
May 5

he's been given to understand that nothing he says or does will cause the MAGAts in or out of Congress, nor most of the media, to reject him.

Bev54

(12,690 posts)
75. Yep, he rarely comes up with these ideas on his own
Mon May 5, 2025, 12:23 PM
May 5

Somebody will say something and he picks up what he wants to hear and runs with it, like it is his own idea. It was Jon Voight that came up with the idea to put tariffs on film industry. Someone could have jokingly say something about opening Alcatraz and he would pick it up and run with it without any credible information on the costs or reality of it.

mokeyz

(77 posts)
87. i agree with you
Mon May 5, 2025, 02:41 PM
May 5

he is just a worse version of who he has always been - just that he is in charge of everything now with no one to rein him in. Every crazy thought he has ever had he is trying to do while behind the scenes the evil ones are doing the real destruction of the US - scary times.

greatauntoftriplets

(178,001 posts)
3. It's like he's throwing these ridiculous ideas out for the shock value.
Sun May 4, 2025, 08:03 PM
May 4

Whatever he's doing, it's not governing.

Skittles

(166,335 posts)
23. yeah OK
Sun May 4, 2025, 09:35 PM
May 4

he has been, er, displaying signs of mental deterioration for some fucking time now

lastlib

(26,375 posts)
57. His brain has been rotting since early adolescence.....
Sun May 4, 2025, 11:23 PM
May 4

.....maybe longer. (I suppose it started when the mashed potatoes hit him, bu it could've been earlier--who knows for sure?) The frontal temporal lobe of the cerebral cortex has turned to powder, and all that's left functioning is the reptilian emotional centers.

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,095 posts)
18. Susie Wiles is the Putin/Russian connection.
Sun May 4, 2025, 09:21 PM
May 4
https://bylinetimes.com/2024/11/12/lobbyists-oligarchs-and-power-the-pro-putin-network-raising-fears-of-foreign-influence-in-trumps-team/

Trump’s newly appointed Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, brings a complex political profile, with ties to Russian oligarchs and Chinese surveillance firms.
Before joining Trump’s 2024 campaign, Wiles was a co-chair at a firm that lobbied for sanctioned individuals and companies. A lobbyist who recommended Wiles to lead US President-Elect Donald Trump’s campaign represented a Russian-born oligarch connected to the Russian President Vladimir Putin and a state-owned oil corporation Rosneft.
Wiles’ ex-husband has ties to a Kremlin-linked lobbyist known for attending the 2016 TrumpTower meeting, where “dirt” on Clinton was offered on the Russian Government’s behalf. Wiles’ daughter failed the White House background check.
Examining her lobbying work and personal connections reveals the scale and reach of foreign affiliations, raising concerns over potential foreign influence within Trump’s incoming administration.

-snip-

Pototan

(2,758 posts)
8. I think Trump is suffering from "Long Covid"
Sun May 4, 2025, 08:46 PM
May 4

If you read about the side effects of the experimental treatment necessary to save his life from contracting Covid 19 in 2020, he has all the symptoms,

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
13. Maybe I missed it? I don't see anything about the life saving treatment he received
Sun May 4, 2025, 09:06 PM
May 4

causing long covid symptoms for anyone... some patients with severe long covid have been helped with monoclonal antibody treatments.

https://altea-network.com/en/stories/206-monoclonal-antibodies

Pototan

(2,758 posts)
28. You are correct about the symptoms
Sun May 4, 2025, 09:56 PM
May 4

the treatment of monoclonal and its side effects are more physical than psychological.

However, the severity of Trump's covid in 2020 most likely resulted is "long Coved" and its side effects.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
31. I still see no link there or anywhere between that treatment and long covid
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:07 PM
May 4

Any personality or brain effects are usually also "physical" especially when severe. The brain was one area affected by covid in some people. I don't think what is going on with psycho is from covid however.

Pototan

(2,758 posts)
43. From link
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:18 PM
May 4

Symptoms of long COVID
The most common symptoms of long COVID are:

I have highlighted in bold those symptoms that Trump exhibits.

extreme tiredness (fatigue)
feeling short of breath
problems with your memory and concentration ("brain fog&quot
heart palpitations
dizziness
joint pain and muscle aches

However, there are lots of symptoms you can have after a COVID-19 infection, including:

loss of smell
chest pain or tightness
difficulty sleeping (insomnia)
pins and needles
depression and anxiety
tinnitus, earaches
feeling sick, diarrhoea, stomach aches, loss of appetite
cough, headaches, sore throat, changes to sense of smell or taste
rashes

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
46. Those are simply a list of the symptoms which I am already aware of...I have it
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:29 PM
May 4

There is so far no evidence that monoclonal antibody treatments cause long covid.

Pototan

(2,758 posts)
48. I never said that the treatment causes long covid
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:39 PM
May 4

The treatment has its own side effects, which are mostly physical. Long covid, with or without the monoclonal treatment, has its own side effects, which include some psychological symptoms.

These symptoms may allow the average person to live a normal life, but the long covid symptoms on an already psychologically damaged person with the responsibilities of the President of the United States may be a bit overwhelming.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
49. Perhaps you didn't mean that but your first statement suggests it 😁
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:42 PM
May 4

Last edited Mon May 5, 2025, 09:37 PM - Edit history (1)

"If you read about the side effects of the experimental treatment necessary to save his life from contracting Covid 19 in 2020, he has all the symptoms,"

I don't think he has long covid tbh.

cachukis

(3,336 posts)
9. The non existent guardrails are on full display.
Sun May 4, 2025, 08:51 PM
May 4

He is beyond the props.
Where are the white coats?

chowder66

(11,016 posts)
12. Probably Narcissistic Collapse...again
Sun May 4, 2025, 09:05 PM
May 4

Signs of narcissistic collapse can include:

Hostility and criticism toward others
Narcissistic rage, often involving an outburst of anger and aggression
Irritability and agitation
Accusing others to displace blame and responsibility
Gaslighting others to distort or distract from reality
Passive-aggressive behaviors, such as purposefully ignoring others or making sarcastic and hurtful remarks
Vindictive behaviors, such as telling lies or negative ideas about others to damage their reputation
Impulsive and reckless behaviors, such as gambling, excessive drug or alcohol use, or driving under the influence
Extreme stress and anxiety
Depression
Social withdrawal
Self-harm and suicide attempts

https://www.mentalhealth.com/library/narcissistic-collapse

Texin

(2,778 posts)
78. "... Social withdrawal Self-harm and suicide attempts..." Make it so and the soonest the better.
Mon May 5, 2025, 01:10 PM
May 5

Gordcanuck

(122 posts)
15. To me, it's serious that
Sun May 4, 2025, 09:10 PM
May 4

you are chattering about mental illness, not what’s really dangerous to your country. Loony or not, he is hell-bent on destruction so must be sent to the showers asap. Don’t squabble over the mechanism, just get’er done before he gets you.

madaboutharry

(41,973 posts)
40. Excuse me...
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:16 PM
May 4

I discuss the danger he poses to this country all the time. Having a mentally ill man serving as president is a danger. That is obvious.

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,095 posts)
16. Basically Trump already has Narcissism now he's got dementia.
Sun May 4, 2025, 09:14 PM
May 4

I have a Masters in Social work, work in the psych field and agree with you. I also think he has Borderline Personality disorder (you can have more than one personality disorder) due to his penchant for getting revenge.

And yes, some of the most dangerous people out there have personality disorders (Sociopathic Personality Disorders are common among criminals) and they are listed as psychiatric disorders in the diagnostic manual. Talk to anyone who works in the field and they will tell you that the biggest headaches are caused by patients with personality disorders. It is now thought that they have a genetic component.


The DSM-5 outlines specific criteria for diagnosing Borderline
Personality Disorder. These are:
A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects,
and marked impulsivity, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of
contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1. Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. (Note: Do not include
suicidal or self-mutilating behaviour covered in Criterion 5.)
2. A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by
alternating between extremes of idealisation and devaluation.
3. Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
4. Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending,
sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). (Note: Do not include suicidal
or self-mutilating behaviour covered in Criterion 5.)
5. Recurrent suicidal behaviour, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behaviour.
6. Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic
dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more
than a few days).
7. Chronic feelings of emptiness.
8. Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of
temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
9. Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms.

https://headspace.org.au/assets/Uploads/Resource-library/Health-professionals/Clinical-Toolkit/CT-Criteria-for-Diag-BPD.pdf

Cirsium

(2,758 posts)
17. He is deadly serious
Sun May 4, 2025, 09:19 PM
May 4

Last edited Mon May 5, 2025, 12:50 PM - Edit history (1)

It is a mistake to think he is having a mental breakdown.

He is not flailing. He is constantly testing the boundaries, sending up "trial balloons," seeing what he can get away with saying and doing. He is very dangerous and he has been very successful at destroying the country and at garnering a massive amount of attention and power. He has been on every news outlet every day for almost a decade.

Do not underestimate the threat. Do not expect him to "melt down" nor to "lose it."

Psychoanalyzing Adolph Hitler in the 30's would not have done anyone any good, and psychoanalyzing Trump now won't, either

LudwigPastorius

(13,031 posts)
27. "...Trump is having a mental breakdown."
Sun May 4, 2025, 09:55 PM
May 4

Can something that is already broken subsequently break down?

Joinfortmill

(18,665 posts)
38. It can't come soon enough.
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:15 PM
May 4

Even with that, I don't know how we get out of this mess without some Republicans in Congress acting to defend our Democracy.

Renew Deal

(84,319 posts)
39. The pope thing was pretty crazy
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:15 PM
May 4

Makes him seem like an unserious person. It has little useful political value but it does show delusions of grandeur.

underpants

(191,721 posts)
42. He can't take a break either.
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:18 PM
May 4

The only places where he can be out of sight is AT The White House or Camp David. He’s hates both of those places too.

I know his ego won’t let him not be the center of attention. I know his wallet won’t let him not go to his own properties and bilk us.

I do think he’s working or at least being at work more than the first term. No “Executive Tine” as far as I know. He basically holds court in the Oval Office.

AStern

(464 posts)
44. He's "flooding the zone" with bullshit and these latest activities are more of it
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:21 PM
May 4

He's an obnoxious troll.

Grim Chieftain

(440 posts)
45. Agree completely
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:29 PM
May 4

He has always been unstable, but with advanced age it is getting worse. It's not about Uncle Donnie getting a bit off in his later years, it's about the freaking president of the United States losing his mental facilities! He makes decisions, he proposes policies, he meets with heads of state. This is a crisis that cannot be ignored or pushed under the carpet. It's beyond Republican vs. Democrat, it is about the security and welfare of our country.

kimbutgar

(25,662 posts)
51. Yes he is losing it biggly.
Sun May 4, 2025, 10:46 PM
May 4

Demented grandpa who is really so far gone. Good thing he doesn’t drive!

And I can’t wait for the final ending meltdown when his cult members realize he is insane and become afraid of his actions.

blubunyip

(243 posts)
58. His behavior is that of a person in mental health crisis
Mon May 5, 2025, 12:04 AM
May 5

--no question about that. A public meltdown is probably more likely than use of the 25th amendment to remove him, tho that constitutional procedure being supported by congress would be the absolute best thing for the country.

At the same time, we should remember that there are multiple henchmen constantly feeding him extremist talking points and bizarre notions. We're up against a dangerous mafia-style syndicate. Not just this one psycho.

mopinko

(72,819 posts)
61. i think they will invoke 25a. it's face saving, and easier than impeachment.
Mon May 5, 2025, 08:41 AM
May 5

and personally, i think it’s more important for the future for us to recognize that he’s a mad man.
i mean, we know he’s a criminal, and we elected him anyway. ppl dont recognize megalomania when it’s on our teevee all day. nor do they recognize other brain disorders. that’s a very, very bad thing.
the contrast to supposedly brain damaged joe will b revisited. and maybe some eyes open.
and his brain damage will b debated then, and forever.

i’ve said this b4- when he dies, i want an autopsy, and i want to see pics of his congealed brain on my teevee and the front page of newspapers. the proof that his brain is broken is there, all over his records at reed that they r lying profusely about, or just burying.
maybe it will come out if they do remove him, but hopefully once he’s gone, the truth will not b contained any more.

madaboutharry

(41,973 posts)
63. You make many great points.
Mon May 5, 2025, 09:55 AM
May 5

Republicans are beating a drum with accusations that people around Biden were covering for him.

That is projection.

The real cover-up is what is going on right now and a concerted effort by many to conceal from the public Trump’s neurological deterioration and his mental decline.

But I’m not so sure they will bother with invoking the 25A. I’m not so sure if they even care if the president is stark raving mad.

All that matters to these people is power and money. Nothing else has any value to them, including democracy.

mopinko

(72,819 posts)
65. well
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:11 AM
May 5

at some point THEIR money and power will b threatened, and the worm WILL turn.
i’m still shocked that they have handed over the power they worked so hard to amass. the founders counted on ppl not doing that.

we’ve heard stories since his 1st term about what r electeds say behind closed doors. at some point, their ox will b gored. and remember- red states ESPECIALLY rely on fed dollars. defense contractors spread their production around for that reason. i dont expect them to touch the pentagon, despite that being where the majority of the ‘waste, fraud and abuse’ r to b found.
but when they start to see the brain drain and the money evaporate as they target universities and research centers, a few will wake up.

madaboutharry

(41,973 posts)
66. That's true.
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:19 AM
May 5

It will take these people experiencing suffering themselves for them to stop this insanity. Because the only people they care about is themselves!

I keep asking myself “Where is the bottom? Is there a breaking point? Is there even a rubicon to pass, somewhere?” 😢

mopinko

(72,819 posts)
67. i mean, in some ways there is no bottom
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:51 AM
May 5

for the majority of that party. depressing af, but true.
but it will only take a handful. i wonder how many in that party have spouses/family that r immigrants.

SpankMe

(3,539 posts)
68. Abyss of paranoia
Mon May 5, 2025, 11:27 AM
May 5

It ain't just Trump. The whole team of MAGA cons that the gov't has been seeded with are making these decisions.

Hotler

(13,364 posts)
72. I disagree, I think he and his handlers know what he is doing. And because after 100-days with very little
Mon May 5, 2025, 11:46 AM
May 5

resistance the fascist are turning up the asshole dial all they way. Remember, the orange convict is a reflection of his voters.

ECL213

(391 posts)
73. I hope the only reason he is strapped to the gurney is so his corpse won't roll off during transport.
Mon May 5, 2025, 11:50 AM
May 5

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,964 posts)
80. Trump is showing the same signs of dementia his father started to show at his age before it seriously progressed.
Mon May 5, 2025, 01:51 PM
May 5
 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
83. How is it possible to tell if Trump is having a mental breakdown?
Mon May 5, 2025, 02:13 PM
May 5

77.2 million Americans voted for him, preferred him over Harris. And they live among us who didn't.

LymphocyteLover

(8,410 posts)
85. Good question, since he's acted insane for ages. I assume it's where he starts talking in pure indecipherable gibberish,
Mon May 5, 2025, 02:33 PM
May 5

far more incoherent than the gibberish he normally speaks. I can't wait for him to finally collapse in some way. god, we are due for a break.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,731 posts)
97. What we're seeing may be normal behavior for a psychopath.....
Mon May 5, 2025, 06:05 PM
May 5

and many mental health professionals believe he is one, along with being a hard-core narcissist.

This term, he has a different group of enablers along with a manifesto (Proj. 2025), along with the knowledge this is his last term. So, if they're going to burn it all down, it could be their last chance for decades. From what I've read, these circumstances can drive a psychopath to do some very radical and destructive.things.

In a normal, sane world, serous efforts to remove him would be well under way by now. However, we know what happened to those efforts during the last term......

Oneironaut

(6,088 posts)
86. He's honestly just an idiot who thinks he's the smartest person ever.
Mon May 5, 2025, 02:36 PM
May 5

I don’t think Trump can have a break down. He thinks he’s god-like to the point of full delusion.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
89. If any Paramedic witnessed a patient
Mon May 5, 2025, 04:10 PM
May 5

spewing this inane, delusional rhetoric, they would immediately ask a police officer or MD to put a 72 hour psychiatric hold on the patient.

even if the Repubs in congress voted to do the 25th amendment, he would still remain in power for 30? days...
No one knows what insanity he would release knowing he was at the end of the line with his Tyranny.......

ananda

(32,659 posts)
91. Much of it is dementia-incuced.
Mon May 5, 2025, 04:20 PM
May 5

He just gets random ideas and blathers them
into policy in the craziest way.

Number9Dream

(1,809 posts)
93. Dementia equals tariffs on uninhabited islands
Mon May 5, 2025, 04:47 PM
May 5

If Pres. Biden had put tariffs on uninhabited islands the media would have screamed "dementia"!

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,964 posts)
94. George Conway does not think that trump will finish even one year of his term
Mon May 5, 2025, 05:00 PM
May 5


To the Newark Star-Ledger: No, I meant 1/20/26, the end of the first year of his term. It’s hard to see how he could make it to 2028, and his term ends in 2029 anyway.

Evolve Dammit

(21,108 posts)
95. Who's going to step in? Family, friends, GOP? I don't see anyone at present. Intervention needed. n/t
Mon May 5, 2025, 05:16 PM
May 5
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